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Title: ENVIRONMENTALISM: Deliberate, Outright Fraud in Manipulating Temperature Data
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 20, 2009, 09:08:56 AM
Links to original reports at:

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/20/do-hacked-e-mails-show-global-warming-fraud/
Title: Re: ENVIRONMENTALISM: Deliberate, Outright Fraud in Manipulating Temperature Data
Post by: Eupher on November 20, 2009, 10:22:38 AM
So much for the scientific method when it's practiced by noted thugs who clamber after research dollars.

Let's make the data fit the hypothesis. Yeah, that's the ticket.  :whatever:
Title: Re: ENVIRONMENTALISM: Deliberate, Outright Fraud in Manipulating Temperature Dat
Post by: BEG on November 20, 2009, 01:31:45 PM
Check out the Climate Audit LINK (http://www.climateaudit.org/).
Title: Re: ENVIRONMENTALISM: Deliberate, Outright Fraud in Manipulating Temperature Dat
Post by: Chris_ on November 20, 2009, 02:00:03 PM
Check out the Climate Audit LINK (http://www.climateaudit.org/).

404 Error.....either their server crashed, or someone has launched a DOS against them.......

What was there??

Oh.....and just for the record.........it must be a really bad day for our friend TNO........his religion just got busted.

doc
Title: Re: ENVIRONMENTALISM: Deliberate, Outright Fraud in Manipulating Temperature Data
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 20, 2009, 02:42:22 PM
Here is the contents:

Quote
I’ve redacted email addresses and direct phone numbers for the moment. The emails all have US public universities in the email addresses, making them public/FOIA actionable I beleive.


From: Phil Jones
To: mann@vxxxxx.xxx
Subject: Fwd: John L. Daly dead
Date: Thu Jan 29 14:17:01 2004



From: Timo H‰meranta
To:
Subject: John L. Daly dead
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:04:28 +0200
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510
Importance: Normal

Mike,
In an odd way this is cheering news ! One other thing about the CC paper – just found
another email – is that McKittrick says it is standard practice in Econometrics journals
to give all the data and codes !! According to legal advice IPR overrides this.

Cheers
Phil

“It is with deep sadness that the Daly Family have to announce the sudden death of John
Daly.Condolences may be sent to John’s email account (daly@john-daly.com)
“
Reported with great sadness

Timo H‰meranta
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xx

Timo H‰meranta, LL.M.
Moderator, Climatesceptics
Martinlaaksontie 42 B 9
01620 Vantaa
Finland, Member State of the European Union

Moderator: timohame@yxxxxx.xxx
Private: timo.hameranta@xxxxx.xx

Home page: [1]personal.inet.fi/koti/hameranta/climate.htm

Moderator of the discussion group “Sceptical Climate Science”
[2]groups.yahoo.com/group/climatesceptics

“To dwell only on horror scenarios of the future
shows only a lack of imagination”. (Kari Enqvist)

“If the facts change, I’ll change my opinion.
What do you do, Sir” (John Maynard Keynes)

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxx

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0)xxxxxx
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) xxxxxx
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jones@xxx.xx.xx
NR4 7TJ
UK
—————————————————————————-

References

1. http://personal.inet.fi/koti/hameranta/climate.htm
2. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/climatesceptics

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/19/breaking-news-story-hadley-cru-has-apparently-been-hacked-hundreds-of-files-released/#more-12937
Title: Re: ENVIRONMENTALISM: Deliberate, Outright Fraud in Manipulating Temperature Dat
Post by: BEG on November 20, 2009, 03:04:59 PM
404 Error.....either their server crashed, or someone has launched a DOS against them.......

What was there??

Oh.....and just for the record.........it must be a really bad day for our friend TNO........his religion just got busted.

doc

It gave me that too the first time I tried to go there but the 2nd time I got in.  Rush said their server keeps crashing.  
Title: Re: ENVIRONMENTALISM: Deliberate, Outright Fraud in Manipulating Temperature Dat
Post by: Chris_ on November 20, 2009, 03:28:22 PM
It gave me that too the first time I tried to go there but the 2nd time I got in.  Rush said their server keeps crashing.  

If this is not some form of elaborate hoax, it is gigantic.........this will shake the very foundations of current leftist pseudoscientific ideology as viewed by non scientists......perhaps the house of cards is finally falling.

I've maintained that global warming was "junk science" for years, so it is nice to see a ray of vindication.

doc
Title: Re: ENVIRONMENTALISM: Deliberate, Outright Fraud in Manipulating Temperature Dat
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 20, 2009, 03:33:22 PM
If this is not some form of elaborate hoax, it is gigantic.........this will shake the very foundations of current leftist pseudoscientific ideology as viewed by non scientists......perhaps the house of cards is finally falling.

I've maintained that global warming was "junk science" for years, so it is nice to see a ray of vindication.

doc
According to the hotair.com write-up the Dr. in the emails has--Phil Jones--already admitted the emails are genuine.
Title: Re: ENVIRONMENTALISM: Deliberate, Outright Fraud in Manipulating Temperature Data
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on November 20, 2009, 03:35:27 PM
Let's hope this can be validated and proven to be factual.

From a link at climatedepot.com .....

University of East Anglia CRU director admits the emails seem to be genuine: http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/hadley_hacked#63657
Title: Re: ENVIRONMENTALISM: Deliberate, Outright Fraud in Manipulating Temperature Data
Post by: Peter3_1 on November 20, 2009, 03:38:51 PM
http://tomnelson.blogspot.com/2009/11/hadley-hacked-roundup-with-updates-and.html

All the e-mails are at the above, if you want to read them all.