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Offline FreeBorn

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Re: I HATE this repig Talking Point
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2012, 09:55:16 AM »
I heard what could/should be a great talking point on my ride into work last night. Wish I knew who the radio host was.
Anyhoo, here's the point~ The Libtards are always saying "tax the richest the most". O.K., let's say we do. Tax those who are the truly rich, Just those earning $10M per year. Tax them at a rate of 100%. That would provide the government with enough revenue to run for (are you DUmmies paying attention?) 18 days.

Did you DUmmies get that? EIGHTEEN FREAKIN' DAYS!

Obviously taxing our way to a socialist Utopia through squeezing the rich is NOT the answer.


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Re: I HATE this repig Talking Point
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2012, 09:56:59 AM »
I forget which talking head was interviewing 0bama before the 008 election about capital gains taxes. 0bama said he would raise capital gains taxes to make it fair. The interviewer said that history has demonstrated that decreasing the capital gains rate the government receives more overall revenue.  0bama admits that this is true. Interviewer then asks if the government gets more money coming in with a lower capital gains rate would 0bama still raise the rate. 0bama says yes he would because it is a matter of fairness.

0bama is just as economically stupid as your typical DUmbass and as equally blinded by rage at successful people. Is it any wonder why the USA has not and never will recover while 0bama is president and his fellow communists are running the government? NO.

I believe it was Maria Bartriomo.

http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/03/31/obamas-capital-gains-blunder


I believe this is a portion of the interview in which you are talking about.
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Re: I HATE this repig Talking Point
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2012, 03:49:34 PM »
I believe it was Maria Bartriomo.

http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/03/31/obamas-capital-gains-blunder


I believe this is a portion of the interview in which you are talking about.

Thanks! I saw it on YouTube but, surprise, can't find it there. Funny how all the stupid shit the smartest man in our history continually does gets scrubbed from there.  This is the closest I could find is 0bama doubling down on stupid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54jr3Ceu894

0bama is not a far left ideologue, just ask him.
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Re: I HATE this repig Talking Point
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2012, 04:27:30 PM »
So when is that rich bastard Warren Buffet going to pay the nearly 2 billion in back taxes and when are the losers at the DUmp going to demand that he pays up?


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Re: I HATE this repig Talking Point
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2012, 04:33:44 PM »
There are nuances to that so called 'talking point' , but the bottom line is it is irrefutable = and THAT is why you hate it.

Let me explain this in story form, that way we will minimize the use of all of those yucky numbers and math and stuff...

Dan's Widget Company needs a profit margin of about 5% yearly to remain competitive - which means have the money to pay the bills, the shareholders, the talent, and R&D for the next big thing. If Dan's has a good year where they make maybe 7 or 8%, then they might be able to expand, pay bonuses, hire new talent, upgrade infrastructure, etc etc. They might even bank some of that for a rainy day.

Now, if taxes, fees, etc, increase to the point where Dan's profit margin falls below 5%, what happens ?

Probably nothing at first, but eventually the company will be faced with tough decisions if they can't get back to that 5% baseline soon.

Choices :

A ) Quality reduction - produce the same widget at the same price using less expensive materials. If the product becomes too shoddy, consumers will go elsewhere.

B ) Cut back R&D and focus on the core widget business - if Dan's continues down that path for too long, they will fall behind their competitors, and their widget will no longer be attractive to consumers.

C ) Cut back what they pay their talent - Belt tightening will work for the short run, but talent will expect to get paid what its worth, and if Dan's wont pony up the cash, a competitor surely will.

D ) Decrease the size of business, sell assets. - Works until Dan's ends up housed in a tool-shed in an empty lot someplace.

E ) Decrease the size of business, lay-offs. - Works until Dan's can't keep up with demand, and they lose business to their competitors.

F ) Relocate to a more tax-friendly state/country. - This path is often followed, which is why liberal-run states are losing their businesses to conservative ones. The irony is increased taxes assessed return decreased tax revenue.

G ) Increase the cost of widgets to maintain the 5% bottom line.

F ) Some combination of any or all of the above.

Now take a look at line G - increasing the cost to consumers keeps Dan's in business, and everybody employed. And if it only takes an increase of a few cents on the dollar per widget, nobody will really notice.

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Re: I HATE this repig Talking Point
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2012, 05:21:11 PM »
The less profit a corporation makes the lower the dividend, if any, and the lower the share price will be. Seeing as how so many noble and hardworking public employee unions have money in the market, the pensions drop and retirement age goes up. .

Maybe there is a good side to raising taxes.
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