Hypothetical - Was the plan to declare martial law after the VP,

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Star Member malaise (223,215 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214938489

Hypothetical - Was the plan to declare martial law after the VP,
the Speaker and others had been assassinated by his goons?

And then what?

 

Even CNN had to backtrack and say there was no such things as 'VAST RIGHT WING KILL TEAMS' invading the congress building...

CNN Forced To Walk Back Story That Rioters At U.S. Capitol Building Were Specifically There To Kill Politicians…

https://www.weaselzippers.us/462697-cnn-forced-to-walk-back-story-that-rioters-at-u-s-capitol-building-were-specifically-there-to-kill-politicians/

Justice Department prosecutors have formally walked back their assertion in a court filing that said Capitol rioters sought to “capture and assassinate elected officials.”

RocRizzo55 (168 posts)

1. I am certain that was it.

Then he could cancel the inauguration, and declare himself king.

Star Member Dustlawyer (9,594 posts)

48. That is why they wanted their boys in Congress to slow things down, to give

the insurgents time to get there and get inside.

Star Member WheelWalker (7,775 posts)

2. That's what I be thinking.

Star Member Kid Berwyn (4,769 posts)

3. GOP survivors lead the remains of Congress to pass new law...

...“enabling” martial law and giving Dump unlimited power.

Heil Bannon. Thanks, Putin.

FreepFryer (5,507 posts)

4. Yup. And a Capitol siege itself could have been reason enough if they'd successfully gotten the #s..

The Hail Mary endzone pass, with Proud Boys clearing and modeling behavior for the crowd, had a fraction of the crowd they really needed and wanted (1m was their propaganda wet dream) but it almost worked.

Star Member lark (17,346 posts)

49. This seems to be exactly what would have happened if the left had shown up to counter protest.

That was what drumpf was counting on, a total war on the streets and Pence, Pelosi taken out, martial law, overturn the election - dictator for life. Luckily none of that happened and drumpf and repugs are being exposed for the murderous insurrectionists that they are.

wnylib (4,745 posts)

59. All they needed was their "special forces" militia

crew that came with protective armor, weapons, rappeling gear and knowledge of the locations of key offices. They missed their goal by a mere minute. One minute after Pence was hidden in a room by the SS, the mob broke into the Capitol. Thanks to the ones among the Capitol police who did not turn traitor and held off the mob as long as they could, and to one specific cop who led the mob astray, the SS had time to hide Pence and move Pelosi to a safe location. The rest of Congress and their staff and guests had time to hide behind barricaded doors. All with jyst one minute to spare.

Maybe there were too many people in the mob, making it hard for the specially trained crew to get through totheir destinations.

If not for that minute, the terrorists might have found their targets and zip tied them for execution. Afterward, a bloodbath killing of Dems, followed by Trump declaring martial law and himself the sole "president, for life.

 

LPBBEAR (80 posts)

8. Yes

That's exactly what I believe was the plan all along. Trump was going to sit on his fat ass watching the chaos on TV. Wait until Pelosi and Pence were assassinated and then ride in on his White (Power) Charger and declare Martial Law.

He still might try it.

Star Member N_E_1 for Tennis (5,119 posts)

9. Until that bastard is completely out...

of the White House, flown away somewhere out of D.C. ...IMO, nothing is off the table.

Not the time to let the guard down. I wouldn’t put it past them to try something then declare martial law “to protect the country”.

It’s not over till it’s over.

Star Member onenote (35,523 posts)

12. As explained here previously, even what your suggesting would not allow martial law to be imposed

Trump might have tried, but he wouldn't be able to pull it off.

Folks have a misunderstanding of what martial law is an when it can be imposed:

The Supreme Court long ago explained what martial law is and the limits of its implementation under the Constitution:

Ex parte Milligan, 71 U.S. (4 Wall.) 2 (1866)

"If, in foreign invasion or civil war, the courts are actually closed, and it is impossible to administer criminal justice according to law, then, on the theatre of active military operations, where war really prevails, there is a necessity to furnish a substitute for the civil authority, thus overthrown, to preserve the safety of the army and society; and as no power is left but the military, it is allowed to govern by martial rule until the laws can have their free course. As necessity creates the rule, so it limits its duration; for, if this government is continued after the courts are reinstated, it is a gross usurpation of power. Martial rule can never exist where the courts are open, and in the proper and unobstructed exercise of their jurisdiction. It is also confined to the locality of actual war."

bucolic_frolic (22,247 posts)

16. The plan was chaos and go with the feeling!

After martial law, plunder! All laws suspended. Target assets - physical US government assets, the financial system. The stooges he installed as heads of agencies everywhere would be invaluable. Treasury plunder, and its control of banks and investment banks.

But the planning was poor, opportunistic, the operatives misfits of society and even their professions. This was the $1.98 Insurrection.

Of more concern today is the next rendition. I think there's a high probability of martial Pillow Guy law before Thursday. I don't know what that is.

I'm calling the Expected Coup. Is there a bookie taking bets? I need to get in on the action.

Star Member exboyfil (15,296 posts)

23. This showed our fatal flaw in the Constitution

That damn unlimited pardon power along with the insanely slow impeachment process (not to mention you only need 35 senators to go along with Presidential abuse of power). This means 18 states could effectively hold the country hostage.

Captain Zero (2,746 posts)

20. POMPEO was in on it. Always lurking high

In the chain of succession. It's no mistake his move from Defense to State moved him up two spots.

Star Member marble falls (35,716 posts)

29. Pence was meant to be 'Horst Wessel' for the Trumpzies, and the Capital to be their Reichstag ...

... fire, thought so since the 6th.

And most importantly, his pretext for martial law.

Bernardo de La Paz (36,708 posts)

34. Nah, not assassination. They expected "antifa/blm" to show up, make trouble, start a huge DC race ri


... start a huge DC wide "race riot" with (they hope, expected) lots of looting. Then bring in martial law "because democracy is at risk from lawless mobs". Oops. Backfired bigtime.

It goes along with talk beforehand how "antifa/blm" were going to show up dressed as patriots and do a false flag operation. Right on cue, the whackos are claiming this was a false flag and saying, as they always do, "Trump supporters would never do things like that. We're all nice people!"

But everything they and their cult leader do is so amateurish. Plus they are so far into fantasy land and desperation at that point that they grasped at straws.

Loubee (155 posts)

41. It seems obvious at this point and

I hope the FBI zeroes in on witnesses to these conversations and turns them. This is a crime too heinous and consequential to overlook for the sake of avoiding the wrath of his vengeful followers.

The entire line the prosecutors want to omit from their court filing is: "Strong evidence, including Chansley's own words and actions at the Capitol, supports that the intent of the Capitol rioters was to capture and assassinate elected officials in the United States Government."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/15/politics/capitol-capture-assassinate-elected-officials/index.html?utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2021-01-15T22%3A53%3A05&utm_medium=social&utm_term=image

The stunning move comes a few hours after the Michael Sherwin, the acting US attorney in Washington, DC, said at a press conference there was "no direct evidence of kill and capture teams" at this time in the siege of the Capitol building.

 

Jon King (334 posts)

55. Yes, the plan was to kill....

Thats why Trump did nothing and Pence later approved the national guard. The plan was to kill all the government they could then declare martial law. He does not think far ahead so what he would have tried next is unclear. Likely new elections run by his hand picked federal law enforcement and state legislatures.

Anyone who knows Trump absolutely knows this was what he would have done. I guarantee he is seething as he learn how close they came to success.

Something has Trump scared of prison and desperate, likely NY State charges.

 

[DUmpDiver]

As usual, the DUmmies are fixated on martial law. 

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

As usual, the DUmmies are fixated on martial law.

Because that is what they want to do THEMSELVES.

It's not like they can beat us in free and open debate.

[thundley4]

Damn, the DUmmies almost had it figured out. Those rumors about Iran attacking DC a couple of weeks ago were planted for a reason.

A friend of a friend of my 3rd cousin twice removed told me about the plan.

    Trump is flying out aboard Air Force One before the inauguration. He will be in the air when Biden is sworn in. Air Force One will change it's call sign. Iran carries out its planned attack on DC. Biden, Harris and Pelosi are all gone. That leaves Trump still aboard the former AF1, which is a mobile command center for the nation. Ta Da!

[YupItsMe]

Wow, effin wow. Not to be a fear monger, but all I can think (especially living in VT) is THEY WALK AMONG US!