primitives suggest going door-to-door confiscating firearms

[BattleHymn]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027220266

Huge fire.  There are a ton of hilarious exchanges in it, from calling for executive orders, confiscation, and everything in between.  It's worth rowing over for a look.  Here is the OP:

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 07:57 PM
Star Member Logical (17,760 posts)

Unless you go door to door and collect all guns, you cannot stop a nut job from shooting people!

Most these horrible mass shootings are done by people who obtained the gun legally. Stopping private sales might help someone not legal to purchase a handgun from getting one.

If a lone nut wants to shoot someone they will steal or borrow a gun and do it. 50,000 hand guns are stolen a year. More than enough to commit all 10,000 murders by hand guns a year.

No one, including most democratic senators, will vote to collect all the guns in America. And with the 2nd amendment in place there is no way to do it easily. 2/3rd of the states are needed to change it. Too many red states to do that.

What is the issue is really is why people in this country want to do mass shootings? Many other countries have a lot of guns. Their citizens just do not want to kill people like this country does. Why is that? Our murder rate is terrible compared to countries we admire. Canada, UK, France, Etc.

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:02 PM
Star Member Fred Sanders (17,491 posts)
1. Australia had the solution. A proven solution. Ban the guns, pass a law, amend the constitution.

Whatever it takes. What laws man made, those laws man can unmake.

Really quite simple where there is the will.

The "throw up your hands in the air in hopelessness" is kind of unAmerican.

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:54 PM
Star Member virtualobserver (4,282 posts)
69. You think that Trump deporting 11 million people is hard....

Try confiscating 300 million guns.

Will you personally be a part of the confiscation patrol?

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:54 PM
Star Member Fred Sanders (17,491 posts)
70. Non-sequitur.

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:58 PM
Star Member virtualobserver (4,282 posts)
74. They are two similar procedures that would require house to house searches

I repeat, will you be volunteering for gun seizure patrol.

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:22 PM
LonePirate (2,374 posts)
27. I'm in favor of going door to door and confiscating all guns. The sooner the better.

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:27 PM
GGJohn (5,896 posts)
36. So I'm guessing that you'll help with the house to house searchs?

Or will you rely on others with guns to be on the confiscation teams?
And you'll also be in favor of massively violating the 4A?
And, how will you know what houses to search?
There are over 300 million unregistered firearms in the country that the govt. doesn't even know where they are.
Or are you in favor of searching every home in America?
How will the courts receive that 4A violation?

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:33 PM
LonePirate (2,374 posts)
44. We empower a national confiscation to coincide with the antiquated 2A repeal.

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:31 PM
Star Member PowerToThePeople (7,200 posts)
40. I support door to door collection.

Eom

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:56 PM
oneshooter (7,525 posts)
73. And you are willing to go door to door and do it?

Didn't think so.

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:10 PM
Star Member juxtaposed (1,015 posts)
92. I'm am so with u on that!

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:32 PM
oneshooter (7,525 posts)
104. Then start locally.

Grab a couple of trash cans and go door to door in your neighborhood. Politely knock and when it is answered tell the people why you are there. I am sure that they will allow you to search their house and confiscate any firearms you find.

Good Luck, let us know how it goes, with pictures.

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:37 PM
Star Member juxtaposed (1,015 posts)
107. so simple as u said, It would be if we didn't have clowns that felt one was taken their Nuts Too!

But kids will be always Kids..

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:43 PM
oneshooter (7,525 posts)
114. Go ahead and do it.

You have "right" on your side, if they don't like it then do it anyway.

After all, they are "cowards without their guns", so once you control them they should be crying at your feet.

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:57 PM
GGJohn (5,896 posts)
129. We seem to have a lot of Keyboard Kommandos here.

They want house to house searches and confiscation, but they're not willing to do it themselves, they would rely on others with guns to do their dirty work.

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:24 PM
Star Member PowerToThePeople (7,200 posts)
165. I will do it, if the laws are passed

Deputize me, I am more than willing,

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:27 PM
GGJohn (5,896 posts)
168. Yeahh, sure you would.

 

So you would carry a gun to take guns away from law abiding citizens? That would make you a hypocrite.

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:29 PM
Star Member PowerToThePeople (7,200 posts)
171. I never said I would have a gun.

The only ones saying that are the pro-gun peeps. I also said I would not do it unless laws were passed outlawing the weapons.

Your whole post is false.

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:31 PM
GGJohn (5,896 posts)
174. Ok, then how would you get people to comply?

Ask politely?

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:33 PM
Star Member PowerToThePeople (7,200 posts)
175. Yes, or get a search warrant.

By your logic, mlk, ghandi, and other non-violent movements could never have succeeded.

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:37 PM
GGJohn (5,896 posts)
179. MLK, Ghandi were advocates of self defense,

MLk applied for a Concealed Carry Permit but was denied by a racist system.
And what would you base your application for a search warrant on? Speculation?
No judge is going to grant a search on a hunch, there has to be reasonable suspicion.

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 10:21 PM
Throd (6,234 posts)
143. So people with guns are going to search all properties to confiscate guns?

People like you are why my batshit-crazy uncle and his friends have guns buried or hidden in remote locations.

[Maverick1987]

OK. I nominate Rolex Randys1 to personally come take mine.

[sharkhawk]

I've said this before to the gun grabbers.  Start in the areas with the most crime, the inner cities.  Go door to door in the ghettos and grab the guns.  That is where the most murders are.  Watch DUmmies heads explode.

[franksolich]

I've said this before to the gun grabbers.  Start in the areas with the most crime, the inner cities.  Go door to door in the ghettos and grab the guns.  That is where the most murders are.  Watch DUmmies heads explode.

Man, so many of us have suggested that.  Over and over and over again.

I know that I've personally suggested it to the sparkling old dude, who lives in an affluent nearly-all-white suburb of Baltimore, like, at least approximately 11,062 times.

And even to Jugs up in Minneapolis, at least a hundred times.

They say that dripping water eventually erodes away a rock, making an impression, but I'm wondering that that's true, at least when it comes to penetrating primitive skulls.

[txradioguy]

hu Oct 1, 2015, 07:57 PM
Star Member Logical (17,760 posts)

Unless you go door to door and collect all guns,

you cannot stop a nut job from shooting people!

Wanna bet?  It's rather easily actually.

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:02 PM
Star Member Fred Sanders (17,491 posts)
1. Australia had the solution. A proven solution. Ban the guns, pass a law, amend the constitution.

Whatever it takes. What laws man made, those laws man can unmake.

Really quite simple where there is the will.

The "throw up your hands in the air in hopelessness" is kind of unAmerican.

[Carl]

I thought they hated the police.

[Patriot Guard Rider]

I thought they hated the police.

They do, unless they don't. See? It's easy!

[Carl]

Response to RKP5637 (Reply #105)

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:10 PM

workinclasszero (5,142 posts)
158. Ikr? smh

This country is pathetic. We can't even defend our own children from mass murderers cause gee it's just to hard!

Any dumb animal will fight to the death to protect their offspring but not humanity oh hell no!

Well in America anyway.

Coming from mutts that believe ripping an unborn baby to pieces should be a right of passage to adulthood.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

You and what army?

[BlueStateSaint]

A fair number of the County Sheriffs in NYS have told Governor Andrew Cuomo to pound sand on the 'NY SAFE Act.'  They know that, even in the PRNY, that the first guy through the door in your masturbatory 'gun confiscation' has about an even-money chance of leaving said residence in a body bag.  Even the New York State Police will not use a 'SAFE Act' charge as the primary charge against someone.  (You can't get them to admit that, however.)  Why?  LEOs in NYS know that it's a bad, unconstitutional law.

Please, DUmmies, sign up for this.

[67 Rover]

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:02 PM
Star Member Fred Sanders (17,491 posts)
1. Australia had the solution. A proven solution. Ban the guns, pass a law, amend the constitution.

Whatever it takes. What laws man made, those laws man can unmake.

Really quite simple where there is the will.

The "throw up your hands in the air in hopelessness" is kind of unAmerican.

This mutt actually believes that the rights enumerated in the Constitution are granted by man and his government. Molon Labe.

[Maxiest]

I thought they hated the police.

As I was reading this, this was my first thought as well.  I swear the DUmmies pretzel logic is so screwed up that it hurts my head sometimes.

Anyway, Chicago crime yesterday.  I counted 3+ shot dead and 10+ wounded, were is the outrage Obama?

http://chicago.suntimes.com/category/7/71/news/crime/

[FiddyBeowulf]

I hope the DUmmies calling for door-to-door confiscation realize that means going to every door for it to work. That means their own door. Who knows what drugs, child porn or other things the authorities would find during the searches.   

[BannedFromDU]

OK. I nominate Rolex Randys1 to personally come take mine.

     Hear, hear. If we are having our guns taken away, I want to choose the fool I pity. Since Randy has already called for a civil war, let him come. Since he is ready to abandon his business because he hates capitalists, let him come.

     Wear that two-tone Submariner when you come, Randy.

[DumbAss Tanker]

It would be a low-life-expectancy kind of job in this part of the country, and damn' few local LEOs would want any part of it themselves for principle reasons, not just practical ones.

[Mr Mannn]

It would be a low-life-expectancy kind of job in this part of the country, and damn' few local LEOs would want any part of it themselves for principle reasons, not just practical ones.

Bingo. LEOs can't even serve a search warrant without another 100 to back them up

[Carl]

It would be a low-life-expectancy kind of job in this part of the country, and damn' few local LEOs would want any part of it themselves for principle reasons, not just practical ones.

Exactly,any declaration to confiscate guns is tantamount to a declaration of war on the citizenry with law enforcement at the front.
I doubt few would like to be its first causality.

[Skul]

DUmmies, this is precisely why the second was written and exists.

[SVPete]

OK. I nominate Rolex Randys1 to personally come take mine.

I'm kinda hoping some DU-folk volunteer for the confiscation duty. Especially in rural areas. Just don't warn them about what to do when they hear banjo music.

[Delmar]

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:31 PM
Star Member PowerToThePeople (7,200 posts)
40. I support door to door collection.

Eom

This primitive needs to change its name. 

Why don't one of you lurking POS primitives post a poll at democrat underground asking how many of you would vote to swap out the Bill of Rights in exchange for the Second Bill of rights?  I'd wager over 90% of you children would jump on it.

The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
The right of every family to a decent home;
The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
The right to a good education.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bill_of_Rights

[Boudicca]

I've said this before to the gun grabbers.  Start in the areas with the most crime, the inner cities.  Go door to door in the ghettos and grab the guns.  That is where the most murders are.  Watch DUmmies heads explode.

That would certainly kill their liberal idealism in one fell swoop.  I want to see the documentary.

[Maverick1987]

...penetrating primitive skulls.

...with lead projectiles.

Always an appropriate phrase when discussing firearm confiscation.

[BlueStateSaint]

...with lead projectiles.

Always an appropriate phrase when discussing firearm confiscation.

What about those of us who shoot jacketed bullets?

[Maverick1987]

What about those of us who shoot jacketed bullets?

They (the intended targets) are not worth the extra cost.  However, I will not discriminate.

[obumazombie]

I would support a door to door collection of guns if libs would agree first to...
No more welfare for the able bodied,
No more abortion,
Door to door removal of all illegal aliens,
A complete sealing of our southern border with fence or other physical non breachable obstacles,
No more social promotion, or affirmative action,
A flat tax,
A complete removal of owebumacare,
A complete repeal of title 9,
Elimination of the TSA,
Elimination of the Dept. of Energy,
Elimination of Dept. of Education,
Repeal of CRIA
Complete repeal of all unfunded mandates,
Make EPA regulations optional till such time as they are enacted by congress,
Open all federal lands to oil production,
Eliminate all subsidies for alternative energy,
A massive rollback of regulation on the coal industry,
Once all that is done, I will support a repeal of the 2nd amendment if I don't conveniently change my mind after getting all I asked for...you know, just like libs do.