The Tom Timeline

[LC EFA]

Tracking TomInTib. (Tom's Early Years and Family Background)

First Some Family Background:

TomInTib  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-07-06 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. You bet! Only one slight problem..
   
I now live in California.

I am from around Houston, as well.

And my ancestors settled in what is now E Texas (Angelina County) in 1630.
   
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x877541

TomInTib  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-14-06 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. Thanks, txindy. I have been hunting with Legget. Great guy.
   
I am an original Texan (family in what is now Angelina County since 1630) and it is always good to see something positive on DU from our much-maligned home.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x417276

TomInTib  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed May-21-08 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Oh, I'm for real, all right.
   
One of my Father's friends blew up the Longview, Texas school bus yard the night before the first day of mandated integration of the Longview School District. Destroyed every bus in the yard.

I won't even tell you what my barber did.

My Great-Grandfather was the Sheriff of Angelina County, Texas for quite some time. He used to brag that any (substitute N-word, here) who was charged with a robbery or sexual assault against a White Person would never go to trial in his County.

He would just take 'em out into the Angelina Forest and come back alone.

I could tell at least a dozen more stories such as that one. Growing up in ultra-rural SE Texas will do that, you know.

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6062660

TomInTib  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-26-07 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #72
73. There's some bragging rights. But the first guy doesn't stand a chance.
   
My family comes from a clan of four families who settled in what is now Angelina County in 1630.

Yep, we were in Texas before the Mayflower landed.

The first Anglo families south of the Red and west of the Sabine.

We still have two of our original Grants.

I am the only person in my huge family (going back to second cousins, anyway) who lives outside of the State.

And I really miss it. Every day.
   
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1911863

TomInTib  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-14-06 01:06 AM
Response to Reply #12
13. My two favorite states..
   
My family crossed the Sabine River in 1630 to settle in what is now Angelina County.

They left behind family in present-day Jennings, Houma, Vinton, etc. .

Even tho I am most recently from Dallas, the upper Texas coast owns my heart.

But I did not spend 27 months in combat (SE Asia) to enable our government to outsource basically everything.

I do not enjoy losing. Losing anything.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x928682

TomInTib  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-02-06 08:33 PM
Response to Original message
6. This day is always special to me. My family was the first Anglo...
   
family of record in what is now known as Texas. Settling in present-day Angelina County in 1630, our folks witnessed every development (good and bad) from then to the present. I am the only member of my extended family who doesn't reside within the borders of the Greatest State in the Union.

But I can feel the tug of the land every time the airplane crosses the Red River.

!Viva Tejas!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=180x27414

So, sifting through the detrius of a clearly deranged mind, the result is That Tom claimes he comes from a family (apparantly one of four "anglo" families that can lay the claim to being "first" across the river) that has been in Angelina County, TX since circa 1630, after having crossed the Sabine River and leaving behind familym members in other places. Emphasis is given to the supposed size of this family. They still own two of the original land grants from for the region. It appears that a distant relative was the sherrif Angelina County at some time.

Tom's Youth

TomInTib  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-12-05 10:42 AM
Original message
For Tomintib's birthday today, I'm giving him his 1000+ post...
   
Won't you all wish him a Happy Birthday?

Thanks,
Ms. Tomintib

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DemoTex  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Journal  Sun Oct-14-07 09:32 PM
Original message
A big Happy Birthday to a great DUer: TomInTib!
   
Since Tom eschews The Lounge, we need to have a big party for him here in GD. What say?

Happy Birthday, Tom. Thanks for making it back to The World, and - ultimately - to DU. You are an asset here and to the cause. I love having another fighter on our team.

Cheers,
Mac

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2047830

Tom apparently came into the world, on either Oct-12th or Oct-14th depending on which of the above you use. (year is presently undetermined).

TomInTib  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-19-08 08:07 PM
Response to Original message
3. Civil War
   
As a kid growing up in rural Texas in a Southern Baptist environment, nearly every adult I knew was still fighting it.

Only no one was doing any shooting.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2892288

So he was "raised" Southern Baptist but ..

TomInTib  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-11-08 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Goodness
   
I grew up in a fundie, tho less crazy (Southern Baptist) environment.

But, at about the age of 7 or 8, I realized it was all a bunch of malarkey.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3146562

At age 7 or 8 he'd dismissed all that as malarkey. My what a precocious child.

TomInTib  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-29-07 04:53 PM
Response to Original message
6. Man, I cannot even bear to go over there.
   
Even though I never attended school, I imagine that the Lounge resembles a middle-school lunch room.

Sort of like MySpace or something.

Maybe I am just old.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1691263   

TomInTib  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-11-08 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Nope.
   
I never attended school a day of my life.

But I wanted to. So badly.

No TV, either.

I led a more isolated life than those kids in El Dorado could even imagine.

Tom

TomInTib  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-11-08 11:31 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Well....
   
I am not going into it here.

Those fools from that "Other Place" track me, incessantly.

Jerking off in their Mother's basement.

PM me, remind me.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3146562

He's Never attended school ...

...And here's a free hint Tom. You stop spouting bullshit tales on the net and we won't have anything to work with.

TomInTib  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-17-07 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #10
11. I am just a fool for non-domesticated animals.
   
I had an elephant for a companion until I was 13 years old (she slept outside my bedroom window).

And I am involved in "rescue" (Marin Humane Society).

But a coyote hybrid would just blow you away.
   
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1351232

...had an elephant for a pet....

TomInTib  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-24-08 11:58 AM
Response to Reply #46
64. I grew up along the Texas border.
   
I can spot an immigrant from a mile away.

Just the same as I can pick out any junkie in a crowd, being a fellow (long-time) heroin addict.

You should know what I mean.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3198600&mesg_id=3201176

And has been able to use his growing up "along the border" to be able to spot a Illegal Migrant from a mile away , presumably with some form of super secret CitizoSnoopa Binoculars (now with 10X zoom).

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TomInTib  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-06-07 08:17 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. Yep, nothing like it.
   
I first smoke opium in Mexico in 1962 (I was twelve years old).

My life was changed.

I didn't smoke pot until three years later, while trying to tamp down a brain gone spikey due to a drowning incident that I managed to get myself into.

Drowning - The Ultimate Gateway Drug

At least, that's my excuse.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1990301

Such a widely traveled young southern baptist that he smoked opium when he was 12 in Mexico. (and also narrows his apparant year of birth to 1950 - ish)
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TomInTib  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-07-06 02:57 AM
Response to Original message
1. Life is curious, ain't it?
   
I spent my youth on a ranch and was never able to go to any kind of school.

And then I drowned and took a few years to relearn to do everything.

And then I went wild.

Ended up in some crazy places.

And now we meet here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2873034

And then he drowned and was reborn...

[to be continued ...(contributions are welcome)

[bijou]

Great work LCEFA and a H5.  On the other thread one of his posts was about him being recalled to special forces any time up to the age of 62 which he said would be 2012, so that ties in with this reference, so likely born in 1950.

[franksolich]

Damn, that's good, LC EFA.

[delilahmused]

Thank you for starting this. I'm working on his "military" career but it's SO convoluted and being the (extraordinarily anal) research type that I am, I'm looking through some of the history/personal stories, etc. on the web to verify (as if)/contradict (more likely) his happy little Oliver "Rambo" Stone stories.

Cindie

[franksolich]

Thank you for starting this. I'm working on his "military" career but it's SO convoluted and being the (extraordinarily anal) research type that I am, I'm looking through some of the history/personal stories, etc. on the web to verify (as if)/contradict (more likely) his happy little Oliver "Rambo" Stone stories.

Cindie

By the way, I keep on forgetting to thank you, madam, for all you've done, and are doing.

This is extraordinary.  You are extraordinary.

I think I thank LC EFA more because I see him more, but you're never far from these thoughts.

[Chris_]

Math glitch -- if he smoked mj in 1962 and was 12, that makes his birth year 1950.

[Chris_]

Thank you for starting this. I'm working on his "military" career but it's SO convoluted and being the (extraordinarily anal) research type that I am, I'm looking through some of the history/personal stories, etc. on the web to verify (as if)/contradict (more likely) his happy little Oliver "Rambo" Stone stories.

Cindie

Follow it on both FR and search for Flippy Doo's (very funny) threads here.  I assume TOS has lost all its history (Flippy Doo has several there before we came into existence).
 

[dutch508]

Thank you for starting this. I'm working on his "military" career but it's SO convoluted and being the (extraordinarily anal) research type that I am, I'm looking through some of the history/personal stories, etc. on the web to verify (as if)/contradict (more likely) his happy little Oliver "Rambo" Stone stories.

Cindie

By the way, I keep on forgetting to thank you, madam, for all you've done, and are doing.

This is extraordinary.  You are extraordinary.

I think I thank LC EFA more because I see him more, but you're never far from these thoughts.

You will have to do a multiple timeline, timeline, due to the many different claims. One main timeline with several parrallel lines for the differnt conflicting claims.

[franksolich]

You will have to do a multiple timeline, timeline, due to the many different claims. One main timeline with several parrallel lines for the differnt conflicting claims.

Sooner or later, we'll get these all in a nice compact package, one or two threads, or three or four subject threads dealing with the lying titty primitive, as was done with DU for guests, which started out as separate threads, and then was consolidated into reasonable order.

But right now, people are still collecting the "ingredients."  It's sort of like when mamacags makes apple pie for her offspring, getting everything together on top of the kitchen counter first, and then mixing in.

[dutch508]

A quick attempt at a timeline:

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[dutch508]

Don't know why the background turned out black. You can't read the dates.

1950 Born
1962 smoked opium in Mexico
1965 smoked weed
1968 old enough to join Navy
1968-71 claims was in the Navy
                      PBR skipper
1969-72 claims was in Navy
                      PBR skipper '70 in Qua Viet
                      Seal team 3
                           SEAL tm with 3,3 USMC
                           SEAL extraction tm with 3 USMC
                           SEAL tm 3 at Quan Tri, Laos, South N. Veitnam

1988-89 twenty years service to navy

1989 recalled for Panama
       

[franksolich]

Don't know why the background turned out black. You can't read the dates.

1950 Born
1962 smoked opium in Mexico
1965 smoked weed
1968 old enough to join Navy
1968-71 claims was in the Navy
                      PBR skipper
1969-72 claims was in Navy
                      PBR skipper '70 in Qua Viet
                      Seal team 3
                           SEAL tm with 3,3 USMC
                           SEAL extraction tm with 3 USMC
                           SEAL tm 3 at Quan Tri, Laos, South N. Veitnam

1988-89 twenty years service to navy

1989 recalled for Panama
       

Problem, sir.

I believe the lying titty primitive said he spent 8 years in the service, and got out in 1972.

That meant, as bijou pointed out, he joined in 1964.....when he was 14 years old.

[dutch508]

Don't know why the background turned out black. You can't read the dates.

1950 Born
1962 smoked opium in Mexico
1965 smoked weed
1968 old enough to join Navy
1968-71 claims was in the Navy
                      PBR skipper
1969-72 claims was in Navy
                      PBR skipper '70 in Qua Viet
                      Seal team 3
                           SEAL tm with 3,3 USMC
                           SEAL extraction tm with 3 USMC
                           SEAL tm 3 at Quan Tri, Laos, South N. Veitnam

1988-89 twenty years service to navy

1989 recalled for Panama
       

Problem, sir.

I believe the lying titty primitive said he spent 8 years in the service, and got out in 1972.

That meant, as bijou pointed out, he joined in 1964.....when he was 14 years old.

Agreed, however, every date I seen him type in is 68/9-72. Now maybe he's saying he was in Vietnam during that time (27 months in combat). If that's the deal then he got out in 1976/77.

wonder when he found time for basic training in 1968, SEAL training, or 'pilot' training on a PBR?

[franksolich]

I believe the lying titty primitive alleges he got out in 1972.

I'm sure both LC EFA and delilah have that information.

[stickyboot]

TomInTib  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-26-07 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #72
73. There's some bragging rights. But the first guy doesn't stand a chance.
   
My family comes from a clan of four families who settled in what is now Angelina County in 1630.

Yep, we were in Texas before the Mayflower landed.

The first Anglo families south of the Red and west of the Sabine.

We still have two of our original Grants.

I am the only person in my huge family (going back to second cousins, anyway) who lives outside of the State.

And I really miss it. Every day.
   
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1911863

There are a couple of problems with your story, TiT.

One is that the Mayflower landed in 1620-look it up.

Secondly, here is a little historical information for you. East Texas and what is now Angelina County wasnt even explored by Spanish missionaries until the 1690s. But here is the local geneaological society's information on early Anglo settlement (much more at this source):

The settlement by whites in the future Angelina County began before the Texas Revolutionqv of 1836. The first deed on record, dated May 10, 1801, conveyed 5½ leagues of land to Vincente Micheli from Surdo, chief of the Bedias Indians... The first Anglo settlers in the district were the Burris family, who in 1820 settled in the northern part of what is now Lufkin at a place then called Burris Prairie. Within a few years other families came from Alto and Nacogdoches, and from other states, to settle along the rivers. Mexican authorities made land grants in the area in 1834-35.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txangeli/history.htm

So, perhaps your family really was amongst the early settlers, but your claims are off by, oh...about 200 years.

[Odin's Hand]

Angelina County, TX and the border counties of Texas are hundreds of miles apart. Another lie in the cap of feathers that TiT has created for himself.

[djones520]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TomInTib

It's just a start, but I've got work to start getting to so I can't take it much further at the moment.  I haven't yet included any DU references, but I plan on doing that with every one of his claims that I make note of.  Only reference links that work are once that don't go to DU.

Everyone start tacking on. 

Edit:  Nevermind...  it somehow got deleted within minutes of it being posted.  Not sure if I hit something to do it, or Wiki decided it wasn't worth keeping.

[Rebel]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TomInTib

It's just a start, but I've got work to start getting to so I can't take it much further at the moment.  I haven't yet included any DU references, but I plan on doing that with every one of his claims that I make note of.  Only reference links that work are once that don't go to DU.

Everyone start tacking on. 

Edit:  Nevermind...  it somehow got deleted within minutes of it being posted.  Not sure if I hit something to do it, or Wiki decided it wasn't worth keeping.

Might have to try Conservapedia. Wiki is moderated heavily by libs like Ben Burch.

[djones520]

Just completely wasted 2 hours of work...  *sighs*

[Rebel]

Just completely wasted 2 hours of work...  *sighs*

Lesson learned. Next time create everything on MS Word, or another word processor, then cut and paste.

[Chris]

Edit:  Nevermind...  it somehow got deleted within minutes of it being posted.  Not sure if I hit something to do it, or Wiki decided it wasn't worth keeping.

This is too funny...

This page has been deleted. The deletion log for the page is provided below for reference.

17:41, 7 July 2008 Friday (Talk | contribs) deleted "TomInTib" ‎ (unsourced bio, full of nonsense)

[The Village Idiot]

Thank you for starting this. I'm working on his "military" career but it's SO convoluted and being the (extraordinarily anal) research type that I am, I'm looking through some of the history/personal stories, etc. on the web to verify (as if)/contradict (more likely) his happy little Oliver "Rambo" Stone stories.

Cindie

try his ancestors coming to Texas in 1630. Thats not very danged likely.

[franksolich]

Kick.

[Revolution]

This is fantastic. Absolutely glorious. Well done, Delilah.