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Title: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: bijou on November 07, 2009, 04:01:32 PM
Major Nidal Malik Hasan worshipped at a mosque led by a radical imam said to be a "spiritual adviser" to three of the hijackers who attacked America on Sept 11, 2001.

Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt. His mother's funeral was held there in May that year.

The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organisations.

Hasan's eyes "lit up" when he mentioned his deep respect for al-Awlaki's teachings, according to a fellow Muslim officer at the Fort Hood base in Texas, the scene of Thursday's horrific shooting spree.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6521758/Fort-Hood-shooting-Texas-army-killer-linked-to-September-11-terrorists.html


But Islam had nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: Texacon on November 07, 2009, 04:25:41 PM
One of the DUmmies yesterday made some post about how one of the Fox reporters tried to make the shooter's name SOUND Arabic. 

They are idiots.

KC
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: Splashdown on November 07, 2009, 04:36:56 PM
If the MSM has taught me anything over the past 24 months, it's that where a person worships has no bearing at all on his world view.

I mean, look at President Obama.













 :uhsure:
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: DixieBelle on November 07, 2009, 07:57:51 PM
We will be done in by political correctness. It began a long time ago and is being hastened by 0bama.
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: littlelamb on November 08, 2009, 03:46:05 AM
If we do not get the label of not being PC we get racist slapped on us :bird:
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: Randy on November 08, 2009, 07:02:40 AM
If we do not get the label of not being PC we get racist slapped on us :bird:

I'm proud to wear them both. I am in no way PC, ever. Plus, even though I'm not really racist I'm not ashamed to call a spade a spade either, see number 1.
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: Peter3_1 on November 08, 2009, 08:02:20 AM
What is so difficult about callins an islamofascist terrortst mass murderer an islamofascist terrorist mass murderer?
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: MrsSmith on November 08, 2009, 12:56:35 PM
What is so difficult about callins an islamofascist terrortst mass murderer an islamofascist terrorist mass murderer?
It's racist to call a Muslim a terrorist.   ::) ::) ::)  Only white Christians can be terrorists...anyone else who does something horrific had a good reason.   ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: Peter3_1 on November 08, 2009, 01:00:18 PM
Oh, yeah, I forght Barry Said "I won!" so we all now live in Barryworls where up is down. Sorry! :banghead:
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on November 08, 2009, 01:04:46 PM
Quote
Major Nidal Malik Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas
Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas...

Fixed. He wasn't a soldier. He was a muslime.
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: rich_t on November 08, 2009, 01:14:17 PM
If we do not get the label of not being PC we get racist slapped on us :bird:

Then just call me a proud non PC Racist.
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: Thor on November 08, 2009, 01:35:36 PM
The link is tenuous at best. While I DO consider Hasan an Islamic terrorist, it's a leap to connect him to other Islamic terrorists right now. Of course, even IF ties to terrorism are found, we'll be told otherwise.
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: littlelamb on November 08, 2009, 01:55:38 PM
I'm proud to wear them both. I am in no way PC, ever. Plus, even though I'm not really racist I'm not ashamed to call a spade a spade either, see number 1.

I agree with you 100% Randy
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 08, 2009, 02:03:03 PM
We will be done in by political correctness. It began a long time ago and is being hastened by 0bama.

I hate PC too. It will be our death. PC needs to be eradicated like what was done to Communism in Chile, South Korea, and Indonesia in a brutal and swift manner. Terminated with extreme prejudice. America needs a Pinochet, Park Chung-hee, Suharto, Attila the Hun, Vlad the Impaler, or Tomas Torquemada.
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: Thor on November 08, 2009, 02:29:52 PM
I'm proud to wear them both. I am in no way PC, ever. Plus, even though I'm not really racist I'm not ashamed to call a spade a spade either, see number 1.

Are you saying that the old adage, "calling a spade a spade" is racist ?!?!?!?!?
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: NHSparky on November 08, 2009, 02:43:33 PM
Are you saying that the old adage, "calling a spade a spade" is racist ?!?!?!?!?

Certain members of the black community have deemed it so.  Then again, certain others have stated that a "black hole" is also racist, and others still have deemed it racist that more hurricanes do not have "black" names.
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: rich_t on November 08, 2009, 03:27:31 PM
Certain members of the black community have deemed it so.  Then again, certain others have stated that a "black hole" is also racist, and others still have deemed it racist that more hurricanes do not have "black" names.

How is New Orleans going to feel when Hurricane Shanique slaps upside the head?  They gonna blame the white boy that named it?
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: Thor on November 08, 2009, 03:31:13 PM
Certain members of the black community have deemed it so.  Then again, certain others have stated that a "black hole" is also racist, and others still have deemed it racist that more hurricanes do not have "black" names.

That's because they're IGNORANT.  Calling a spade a spade originates from the early Roman times. We're talking shovels here, people. I got caught up in this argument while I was USN. Of course, it was alleged that I was a racist because I used that adage. Unsurprisingly, it was some black non-rated airman that made the accusation. (E-3 or below that has not been through a Navy school)
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: Texacon on November 08, 2009, 05:46:03 PM
Certain members of the black community have deemed it so.  Then again, certain others have stated that a "black hole" is also racist, and others still have deemed it racist that more hurricanes do not have "black" names.

It's racist to even acknowledge there IS such a thing as a 'black' name.

KC
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: Peter3_1 on November 08, 2009, 07:09:47 PM
Himicane LeRoy? :naughty:
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: Happy Fun Ball on November 09, 2009, 06:11:28 AM
How is New Orleans going to feel when Hurricane Shanique slaps upside the head?  They gonna blame the white boy that named it?
Chocolate hurricane?
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: Chris on November 09, 2009, 07:49:58 AM
U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.

One senior lawmaker said the CIA had, so far, refused to brief the intelligence committees on what, if any, knowledge they had about Hasan's efforts.

Investigators want to know if Hasan maintained contact with a radical mosque leader from Virginia, , who now lives in Yemen and runs a web site that promotes jihad around the world against the U.S.

The Associated Press reported Sunday that Major Hasan attended the Falls Church mosque when Awlaki was there.

The Telegraph of London reported that Awlaki had made contact with two of the 9/11 hijackers when he was in San Diego.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-shooter-contact-al-qaeda-terrorists-officials/Story?id=9030873&page=1
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: thundley4 on November 09, 2009, 08:03:15 AM
U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.

One senior lawmaker said the CIA had, so far, refused to brief the intelligence committees on what, if any, knowledge they had about Hasan's efforts.

Investigators want to know if Hasan maintained contact with a radical mosque leader from Virginia, , who now lives in Yemen and runs a web site that promotes jihad around the world against the U.S.

The Associated Press reported Sunday that Major Hasan attended the Falls Church mosque when Awlaki was there.

The Telegraph of London reported that Awlaki had made contact with two of the 9/11 hijackers when he was in San Diego.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-shooter-contact-al-qaeda-terrorists-officials/Story?id=9030873&page=1

This is sounding more and more like a case of political correctness causing the deaths of Americans.
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: TheSarge on November 09, 2009, 08:11:02 AM
This is sounding more and more like a case of political correctness causing the deaths of Americans.

Ding Ding Ding!  We have teh WINNAH!
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Post by: zeitgeist on November 09, 2009, 09:30:47 AM
Certain members of the black community have deemed it so.  Then again, certain others have stated that a "black hole" is also racist, and others still have deemed it racist that more hurricanes do not have "black" names.

It seems like only yesterday (ok, perhaps it was the day before) I was perusing a thread at the dump where a pair of poorly armed dummies were engaged in a wordy battle of wit.  At some point the one accused the other of being the type person to use the word "niggardly" in polite conversation. This same dummy, earlier in the thread, had itself used the pejorative phrase 'them people'.  (The irony was delicious although largely unnoticed or at least uncommented upon by anyone on the thread)

It is both amazing and entertaining to read what those cunning liberal linguists are capable.  If only they knew how their immortal words are viewed when read by others.   :whatever:  

Skinner does humanity great service providing them a forum where they can show all the world what they are truly made of; pseudo intellectuals, full of [themselves], on full display.
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: Peter3_1 on November 09, 2009, 09:38:27 AM
oNE SMALL QUIBBLE. can we refer to this terrorist as Hasan or the terrorist?  He deserves no Title, not even pvt E-1.
Those of us who actually earned a grade, no matter how modest, are iffitated as hell every time "Maj." is placed in front of the POS's.  Or is it only me?
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: ReaganForRushmore on November 09, 2009, 10:20:51 AM
One, we start being Americans again. We get involved locally in politics, no more apathy on elections.
(This is general,I have a sneaky suspicion that the members of CC are labeled as "chronic voters" and are more actively engaged.)

We treat people as people,period.

case in point, why do you have Hate crime laws for a special group - Matthew Shepard, when the crime
was heinous to begin with? In Texas when James Byrd was murdered , no hate crime, just crime and the three involved will get their justice. (2 death penalties and 1 life in prison.)

Point is, Hate knows no one gender,race, creed or religion.

What Hasan did was a pure act of terror,....and the sooner we recognize that, the quicker we'll see that people hate Americans for no other reason other than they are being taught that.
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: Alpha Mare on November 09, 2009, 11:30:00 AM
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Army Chief of Staff
A fellow Army doctor who studied with Hasan, Val Finell, told ABC News, "He would frequently say he was a Muslim first and an American second. And that came out in just about everything he did at the University."

Finell said he and other Army doctors complained to superiors about Hasan's statements.

"And we questioned how somebody could take an oath of office…be an officer in the military and swear allegiance to the constitution and to defend America against all enemies, foreign and domestic and have that type of conflict," Finell told ABC News.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-shooter-contact-al-qaeda-terrorists-officials/Story?id=9030873&page=2
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: Eupher on November 09, 2009, 12:09:49 PM
When Hasan has his general court martial, there can be only one verdict:

Guilty, on all counts of premeditated murder.
Guilty, on all counts of conspiracy.
Guilty, on all counts of attempted murder.
Guilty, on all counts of whatever other charges are forthcoming.

And there can be only one sentence:

Death, in accordance with Article 118 of the UCMJ.
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: thundley4 on November 09, 2009, 12:25:25 PM
When Hasan has his general court martial, there can be only one verdict:

Guilty, on all counts of premeditated murder.
Guilty, on all counts of conspiracy.
Guilty, on all counts of attempted murder.
Guilty, on all counts of whatever other charges are forthcoming.

And there can be only one sentence:

Death, in accordance with Article 118 of the UCMJ.

With a pardon from Dear Leaderpiss be upon him shortly to follow, in the interest of promoting harmony.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: TheSarge on November 09, 2009, 12:29:56 PM
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/7/2009/11/500x_custom_1257467246594_homeland_security.jpg)
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: docstew on November 09, 2009, 12:55:22 PM
I wonder how much about new DHS policies were revealed to AQ by this terrorist scum
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: bijou on November 09, 2009, 01:57:42 PM
Al Qaeda aren't the only people he contacted.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,573052,00.html

What is it with Muslim terrorists and strippers. 
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: Eupher on November 09, 2009, 02:22:04 PM
Living a lie is what this animal is apparently good at.

Drinking beer, getting a couple lap dances, wow, what a man of faith.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: SilverOrchid on November 09, 2009, 02:39:09 PM
This is what I don't understand.

Islam is the religion of peace, according to the stupid and uninformed.

So why is anyone that calls themselves a Muslim in the military in THE FIRST PLACE????

So when they ban all Muslims from joining up, aren't they respecting the claims "they are PEACEFUL" people!"

?????????
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: Hawkgirl on November 09, 2009, 04:34:23 PM
So, after 9/11, Bush  & Co. kept us safe for 7 years...Just 11 months into the Bronze statue's presidency, we have a terrorist act on a US Military base(or post).

I fear this may just be the beginning..and US al Quaeda cells are going active.

Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: Hawkgirl on November 09, 2009, 04:38:58 PM
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/7/2009/11/500x_custom_1257467246594_homeland_security.jpg)

Ok, I may sound like a conspiracy nut...but could Obama BE the ultimate infiltration?  Stuff like this, that occurs over and over again, make it more than just a coincidence.
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: NHSparky on November 09, 2009, 05:34:13 PM
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/7/2009/11/500x_custom_1257467246594_homeland_security.jpg)

And I expect Madcow to be backpedaling on her screed from the other night any second now... /sarc
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: Chris_ on November 09, 2009, 09:08:29 PM
Ok, I may sound like a conspiracy nut...but could Obama BE the ultimate infiltration?  Stuff like this, that occurs over and over again, make it more than just a coincidence.

The Manchurian Medinan Candidate.
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: Thor on November 09, 2009, 09:58:19 PM
When I went to my Navy schools way back in 1975, there were Kuwaiti, Arabic, Iraqi, and Iranian students that the Navy was training to work on airplanes. With exception of the Kuwaiti, all of the others ALWAYS caused problems on the base. Didn't like them then and still don't.
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: Airwolf on November 10, 2009, 12:00:35 AM
one SMALL QUIBBLE. can we refer to this terrorist as Hasan or the terrorist?  He deserves no Title, not even pvt E-1.
Those of us who actually earned a grade, no matter how modest, are iffitated as hell every time "Maj." is placed in front of the POS's.  Or is it only me?

That's the first thing the Army needs to do .Strip him of rank and privileges and then try him for Murder.Terrorism and Treason
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: littlelamb on November 10, 2009, 06:56:24 AM
I don't think the people who are at Leavenworth would mind a visit from him
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: Hawkgirl on November 10, 2009, 09:30:38 PM
I almost reached across the coffee table and slapped my television when Chris Matthews did a "so he called Al Quaeda, what we're not supposed to call people anymore?..that means nothing" 

Yes, he said this. :hammer:
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on November 10, 2009, 09:59:57 PM
The more that comes out on this terrorist, the more disturbing it is. It's almost as if some were bending over backwards to protect him.
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: Chris_ on November 10, 2009, 10:24:38 PM
The more that comes out on this terrorist, the more disturbing it is. It's almost as if some were bending over backwards to protect him.

Somebody is.

(http://www.exposebarackobama.com/image/muslim.jpg)
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: thundley4 on November 10, 2009, 10:28:43 PM
Quote
PRESIDENT OBAMA: "Well, look, we -- we have seen, in the past, rampages of this sort. And in a country of 300 million people, there are going to be acts of violence that are inexplicable. Even within the extraordinary military that we have -- and I think everybody understands how outstanding the young men and women in uniform are under the most severe stress -- there are going to be instances in which an individual cracks. I think the questions that we're asking now and we don't have yet complete answers to is, is this an individual who's acting in this way or is it some larger set of actors? You know, what are the motivations? Those are all questions that I think we have to ask ourselves. Until we have these answers buttoned down, I'd rather not comment on it."
Video at the link. (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/11/10/obama_suggests_still_possible_hasan_may_have_cracked_under_stress.html)

This is after we all knew about the attempts to contact Al Qaeda, and the calls to hi former Imam.
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: Hawkgirl on November 10, 2009, 11:55:44 PM
Somebody is.

(http://www.exposebarackobama.com/image/muslim.jpg)

He's got a marked resemblance to Osama...
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: Chump on November 11, 2009, 12:10:02 AM
Someone with actual knowledge clue me in please...but I was under the impression that if a member of the military were known to have ties to a radical imam (I know, redundant) and known to have contacted Al Qaeda, then maybe that individual would be, like, closely watched?  Confronted maybe?  Investigated?  Instead, this sad sack was about to be deployed!  What gives?
Title: Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda (Updated)
Post by: thundley4 on November 11, 2009, 06:20:57 AM
Someone with actual knowledge clue me in please...but I was under the impression that if a member of the military were known to have ties to a radical imam (I know, redundant) and known to have contacted Al Qaeda, then maybe that individual would be, like, closely watched?  Confronted maybe?  Investigated?  Instead, this sad sack was about to be deployed!  What gives?

Supposedly he was investigated by the FBI, and the military was notified. His correspondence with the Imam was deemed to be related to a research paper he was writing on PTS.  How a fanatical Imam would have valuable knowledge of PTS is my question.