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I wonder if he yelled "Don't tread on me!"

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I see. So, according to you, even though what I said is fully in line with many long-time members of this forum and fully documented with references to news stories, I am either a liberal or a RINO with no balls.

Got it. I read you quite clearly.


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I wouldn't put money on the Chief being particularly true to the facts on that one, it sounds like briefing room BS that made its way into an official statement.
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I was going to let this slide, but I changed my mind. You guys are far easy targets for me to let you get away with this:

Scrolled all the way to the top of the page n00b.

Nothing I've seen backed up what you said here:

Still waiting n00b

That's because you are willfully ignorant and refuse to read the words on the page:

I remembered this in my gun class, that many of the current  PO's are terrible shots, according to our NRA instructors. They are not practicing enough as it is, and combine that with adrenaline at the scene.
So there you go. Feel better? You shouldn't you should feel childish and small.


Have you ever had someone shoot or throw pipe bombs at you, dumb ass??

You did not answer my question. Have you ever had someone shoot at you? I have in the Army. Crickets, crickets.

Not to interfere with your strutting around and feeling like a big tough guy, but yeah, I served, too. Corps of Engineers. Demolitions. We were the ones with the scary bombs that make you soil yourself to the point of being too terrified to properly discharge your weapon. Did you ever get past that? Maybe not. Perhaps that is why you are carrying this irrational, inner rage.


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I wonder if he yelled "Don't tread on me!"

Am I the only one who sees the irony in the Bridgestone cap?

OK, that was funny.  :rofl:
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I wonder if he yelled "Don't tread on me!"

Am I the only one who sees the irony in the Bridgestone cap?

That was good for a high five!
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I was going to let this slide, but I changed my mind. You guys are far easy targets for me to let you get away with this:

Targets n00b?  Really?

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That's because you are willfully ignorant and refuse to read the words on the page:
So there you go. Feel better? You shouldn't you should feel childish and small.

No because that proves nothing.


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Not to interfere with your strutting around and feeling like a big tough guy, but yeah, I served, too. Corps of Engineers. Demolitions. We were the ones with the scary bombs that make you soil yourself to the point of being too terrified to properly discharge your weapon. Did you ever get past that? Maybe not. Perhaps that is why you are carrying this irrational, inner rage.


What unit?  When were you in?


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There you go children. Thanks for playing! I'm off to look for worthy opponents. You don't qualify.

Yeah you really pwn3d us.  :whatever:

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So there you go. Feel better? You shouldn't you should feel childish and small.


Why should I feel childish and small??  If they are not practicing, that is their own dang fault!! However, even if they were good shots. nervousness, high adrenaline would play a big factor. In this case, they are trying to bring a guy down, that had done excessive damage. For some, it might have been personal. Anger and grief, probably played a big part in missed shots.
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Why should I feel childish and small??  If they are not practicing, that is their own dang fault!! However, even if they were good shots. nervousness, high adrenaline would play a big factor. In this case, they are trying to bring a guy down, that had done excessive damage. For some, it might have been personal. Anger and grief, probably played a big part in missed shots.

I need to see a link to the missed shots claim you are making.


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Not to interfere with your strutting around and feeling like a big tough guy, but yeah, I served, too. Corps of Engineers. Demolitions. We were the ones with the scary bombs that make you soil yourself to the point of being too terrified to properly discharge your weapon. Did you ever get past that? Maybe not. Perhaps that is why you are carrying this irrational, inner rage.

Soooo you did have to shoot while bombs were thrown at you then?

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I need to see a link to the missed shots claim you are making.


I had pics up..I am still learning, but I was just nervous( at my firearms class)!!!
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The older brother was uninjured enough to be cuffed?

The suspect is always cuffed after a shooting. Thee only exception are if the suspect is believed to have explosives or hazardous chemicals on his person, in which case the officers maintain standoff distance and secure a perimeter until experts declare the scene safe; and circumstances where the suspect no longer has two arms and hands to cuff together.  :whistling:

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This is the third time this year we've heard of cops getting in major gun battles and not seriously wounding -- sometimes not hitting! -- their target. The heat of battle and all that, but these guys are pros, and none of them can deal a fatal shot?

It's nothing new. Most police officers are average to below-average marskmen, and shooting under the stress of real life (the two way rifle range described above) is vastly different from range qualification (as has also been stated above).
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I was watching a documentary on the shootout at the OK Corral, and apparently there were 30 shots fired; but only a few were fatal. The parties were only 6 feet away from each other. If the Earps and Cowboys couldn't do more damage than that during an intense gunfight, how can we expect "everyday" policemen to do any better? I'm not gonna put the cops down, because I've never been in that situation.
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It's nothing new. Most police officers are average to below-average marskmen, and shooting under the stress of real life (the two way rifle range described above) is vastly different from range qualification (as has also been stated above).

I would add that stress is doubled or tripled for a couple of nervous kids who haven't had much firearms experience.
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I would add that stress is doubled or tripled for a couple of nervous kids who haven't had much firearms experience.

Good point.
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What unit?  When were you in?


Yeah you really pwn3d us.  :whatever:

What's your DU name?

He is a lying POS liberal. He could not stand the heat so he had to tuck his tail between his legs and run off.

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The older brother was uninjured enough to be cuffed?

This is the third time this year we've heard of cops getting in major gun battles and not seriously wounding -- sometimes not hitting! -- their target. The heat of battle and all that, but these guys are pros, and none of them can deal a fatal shot?

Newsflash--cuffing a suspect, regardless of the severity of his/her injuries, is not unusual.  I'm thinking of the North Hollywood bank robbers, one of whom was still alive, lying cuffed on the ground before he kicked.  I'm sure there are other examples.
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I would add that stress is doubled or tripled for a couple of nervous kids who haven't had much firearms experience.

NYC...shooting at a perp at just over 10 feet.  9 civilians injured.

Part of it is training (or lack thereof) part is equipment.  Imagine a 10-12 lb trigger pull on a pistol and how much that'll screw up your aim.

And yes, there are states that mandate that level of trigger pull.
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NYC...shooting at a perp at just over 10 feet.  9 civilians injured.

Part of it is training (or lack thereof) part is equipment.  Imagine a 10-12 lb trigger pull on a pistol and how much that'll screw up your aim.

And yes, there are states that mandate that level of trigger pull.

As someone who's bolo'd on the 9mm range before I know this to be true.
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NYC...shooting at a perp at just over 10 feet.  9 civilians injured.

Part of it is training (or lack thereof) part is equipment.  Imagine a 10-12 lb trigger pull on a pistol and how much that'll screw up your aim.

And yes, there are states that mandate that level of trigger pull.

Uh yeah.  That would be one of a myriad of reasons why I am not a police officer.  YIKES!
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The older brother was uninjured enough to be cuffed?

This is the third time this year we've heard of cops getting in major gun battles and not seriously wounding -- sometimes not hitting! -- their target. The heat of battle and all that, but these guys are pros, and none of them can deal a fatal shot?

Did it ever occur to you they didn't want to kill him so they could gather some intelligence? Was he part of a terror cell? Did he receive training when he was "visiting his dad" for 6 months? Do they have any other bombs hidden anywhere? Besides, every time one of these idiots die, they're made into martyrs. That's why, we generally want to take them alive. As you weren't there, you shouldn't second guess other people. Of course if you think you could do better...by all means prove it. Next time something big goes down, just call the cops and say "hey, I've got this". Asshat! Bitchslap for being such a judgemental know-it-all! Of course, I suppose you're an expert marksman so that makes you perfect in every way, huh? People like you give humans a bad name!

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Did it ever occur to you they didn't want to kill him so they could gather some intelligence? Was he part of a terror cell? Did he receive training when he was "visiting his dad" for 6 months? Do they have any other bombs hidden anywhere? Besides, every time one of these idiots die, they're made into martyrs. That's why, we generally want to take them alive. As you weren't there, you shouldn't second guess other people. Of course if you think you could do better...by all means prove it. Next time something big goes down, just call the cops and say "hey, I've got this". Asshat! Bitchslap for being such a judgemental know-it-all! Of course, I suppose you're an expert marksman so that makes you perfect in every way, huh? People like you give humans a bad name!

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I was going to let this slide, but I changed my mind. You guys are far easy targets for me to let you get away with this:

There you go children. Thanks for playing! I'm off to look for worthy opponents. You don't qualify.

"Easy targets" and "worthy opponents"?

You really didn't last 25 posts.


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As someone who's bolo'd on the 9mm range before I know this to be true.

I never shot a round DA unless directly instructed to do so, and nobody ever did tell me to do that on a qual range.

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