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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on September 21, 2017, 11:54:49 PM
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Star Member bluecollar2 (496 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029617569
If you have a vagina
You have a pre-existing condition.
I don't care how much the opposition tries to spin it.
Nancy and Chuck and the DNC need to make it absolutely clear that normally healthy females will carry the burden of being female in the form of increased premiums.
Failure to convey this message should constitute Dereliction of Duty...
so... all womynz require universal healthcare at government's expense?
Star Member Hekate (44,902 posts)
1. They do make it clear. It's in the Party Platform. It's not a secret. The word is "woman" btw
We are more than a body-part, and when trying to make your point off-campus...
Look, I had a mother who taught me and my little brother the names of our body parts as she was teaching us to talk nearly 70 years ago. The thought of referring to a little boy's penis as a pee-pee made her gag. When a supposed doctor in a popular medical drama called her adult niece's vagina her va-jayjay it made me gag because it was so belittling of both women.
So I am not into body-shaming. But still. Save the shock-value (or whatever) for those who need the jolt.
onetexan (804 posts)
18. agree, thread title should be "it's a preexisting condition to be a woman"
that sounds a whole lot better than refering to us women as a body part
DUmpmonkiez gotta bitch about something...
Warpy (96,295 posts)
51. Of course, because we all decided what sex we'd be born and what diseases we'd get
and all pregnancies are completely planned in plenty of time to pay triple premiums for family plans.
Your reasoning is an accountant's reasoning per actuarial tables. It has nothing to do with healthcare or humanity.
::)
How about 'women' who transitioned from men? Do they get 'women's' coverage?
JoeStuckInOH (357 posts)
35. Is it sexism, though? People may have certain risk factors but costs of the factors is quantifiable
I'm a guy.
If actuaries scientifically and objectively determine that men are riskier drivers to insure... then men are disproportionality increasing the risk factor in a pool of insured people. That's not sexism. That's statistics/economics. Personally, I think it's fair that I pay more if there exists statistically significant probability I will cost the insurance pool proportionally more than most others. I don't think it's fair to ask the female contingent of that pool to subsidize the male contingent. I understand this and my feelings are not hurt by it. In fact, a situation/system where others are unduly burdened by me would upset me more than the current standard of just paying my fair share based on the statistics of the matter at hand.
Likewise, nor do I want to pay more to subsidize others' disproportionate risk/cost when it comes to age (driving), sex (health insurance), or weight (health insurance).
An alternate example: Taxes ...
This is EXACTLY how taxes work (or how they're supposed to work). If you make more money, you have a higher tax liability both numerically and by percentage tax bracket. Yet no one's out there screaming "Wealth Discrimination". That would be absurd. I don't want to equally foot the collective tax bill in a group of people where wealthier persons have disproportionate amount of capital.
For some reason, as soon as chromosomes get involved people seem to overcomplicate things and overlook critical thinking.
Star Member Hekate (44,902 posts)
41. It only makes sense if you think health care is a commodity like a car or refrigerator...
...and not a basic human right like, for instance, food and water.
:thatsright:
Star Member BigmanPigman (4,939 posts)
13. Because women have more parts than men do.
Therefore more parts are available to contract diseases and a million other illnesses . It's math.
:banghead:
Star Member Hekate (44,902 posts)
19. Women get pregnant and give birth, and absolutely everything connected with that is eliminated...
...from GOP plans.
Contraception. Abortion (which has never been covered anyway). Fertility treatments (not just the massively expensive ones). Tubal ligation.
Prenatal visits. Childbirth. Postnatal visits. Well-baby visits.
Routine mammograms. Pap tests and other routine cancer screenings.
I don't think I've even covered everything, but that's all right because GOP plans cover nothing and women have to pay for all of this out of pocket.
We are over half the population, but our needs are regarded as an anomaly and not the norm. Being male is the norm.
We handle the health care decisions not just for ourselves but for our children -- so raise "women's needs" to being those of 3/4 or more of the population. But men's needs are the norm.
Viagra and Cialis are covered -- female contraception is not. But I hope you get the point by now.
oh, Bullshit.
Star Member Lars39 (20,728 posts)
24. When you as a female have to buy separate insurance in case you get pregnant.
That is categorizing female as having a pre-existing condition.
:whatever:
dogman (5,555 posts)
23. Conveying the message is the problem.
This whole GOP care has been promoted by free media, just like they gave T-Rump during the campaign. Sure the bring a Democrat on once in awhile, but my perception is almost GOP guests constantly. Maybe because I find lying annoying I just feel like there has been an excess of it. Generally it is on mute while I go online. Most do not have that convenience.
:rotf:
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The stupid in this thread was so strong, my phone nearly imploded...
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Star Member BigmanPigman (4,939 posts)
13. Because women have more parts than men do.
Therefore more parts are available to contract diseases and a million other illnesses . It's math.
1+1 = Bewbs :-)
Judging people by their race and sex is wrong.
I just wish you privileged White men would get that.
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The stupid in this thread was so strong, my phone nearly imploded...
This thread is so DU-DUmb! Low-Post-Count Noob regurgitates a worn out feminazi meme:
Star Member bluecollar2 (496 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029617569
If you have a vagina
You have a pre-existing condition.
I don't care how much the opposition tries to spin it.
And DU-folk clap like mentally challenged trained seals, praising it like the worn out meme was something new and profound. It's so old, moth-eaten, and worn out that kpete probably posted it during the OhBummer!Care debate of 2010.
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Star Member bluecollar2 (496 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029617569
If you have a vagina
You have a pre-existing condition.
If you don't have a vagina you are NOT a woman, :thatsright: :thatsright:
I don't care how much the opposition tries to spin it.
I fixed it. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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I fixed it. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
That DU OP is so cis-gendered! :-) :rotf:
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So it's better to have the FEDERAL government look after ones vagina, instead of having your STATE government look after it?
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So it's better to have the FEDERAL government look after ones vagina, instead of having your STATE government look after it?
Bill Clinton pioneered that idea!
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Bill Clinton pioneered that idea!
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: High 5
Is that mentioned in hlliary's book?
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Are none of these idiots aware that Van Halen's David Lee Roth used to have pregnancy insurance in case he knocked some groupie up? I guess we all should have paid for that, too.
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Are none of these idiots aware that Van Halen's David Lee Roth used to have pregnancy insurance in case he knocked some groupie up? I guess we all should have paid for that, too.
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Federal subsidies to Planned Parenthood have been "pregnancy insurance" to millions of promiscuous men and women.
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19. Women get pregnant and give birth, and absolutely everything connected with that is eliminated...
...from GOP plans. ............ blah, blah, blah.
We are over half the population, but our needs are regarded as an anomaly and not the norm. Being male is the norm.
We handle the health care decisions not just for ourselves but for our children -- so raise "women's needs" to being those of 3/4 or more of the population. But men's needs are the norm.
No I'll tell you what is the norm. You're supposed to be making me a samwich and fetching me a beer. Now I've read a lot of bitchin' and whining, but can't help but notice I still don't have a samwich or a beer in my hands.
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If you have a vagina.
You're probably a DUmp male. :-)
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Warpy (96,295 posts)
51. Of course, because we all decided what sex we'd be born and what diseases we'd get
and all pregnancies are completely planned in plenty of time to pay triple premiums for family plans.
Your reasoning is an accountant's reasoning per actuarial tables. It has nothing to do with healthcare or humanity.
I would suppose that the Warped One was making an attempt at being sarcastic EXCEPT for the fact that the DUmp thinks you can decide what sex you are.
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Star Member bluecollar2 (496 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029617569
If you have a vagina
Well, that covers most of the 'Men' at DU, but what are the *cough* 'Women' there supposed to do?
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Oy! After reading those DU-veterans posting as if the OP's claim is serious and real life, I think I need to apologize to "mentally challenged trained seals" for my comparison above.
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Oy! After reading those DU-veterans posting as if the OP's claim is serious and real life, I think I need to apologize to "mentally challenged trained seals" for my comparison above.
:rofl:
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Well, that covers most of the 'Men' at DU, but what are the *cough* 'Women' there supposed to do?
Umm, DAT, those are the ones with the balls. :o
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If you have a vagina you have the preexisting condition of Howyoudoin'
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Star Member bluecollar2 (496 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029617569
If you have a vagina
You have to make sammiches. :lmao: :lmao:
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You have to make sammiches. :lmao: :lmao:
>snort< :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :loser: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:clap: :clap: :clap: :cheers1:
You da man.
:hi5:
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You have to make sammiches. :lmao: :lmao:
Shot . . . Score! :yahoo: :cheersmate: :whistling:
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A song for DU's victims:
If I hadda vagina
I'd sammich in the morning
I'd sammich in the evening
All over this hou-ouse
I'd sammich pastrami
I'd sammich salami
I'd hand out sammiches to
My Hubby and my Kiddies
Ah-all, all over this house
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A song for DU's victims:
If I hadda vagina
I'd sammich in the morning
I'd sammich in the evening
All over this hou-ouse
I'd sammich pastrami
I'd sammich salami
I'd hand out sammiches to
My Hubby and my Kiddies
Ah-all, all over this house
Hi 5 worthy
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A song for DU's victims:
If I hadda vagina
I'd sammich in the morning
I'd sammich in the evening
All over this hou-ouse
I'd sammich pastrami
I'd sammich salami
I'd hand out sammiches to
My Hubby and my Kiddies
Ah-all, all over this house
Most EXCELLENT!!! :lol: :lol: :cheersmate: