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Title: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: mrclose on February 14, 2018, 03:22:35 PM

Where I was born and raised! :thatsright:

“Nick Cruz in custody” Police scanner.

1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School

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A person was seen being taken into custody after a shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, Wednesday. One person is officially confirmed dead and multiple people have been injured, according authorities. The extent of the injuries are unknown.

The person taken into custody near the school matches the description of the suspect who was described as a white male last seen leaving campus in a burgundy shirt.

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Police-Respond-Marjory-Stoneman-Douglas-High-School-Parkland-474078423.html
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: mrclose on February 14, 2018, 03:40:54 PM
School superintendent just said multiple fatalities.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: mrclose on February 14, 2018, 04:09:21 PM
Nicolas de Jesus Cruz – Florida shooter Instagram page scrubbed


(https://s20.postimg.org/x74n8f5nh/CRUZ.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/s8h4tw1uh/)


http://www.pacificpundit.com/2018/02/14/nicolas-de-jesus-cruz-florida-shooter-instagram-page-scrubbed/
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: mrclose on February 14, 2018, 04:38:59 PM
Inside school shooting video
(If you want to, turn on the sound at video)

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/963888920764313602
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Old n Grumpy on February 14, 2018, 05:08:12 PM
I wonder if he is a "dreamer"?

This is an upscale community not to far from where I live. I guess it shows no where is safe.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 14, 2018, 05:15:39 PM
Bret Baier is saying 16 dead now.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: mrclose on February 14, 2018, 05:20:24 PM
Word is as of now SIXTEEN dead!

A LOT more photos and killers remarks at this site.

The school video won't play at the site but I posted the link to a playable video earlier.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/breaking-instagram-account-fl-shooter-nicholas-cruz/
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: mrclose on February 14, 2018, 05:44:49 PM
DEMOCRAT!

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Cruz, Nicolas was born 26 May 1998, is male, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 803 W Oakland Park Blvd, Apt A 12, Oakland Park, Florida 33311.

Florida voter ID number 124308057. His telephone number is 1-754-368-1309. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 December 2017.

Previous information:
30 November 2016 voter list: Nicolas De Jesus Cruz, 803 W Oakland Park Blvd, APT A 12, Oakland Park, FL 33311 Florida Democratic Party.

31 October 2016 voter list: Nicolas De Jesus Cruz, 803 W Oakland Park BLVD, APT 2 A, Oakland Park, FL 33311 Florida Democratic Party. 3348841

http://www.bcpa.net/RecInfo.asp?URL_Folio=494222AA0120
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: DLR Pyro on February 15, 2018, 03:35:41 PM
DEMOCRAT!
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Cruz, Nicolas was born 26 May 1998, is male, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 803 W Oakland Park Blvd, Apt A 12, Oakland Park, Florida 33311.

Florida voter ID number 124308057. His telephone number is 1-754-368-1309. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 December 2017.

Previous information:
30 November 2016 voter list: Nicolas De Jesus Cruz, 803 W Oakland Park Blvd, APT A 12, Oakland Park, FL 33311 Florida Democratic Party.

31 October 2016 voter list: Nicolas De Jesus Cruz, 803 W Oakland Park BLVD, APT 2 A, Oakland Park, FL 33311 Florida Democratic Party. 3348841
http://www.bcpa.net/RecInfo.asp?URL_Folio=494222AA0120

unpossible.  He is a white supremacist.  I thought only republicans could be white supremacists...

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The Anti-Defamation League, a civil rights watchdog, told ABC News they have information they believe to be credible linking Nikolas Cruz, the Florida school shooting suspect, to a white supremacist group called Republic of Florida.
 
http://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-school-shooting-suspect/story?id=53092753 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-school-shooting-suspect/story?id=53092753)
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: thundley4 on February 15, 2018, 04:53:16 PM
http://www.bcpa.net/RecInfo.asp?URL_Folio=494222AA0120


unpossible.  He is a white supremacist.  I thought only republicans could be white supremacists...
 http://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-school-shooting-suspect/story?id=53092753 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-school-shooting-suspect/story?id=53092753)

The connection to the white nationalist group was a flat out lie.  He's one of the lefts.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: dutch508 on February 15, 2018, 09:38:35 PM
The connection to the white nationalist group was a flat out lie.  He's one of the lefts.

yes, well, lie or not- that's the only headline you'll see about this ****stick now.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: SVPete on February 16, 2018, 11:30:16 AM
Could someone explain to me how Cruz got 39 home visits by LEOs in 8 years or less (http://fox61.com/2018/02/16/deputies-called-to-florida-high-school-gunmans-home-39-times-since-2010/) and stayed out of jail? 5 times a year!

By way of contrast, in over 25 years my kids, wife, and I have received two LEO home visits, once when my son reported that the house next to us had been broken into, and once when SJPD thought my daughter's car had been stolen, crashed, and abandoned (her car was parked in front of a house where she was house-sitting).
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Old n Grumpy on February 16, 2018, 03:24:03 PM
After all the havoc he caused it is a shame he is still alive. A lot of time and money will be spent defending him and keeping him from being executed. :rant:
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 16, 2018, 05:53:08 PM
His public defender has said that her defendant will plead guilty to 17 counts of first-degree murder, in exchange for life without parole.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: DLR Pyro on February 16, 2018, 06:01:32 PM
His public defender has said that her defendant will plead guilty to 17 counts of first-degree murder, in exchange for life without parole.
Why would a 19 year old want LWOP?
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Eupher on February 16, 2018, 07:52:37 PM
His public defender has said that her defendant will plead guilty to 17 counts of first-degree murder, in exchange for life without parole.

**** that. The bastard did the crimes. He's gotta get the needle. Ripping pissed because the ****stick wasn't put down like the rabid animal he is. Would have saved the taxpayers a shitload of money.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 16, 2018, 11:17:21 PM
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Kelly Guthrie Raley
Yesterday at 5:25am · Eustis, FL ·

Okay, I’ll be the bad guy and say what no one else is brave enough to say, but wants to say. I’ll take all the criticism and attacks from everyone because you know what? I’m a TEACHER. I live this life daily. And I wouldn’t do anything else! But I also know daily I could end up in an active shooter situation.

Until we, as a country, are willing to get serious and talk about mental health issues, lack of available care for the mental health issues, lack of discipline in the home, horrendous lack of parental support when the schools are trying to control horrible behavior at school (oh no! Not MY KID. What did YOU do to cause my kid to react that way?), lack of moral values, and yes, I’ll say it-violent video games that take away all sensitivity to ANY compassion for others’ lives, as well as reality TV that makes it commonplace for people to constantly scream up in each others’ faces and not value any other person but themselves, we will have a gun problem in school. Our kids don’t understand the permanency of death anymore!!!

I grew up with guns. Everyone knows that. But you know what? My parents NEVER supported any bad behavior from me. I was terrified of doing something bad at school, as I would have not had a life until I corrected the problem and straightened my ass out. My parents invaded my life. They knew where I was ALL the time. They made me have a curfew. They made me wake them up when I got home. They made me respect their rules. They had full control of their house, and at any time could and would go through every inch of my bedroom, backpack, pockets, anything! Parents: it’s time to STEP UP! Be the parent that actually gives a crap! Be the annoying mom that pries and knows what your kid is doing. STOP being their friend. They have enough “friends” at school. Be their parent. Being the “cool mom” means not a damn thing when either your kid is dead or your kid kills other people because they were allowed to have their space and privacy in YOUR HOME. I’ll say it again. My home was filled with guns growing up. For God’s sake, my daddy was an 82nd Airborne Ranger who lost half his face serving our country. But you know what? I never dreamed of shooting anyone with his guns. I never dreamed of taking one! I was taught respect for human life, compassion, rules, common decency, and most of all, I was taught that until I moved out, my life and bedroom wasn’t mine...it was theirs. And they were going to know what was happening because they loved me and wanted the best for me.

There. Say that I’m a horrible person. I didn’t bring up gun control, and I will refuse to debate it with anyone. This post wasn’t about gun control. This was me, loving the crap out of people and wanting the best for them. This was about my school babies and knowing that God created each one for greatness, and just wanting them to reach their futures. It’s about 20 years ago this year I started my teaching career. Violence was not this bad 20 years ago. Lack of compassion wasn’t this bad 20 years ago. And God knows 20 years ago that I wasn’t afraid daily to call a parent because I KNEW that 9 out of 10 would cuss me out, tell me to go to Hell, call the news on me, call the school board on me, or post all over FaceBook about me because I called to let them know what their child chose to do at school...because they are a NORMAL kid!!!!!

Those 17 lives mattered. When are we going to take our own responsibility seriously?

https://www.facebook.com/kellygraley/posts/10156224702772958

It is not about guns. It is about youth who do not have respect. Too many parents are being friends with their children. Childrens are being coddled too much.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 16, 2018, 11:24:22 PM
FBI admits it didn’t investigate tip on alleged school shooter last month
https://nypost.com/2018/02/16/fbi-failed-to-investigate-tip-on-school-shooter-last-month/

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The FBI was warned last month that Nikolas Cruz was an armed psycho who might shoot up a school — but it didn’t bother investigating, the agency admitted Friday.

“A person close to” Cruz called the agency’s tipline on Jan. 5 and reported the 19-year-old had a “desire to kill people, erratic behavior, and disturbing social media posts” and there was “potential of him conducting a school shooting,” the FBI said in a statement.

But the agency said it failed to pass on any of that information to its Miami field office, even thought its own protocols say he “should have been assessed as a potential threat to life.”

The FBI really dropped the ball on this.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 16, 2018, 11:29:22 PM
Shooting victim’s dad lashes out at funeral: ‘You killed my kid!’
https://nypost.com/2018/02/16/distraught-dad-lashes-out-at-funeral-you-killed-my-kid/

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“You killed my kid!” the father of Florida school shooting victim Meadow Jade Pollack, 18, railed during her funeral Friday.

“This is just unimaginable to think I will never see my princess again,” the grief-stricken dad, Andrew, told some 1,000 mourners gathered at Congregation K’ol Tikvah in Parkland.

The sound of sobbing echoed inside the temple’s vast sanctuary, a 10-minute drive east of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, where his daughter was one of 17 fatalities Wednesday.

I cannot imagine tbe grief that the parents are going through.  :( :(

That killer deserves to be executed in the most gruesome way. :mad:  :argh:
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: thundley4 on February 17, 2018, 03:53:33 AM
FBI admits it didn’t investigate tip on alleged school shooter last month
https://nypost.com/2018/02/16/fbi-failed-to-investigate-tip-on-school-shooter-last-month/

The FBI really dropped the ball on this.

The FBI has dropped the ball on several of these attacks. Boston Marathon, San Bernardino. the Florida nightclub, Vegas, they had some knowledge or tips about all of these.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 17, 2018, 12:46:37 PM
The FBI has dropped the ball on several of these attacks. Boston Marathon, San Bernardino. the Florida nightclub, Vegas, they had some knowledge or tips about all of these.

Even going back to 9/11.

The FBI has become a political police force.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 17, 2018, 02:05:19 PM
How white nationalists fooled the media about Florida shooter
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/16/florida-shooting-white-nationalists-415672

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Following misrepresentations by a white nationalist leader and coordinated efforts by internet trolls, numerous researchers and media outlets spread a seemingly false claim that the man charged with killing more than a dozen people at a Florida high school belonged to an extremist group.

Law enforcement agencies say they have no evidence so far to support this claim, and the rumor appears to have been perpetrated by white nationalist trolls themselves.

On Thursday afternoon, the Anti-Defamation League reported that a white supremacist group claimed ties with Nikolas Cruz, who confessed to the shooting spree that killed at least 17 people, including many high-school students, at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.

I did not think the killer was part of any white supremacist group.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 18, 2018, 11:49:26 AM
Nikolas Cruz showed no warning signs before Florida school shooting, say couple who took him in
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/18/nikolas-cruz-showed-no-warning-signs-before-florida-school-shooting-say-couple-who-took-him-in.html

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The couple who took in school massacre suspect Nikolas Cruz months before last week’s Florida shooting said they had a “monster living under our roof" but saw no warning signs the night before the bloodbath — despite the 19-year-old’s history of trouble in school, reports said.

In an interview with the Sun-Sentinel on Saturday, James and Kimberly Snead said they never saw the violent side of Cruz, but recognized that the 19-year-old was depressed about his mother, who died in November. The couple had opened their home to Cruz, who was staying with a family friend, at their son’s request.

I am pretty sure James and Kimberly Snead saw something very off about Nikolas Cruz.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: SVPete on February 19, 2018, 09:53:07 AM
Nikolas Cruz showed no warning signs before Florida school shooting, say couple who took him in
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/18/nikolas-cruz-showed-no-warning-signs-before-florida-school-shooting-say-couple-who-took-him-in.html

I am pretty sure James and Kimberly Snead saw something very off about Nikolas Cruz.

Keep in mind that they only took him in in November or December. So even if true their statement doesn't mean much wrt Cruz.

Cruz was known to be violent and to threaten violence since middle school. That would be somewhere around 6th Grade! For half of Cruz's school "career" teachers and educrats KNEW what Cruz was (short of being certain he would commit mass-murderer). But the $7K-$10K per year of ADA money he represented was too precious to the educrats!

The thing that has me very POed about this shooting is that there were so damned many points at which it might have been prevented:

* As detailed above, school educrats knew Cruz was violent, but kept him schools' general population (intentional use of prison terminology);

* Police visited his home 39 times in 7 or 8 years, but nothing was ever done - about his violence or, if there was any, about abuse by his adoptive Mother;

* School educrats knew Cruz was violent, but allowed him on the high school JROTC marksmanship team;

* FL DSS/CPS (whatever the FL bureaucrats call themselves) evaluated Cruz 2 years ago and deemed him a "minimal threat";

* In September, 2017 Cruz was reported to the FBI for explicit and very specific threats on social media, but nothing was done;

* In January, 2018 Cruz was reported as a threat to the FBI, in great and accurate detail, but nothing was done; the FBI office in Miami wasn't even notified!

Cruz had hundreds of contacts with authorities, yet not one seemed to realize that he should not be in schools' general population or in a position that would feed and train him in his tendency toward violence. The FBI did nothing, twice! And the person who received the January call probably didn't even do the minimal history checking to realize this was the second time Cruz had been reported!

The mail boxes of the 17 families who lost children to Cruz and of the hospitalized survivors should be overflowing with abject apologies from educrats, DSS/CPS bureaucrats, and law enforcement people who failed their dead and wounded children! And the asshole politicians and activists using their children's bloodied bodies as a podium for their cause should be muzzled and shamed,
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: dixierose on February 19, 2018, 07:56:27 PM
Come on SVPete, you know the fault lies ONLY with the NRA and the politicians who receive money from the NRA. No one else is to blame.

Ugh...the MSM trotting the kids out is making me sick. The media (with help from the Dems) put these kids in front of the camera because they believe that decent humans (eg those who are members of the NRA) will not DARE to attack them. If we attack their ideas, we are attacking them. It's disgusting, and it pisses me off. And my liberal friends on Twitter are loving it. They are saying that these kids are the future and they will make the changes that are needed. They are like proud parents. In the same breath, they say they don't want anyone younger than 21 to be able to buy a gun. Which is it?
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: thundley4 on February 19, 2018, 09:31:17 PM
Come on SVPete, you know the fault lies ONLY with the NRA and the politicians who receive money from the NRA. No one else is to blame.

Ugh...the MSM trotting the kids out is making me sick. The media (with help from the Dems) put these kids in front of the camera because they believe that decent humans (eg those who are members of the NRA) will not DARE to attack them. If we attack their ideas, we are attacking them. It's disgusting, and it pisses me off. And my liberal friends on Twitter are loving it. They are saying that these kids are the future and they will make the changes that are needed. They are like proud parents. In the same breath, they say they don't want anyone younger than 21 to be able to buy a gun. Which is it?

David Hogg, the so-called leader of the students at Parkland is little more than a leftist prop. His dad is ex-FBI.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 19, 2018, 11:12:47 PM
Keep in mind that they only took him in in November or December. So even if true their statement doesn't mean much wrt Cruz.

Cruz was known to be violent and to threaten violence since middle school. That would be somewhere around 6th Grade! For half of Cruz's school "career" teachers and educrats KNEW what Cruz was (short of being certain he would commit mass-murderer). But the $7K-$10K per year of ADA money he represented was too precious to the educrats!

The thing that has me very POed about this shooting is that there were so damned many points at which it might have been prevented:

* As detailed above, school educrats knew Cruz was violent, but kept him schools' general population (intentional use of prison terminology);

* Police visited his home 39 times in 7 or 8 years, but nothing was ever done - about his violence or, if there was any, about abuse by his adoptive Mother;

* School educrats knew Cruz was violent, but allowed him on the high school JROTC marksmanship team;

* FL DSS/CPS (whatever the FL bureaucrats call themselves) evaluated Cruz 2 years ago and deemed him a "minimal threat";

* In September, 2017 Cruz was reported to the FBI for explicit and very specific threats on social media, but nothing was done;

* In January, 2018 Cruz was reported as a threat to the FBI, in great and accurate detail, but nothing was done; the FBI office in Miami wasn't even notified!

Cruz had hundreds of contacts with authorities, yet not one seemed to realize that he should not be in schools' general population or in a position that would feed and train him in his tendency toward violence. The FBI did nothing, twice! And the person who received the January call probably didn't even do the minimal history checking to realize this was the second time Cruz had been reported!

The mail boxes of the 17 families who lost children to Cruz and of the hospitalized survivors should be overflowing with abject apologies from educrats, DSS/CPS bureaucrats, and law enforcement people who failed their dead and wounded children! And the asshole politicians and activists using their children's bloodied bodies as a podium for their cause should be muzzled and shamed,

It is sickening and wrong at all levels.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: SVPete on February 20, 2018, 08:33:43 AM
It's still raining shoes in Broward County:

Did the Progressive 'Broward County Solution' Cost 17 Student Lives? (https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/02/did_the_progressive_broward_county_solution_cost_17_student_lives.html)

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"We're not compromising school safety.  We're really saving the lives of kids," boasted Michaelle Valbrun-Pope, executive director of Student Support Initiatives for Broward County Public Schools, in August 2017.

Valbrun-Pope was referring to what an article by Jeffrey Benzing in Public Source calls the "Broward County Solution."  As Benzing relates, Broward County used to lead the state of Florida in sending students to the state's juvenile justice system.  County leaders responded with a perfectly progressive solution: "lower arrests by not making arrests."

Authorities agreed to treat twelve different misdemeanor offenses as school-related issues, not criminal ones.  The results impressed the people who initiated the program.  Arrests dropped from more than a thousand in 2011-2012 to less than four hundred just four years later.
...
According to a source who spoke to the Miami Herald, Cruz had been suspended from Stoneman Douglas High for fighting and also for being caught with bullets in his backpack.  This was apparently at least one of the reasons why administrators reportedly emailed a warning to teachers against allowing Cruz on the campus with a backpack.  He was later expelled for reasons that have not been disclosed, but he was apparently not arrested.

As I posted on CU, from the high school up through the FBI, was there anything stupid left undone?!
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 20, 2018, 08:40:02 AM
Pete, with your last two posts, you have highlighted at least six different instances where he could have been stopped.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: DefiantSix on February 20, 2018, 11:23:09 AM
Pete, with your last two posts, you have highlighted at least six different instances where he could have been stopped.

All of which stand as irrefutable evidence that the Powers That Be and their useful idiots in the Gun Grabber camp(s) aren't interested in new gun control laws to control the CRIMINALS; they're after control of the law abiding.

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ea/4f/03/ea4f038d6d44aba689e083d67bf2ba98--diy-costumes-costume-ideas.jpg)
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: SVPete on February 20, 2018, 12:01:30 PM
[/b]And a bit more from Broward County's Never-Never-Land School District.[/b] (https://hotair.com/archives/2018/02/20/parkland-student-warned-people-several-times-mass-shooter/) About the only Broward County agencies that don't have some 'splainin' to do is Animal Control ... because they deal with four-legged rather than two-legged mammals.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: SVPete on February 22, 2018, 10:11:44 AM
Oh, FFS! (https://edition.cnn.com/2018/02/21/us/school-shooter-gun-threats-first-host-family-told-police-invs/index.html)

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(CNN)Just months before Nikolas Cruz killed 17 at his former high school in South Florida, the host family who had taken him in immediately after his mother's death warned local law enforcement that the 19-year-old had "used a gun against people before" and "has put the gun to others' heads in the past," according to records obtained by CNN.

It's the latest indication of how law enforcement encountered warning signs about Cruz's violent behavior before he attacked students and teachers at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School on Valentine's Day.

On the day after Thanksgiving, Cruz was at work at a Dollar Tree store. Rocxanne Deschamps' son, Rock, 22, called 911 to report that an "adopted 19-year-old son" had possibly hidden a "gun in the backyard," according to a dispatcher's notes. Rock Deschamps told law enforcement "there were no weapons allowed in the household," the report said. It's unclear from the record whether sheriff's deputies conducted a search. The incident was classified as "domestic unfounded," which means a deputy didn't find proof to back up the claims.
The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office was called again to the home four days later, when Rock said Cruz lashed out against the family that took him in, according to the Palm Beach deputy's report and dispatcher notes.  ...

Rock interrupted Cruz and a fight broke out between them, according to the documents. Cruz left the home, and Rocxanne Deschamps called 911. She warned the police dispatcher that Cruz said "he was going to get his gun and come back," records show. She said Cruz had "bought a gun from Dick's last week and is now going to pick it up."
Rocxanne Deschamps told the dispatcher that Cruz had "bought tons of ammo" and "has used a gun against ppl before," the notes said. "He has put the gun to others heads in the past."
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: DLR Pyro on February 22, 2018, 02:22:45 PM
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(CNN)Just months before Nikolas Cruz killed 17 at his former high school in South Florida, the host family who had taken him in immediately after his mother's death warned local law enforcement that the 19-year-old had "used a gun against people before" and "has put the gun to others' heads in the past," according to records obtained by CNN.

It's the latest indication of how law enforcement encountered warning signs about Cruz's violent behavior before he attacked students and teachers at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School on Valentine's Day.

On the day after Thanksgiving, Cruz was at work at a Dollar Tree store. Rocxanne Deschamps' son, Rock, 22, called 911 to report that an "adopted 19-year-old son" had possibly hidden a "gun in the backyard," according to a dispatcher's notes. Rock Deschamps told law enforcement "there were no weapons allowed in the household," the report said. It's unclear from the record whether sheriff's deputies conducted a search. The incident was classified as "domestic unfounded," which means a deputy didn't find proof to back up the claims.
The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office was called again to the home four days later, when Rock said Cruz lashed out against the family that took him in, according to the Palm Beach deputy's report and dispatcher notes.  ...

Rock interrupted Cruz and a fight broke out between them, according to the documents. Cruz left the home, and Rocxanne Deschamps called 911. She warned the police dispatcher that Cruz said "he was going to get his gun and come back," records show. She said Cruz had "bought a gun from Dick's last week and is now going to pick it up."
Rocxanne Deschamps told the dispatcher that Cruz had "bought tons of ammo" and "has used a gun against ppl before," the notes said. "He has put the gun to others heads in the past."

and yet the narrative from the left is that the NRA and republican law makers are to blame for last week's tragic shooting...
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: thundley4 on February 22, 2018, 02:38:09 PM
and yet the narrative from the left is that the NRA and republican law makers are to blame for last week's tragic shooting...

:tinfoil2: More and more I'm beginning to wonder if the feds aren't letting these shootings happen. They have known about a few of them and failed to stop them.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Old n Grumpy on February 22, 2018, 04:02:48 PM
They make more and more laws and tougher punishments, then a high number of blacks and hispanics get caught up in the system and it is all put aside because it is racist. The same with the mental health problems, they don't want to stigmatize anyone so they go untreated and people die. then it is the guns fault.  :thatsright:
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: mrclose on February 23, 2018, 05:01:42 PM
:tinfoil2: More and more I'm beginning to wonder if the feds aren't letting these shootings happen. They have known about a few of them and failed to stop them.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/11/10/broward-county-florida-schools-institute-the-trayvon-martin-standard-for-studentpolice-avoidance/
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: thundley4 on February 23, 2018, 06:13:45 PM
School rules of discipline unfairly affect minorities, so we need to change them :rant:
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 24, 2018, 11:43:02 AM
FBI Tip-Line Caller Said Nikolas Cruz ‘Is Going to Explode’
https://www.wsj.com/articles/fbi-tip-line-caller-said-nikolas-cruz-is-going-to-explode-1519415442

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A person close to the teenager accused of killing 17 people at a Florida high school warned the FBI she was concerned he would “get into a school and just shoot the place up,” according to a transcript of her call with a bureau tip line operator more than a month before the massacre.

The transcript, reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, provides chilling detail about the woman’s efforts on Jan. 5 to warn authorities about Nikolas Cruz’s propensity for violence and his troubled past. The caller’s identification was redacted from the transcript, but the tip-line operator called her “ma’am.” (Read the transcript; redactions by FBI.)

“You know, it’s just so much,” she said on the call. “I know he’s—he’s going to explode.” She said she was making the call because she wanted a “clear conscience if he takes off and, and just starts shooting places up.”

The FBI really screwed up. They screwed up with Boston Marathon, USA Gymnastics, Las Vegas, and now this.  :mad:
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 24, 2018, 11:50:27 AM
Scot Peterson: School deputy goes from commended to vilified after Stoneman Douglas shooting
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-bz-florida-school-shooting-scot-peterson-20180223-story.html

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Branded a coward by the president. Vilified by his ex-boss. Duty-bound to protect Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

Scot R. Peterson, disgraced former Broward sheriff’s deputy, once characterized himself to be a strong, proactive law enforcement officer who would not shrink in the face of danger.

Yet the 33-year law enforcement veteran resigned on Thursday after withering criticism from Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel, who said the deputy stationed at the Parkland school should have confronted and killed the gunman in the Feb. 14 attack that left 17 dead.

The Broward County Sheriff has dropped the ball too many times with Nikolas Cruz.  :mad:
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 25, 2018, 10:15:33 PM
FL Shooting Survivor: Sheriff 'Virtue-Signaling Against the NRA', Must Resign After Officers' Inaction
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/02/25/parkland-shooting-survivor-slams-sheriff-nra-criticism-officer-inaction

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A survivor of the Florida school shooting spoke out against the Broward County sheriff as well as those who are injecting gun control politics into the tragedy.

Kyle Kashuv said Gov. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) and others have done "definitely enough" to bring attention to school safety issues.

He said the mental health issue is a "bipartisan" topic, and that people should be coming together rather than retreating to political corners.

Sheriff Scott Israel and all the sheriffs who screwed up should be removed and charged.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5740254202001/?#sp=show-clips
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 26, 2018, 08:14:05 AM
I found this on the Daily Caller site . . .

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CCW Weekend: Human Error More To Blame Than Guns In Mass Shootings

Guns and Gear

Contributor

10:19 AM 02/24/2018

 By Sam Hoober, Alien Gear Holsters

In the wake of another school shooting, there’s a new round of calls for gun reform, gun control, whatever one wants to call it. Once again, the fallacy that more gun laws will prevent atrocities from happening is being passed around social media, news networks and around water coolers across the country.

Curtailing our Second Amendment rights just isn’t going to be the answer. Mere access to guns alone doesn’t make such tragedies possible; after all, the worst school massacre in American history – the Bath School Disaster of 1927 – was carried out without a single shot being fired.

What seems to get lost in the shuffle is the role of human error in mass shootings, which is far larger than some people want to admit.

In the broad strokes, we know the gunman in Florida had mental health issues, and had been dealing with some very rough circumstances in his life. We know that he harbored or appeared to harbor extremist viewpoints. We know the family that took him in had no idea about any of it until it was all over.

We know that he was fascinated with school shootings and had been making comments online about wanting to carry one out. We also know the Federal Bureau of Investigation knew about it and did nothing.

Interesting, and refreshing, take.  You'll never see it in any 'mainstream' media.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/24/ccw-weekend-human-error-more-to-blame-than-guns-in-mass-shootings/

And, while we're at it . . .

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The AR-15, a Tool For Good. Nine Powerful Real Life Examples to Counter the Left’s Empty Rhetoric

Scott Morefield Posted: Feb 26, 2018 12:01 AM

When it comes to public relations, the much-maligned AR-15 has had a rough go of late. Blamed for everything from the bubonic plague to school shootings it was actually used in (because as we all know, it’s never the perpetrator), it would be easy to be duped into thinking the world would be a veritable paradise if only this particular scary looking “assault-weapon” were somehow legislated out of existence.

Granted, the lofty rhetoric employed by liberal politicians, gun control groups, and well-coached, albeit sympathetic Parkland students is sometimes difficult to defend. Despite the multiple failures at multiple agencies that could have prevented or at least mitigated his crime, the fact that killer Nikolas Cruz did indeed employ the weapon to murder 17 students in a place they should have felt safe is incontrovertible.

Which creates an ideal opportunity for the Left to employ the best tool at their disposal - rhetoric. And yes, especially when it’s skillfully employed by kids who might otherwise be engaged in playing video games and eating Tide pods, rhetoric can definitely be a powerful thing.

Which makes countering it even more important, but how? Sure, we could try - you know - facts, and they ARE on our side here. For example, even though it has admittedly been used in several high-profile school shootings of late, the AR-15’s involvement in overall crime in the United States is much less than the fear-mongers would have us think. Even NBC admits that “despite its use in many mass shootings, the popular AR-15 rifle accounts for relatively few murders,” - or, to be specific, significantly less than the 3 percent of overall firearm homicides rifles of all types accounted for in 2016. This, despite the over 15 million AR-style rifles in America today.

There’s more, of course, most of which has been covered exhaustively here on Townhall. But facts bolstered by statistics aren’t necessarily the best way to counter rhetoric. No, the best way for that is to use equal or more powerful rhetoric, and the good news is our side has plenty of that too.

The rest of this column is here:  https://townhall.com/columnists/scottmorefield/2018/02/26/the-ar15-a-tool-for-good-nine-powerful-real-life-examples-to-counter-the-lefts-empty-rhetoric-n2454199
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: SVPete on February 26, 2018, 10:56:28 AM
And the F#$%-Ups just keep on coming! https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/02/25/ems-first-responder-shares-harrowing-account-of-how-botched-florida-shooting-response-was

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“We were asking to go in. Asking the scene commander to go in. Why are we all standing around? Why are we not having patients to treat? Why are we not going into the building and retrieving these kids? The response every time was law enforcement did not clear the scene and would not allow medical personnel to go in,” he added.

The EMS worker believes that if he and other medical responders were allowed to enter the building as soon as they arrived, they could have saved more lives. He explained he was willing to risk his life to save the lives of others and was very frustrated over the situation.

The EMS worker stressed that he believes law enforcement made the decision they thought was best at the time, but emphasized that he believes it was the wrong one.

“They should have been more aggressive about getting the victims out,” he said.

This is a conflict of training (or maybe lack of Sheriff Deputy training). Sending in the EMS people with a couple of officers providing covering fire (as needed) might have saved the lives of students who bled to death. Or maybe not. But the Sheriff Deputies didn't give them the chance to take the risk the EMS people were willing to take to have a chance to save lives.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 26, 2018, 11:09:58 AM
And the F#$%-Ups just keep on coming! https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/02/25/ems-first-responder-shares-harrowing-account-of-how-botched-florida-shooting-response-was

This is a conflict of training (or maybe lack of Sheriff Deputy training). Sending in the EMS people with a couple of officers providing covering fire (as needed) might have saved the lives of students who bled to death. Or maybe not. But the Sheriff Deputies didn't give them the chance to take the risk the EMS people were willing to take to have a chance to save lives.

There's something else, Pete . . .

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Broward County Sheriff Won’t Issue His Deputies Long Guns To Defend Public

Deputy Matt

Deputy Sheriff

2:46 PM 02/25/2018

It has been a little more than a week since the horrific shooting in Parkland, FL and as more becomes known about what lead up to that shooting, it is proving itself to be a tragically perfect example of government’s total failure, in fact its inability to keep people safe. Getting beyond the mistakes that were made by multiple agencies on many levels, getting beyond the cowardice of one or more responding cops, we need to look at another aspect of this horrible incident. Since so many people from students to school administrators, to the Sheriff of Broward County, all the way up to lawmakers on the federal level are screaming for more gun control, let’s take a close look at the effect that existing gun policies played in this incident.

Since Sheriff Scott Israel has seen fit to very publicly scream for gun control himself, and done so in the most unprofessional manner I can imagine, ripping into people who disagree with his point of view like an emotional teenager, all on national television, so I’ll start with him.  Broward County Sheriff’s Office is a very large Sheriff’s department with, according to their website, more than 5,800 employees (includes sworn and non-sworn).  Their annual budget is $730M.  That is a very big local department by almost any standard.

Would it surprise you to find out that the Broward County Sheriff’s Office does not issue rifles to their patrol cops?  It sure as hell surprised me!  What year is this?  In this day and age, it is practically criminal to not supply your street cops with a rifle.  (Broward deputies can buy their own rifle if they desire, but the department does not issue them.)

I thought the North Hollywood Bank Robbery in 1997 taught us all that cops needed long guns?  I would think that all of the recent mass shooting incidents that our news media sees fit to talk about 24/7 for weeks on end would have taught us all that.  I would think that all of the changes in training and tactics for law enforcement over the last 20+ years would have taught us all that.  But apparently none of that got through to Scott Israel, since he refuses to issue rifles to his street cops.

Now, before anyone jumps up and claims I have no idea what is involved in providing rifles to an entire department, let me assure you I do.  I happen to work for a large agency, although not as large as Broward County, and I have worked in an administrative position on my department where my job was providing equipment for all of our patrol deputies.  I understand perfectly the difficulties in providing equipment for a large agency.  And yes, it is a much different beast than providing tools for a smaller agency.  Buying 10 of something is much different than buying 500, or 1,000 of the same thing.  I understand perfectly that there is a significant cost in trying to put a rifle in every patrol officer’s hands, but not in this case.  The Broward County Sheriff could get all the rifles they want from the Federal 1033 program 100% free.  Zero, nada, nothing.   Instead the man in charge, the man with whom the buck stops, Sheriff Scott Israel chose not to put rifles in the hands of his deputies, but why?

That's a very good question--one which is answered in the next paragraph.  But, you have to go to the link to read it.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/25/broward-county-sheriff-wont-issue-his-deputies-long-guns-to-defend-public/
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: SVPete on February 26, 2018, 12:14:03 PM
IOW, the DU-folk who defended the deputy who did not go into the school building because a handgun vs. a rifle would be suicidal - a gross and stupid over-simplification - were (unknowingly) citing a situation created by Sheriff Israel and (probably) the local school district.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: DefiantSix on February 26, 2018, 01:06:30 PM
IOW, the DU-folk who defended the deputy who did not go into the school building because a handgun vs. a rifle would be suicidal - a gross and stupid over-simplification - were (unknowingly) citing a situation created by Sheriff Israel and (probably) the local school district.

Yup.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: dixierose on February 27, 2018, 06:59:38 AM
IOW, the DU-folk who defended the deputy who did not go into the school building because a handgun vs. a rifle would be suicidal - a gross and stupid over-simplification - were (unknowingly) citing a situation created by Sheriff Israel and (probably) the local school district.

How did the deputy know what kind of gun he was "going against" if he never went into the building.....
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: SVPete on February 27, 2018, 07:32:11 AM
How did the deputy know what kind of gun he was "going against" if he never went into the building.....

That's the thing. DU-folks' hypothetical going in blind scenario assumes several things that are not realistic: that the deputy knows what kind of gun Cruz had (he may have, hearing the sound of the shots); that the deputy would stupidly run in without surveying what he could see; would be be instantly visible; in an open space; fully exposed. They don't know what reality was - open doors and rooms, turns in the hallway, lockers, stuff and people on the ground. They just assume and talk ignorantly, with no one caring to call out their ignorance.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Old n Grumpy on February 27, 2018, 08:42:05 AM
Most of these shooters are cowards, that's why they pick gun free zones and schools. If he went in and just popped off a couple of rounds the guy may have given up.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: SVPete on February 27, 2018, 01:41:43 PM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-florida-school-shooting-lawsuit-video-broward-sheriff-20180226-story.html

Media companies sue for security videos from exterior of Stoneman Douglas building

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The South Florida Sun Sentinel, The Miami Herald and CNN filed the civil lawsuit in Broward Circuit Court, citing Florida’s public records law. The lawsuit names the Broward Sheriff’s Office and the School Board of Broward County, as well as Sheriff Scott Israel and Superintendent Robert Runcie, in their official roles, as defendants.

The lawsuit seeks access to video from cameras outside the Parkland school on the day of the shooting and cites the “extreme public interest” in figuring out precisely what happened.
...
The sheriff’s office and school district have declined to release the video to the public, saying the footage could reveal a security system plan; that the video is part of an ongoing criminal investigation related to Cruz; and that it is part of an internal affairs investigation of Peterson.

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Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 27, 2018, 02:12:48 PM
And a "possibly"-related consequence . . .

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Gun Sales Surge After Florida School Shooting

by Tyler Durden 

Tue, 02/27/2018 - 14:23

A North Florida gun store owner says firearms sales surged more than 33% compared to February last year, indicating Floridians are concerned the erosion of the Second Amendment is imminent in the wake of the Parkland shooting.

"The last couple of weeks have been very busy," John Garner, gun store owner told WYFF News 4. "Guns are political. It doesn’t take much to spark an interest."

Garner has been selling guns for nearly 20-years. He told the WYFF investigative team that firearms sales have spiked in the past couple of weeks, after the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida. Garner even stated his sales are up 33% when compared to last February.

Garner further said the AR-15, 5.56×45mm, magazine-fed, gas-operated semi-automatic rifle, is the hottest item in the shop, selling more than 17 in two weeks.

As we noted, this past weekend’s gun show at the Florida State Fairgrounds, saw a record number of gun enthusiasts who were eager to get their hands on an AR-15 before the government bans assault-style rifles.

Personally, I'd like to get a Garand. :whistling:

The rest of this:  https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-27/gun-sales-surge-after-florida-school-shooting
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 28, 2018, 10:17:40 PM
Commanding officer initially ordered responding deputies to 'stage' not enter Stoneman Douglas, sources say
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/28/commanding-officer-initially-ordered-responding-deputies-to-stage-not-enter-stoneman-douglas-sources-say.html

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Fox News has learned that in the critical moments as first responding deputies were searching for an active shooter on the property of Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school, a commanding officer on scene apparently ordered some of the initial responders to “stage” and set up a “perimeter” outside -- instead of immediately ordering or allowing officers to rush in to neutralize the suspect, Nikolas Cruz.

“It’s atrocious,” a law enforcement source who was on the scene after the shooting told Fox News. “If deputies were staging it could have cost lives.”

The law enforcement source said responding deputies and officers were called to an active shooter scene in which they are trained to immediately “go, go, go” toward the direction of the shooter. “Every second is another life,” the source said.

The Broward County Sheriff really dropped the ball.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 01, 2018, 04:55:19 AM
Commanding officer initially ordered responding deputies to 'stage' not enter Stoneman Douglas, sources say
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/28/commanding-officer-initially-ordered-responding-deputies-to-stage-not-enter-stoneman-douglas-sources-say.html

The Broward County Sheriff really dropped the ball.

Ptarmy, he will never admit that.  It will take a civil decision, and a jury, to drive that point home.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Eupher on March 01, 2018, 12:22:57 PM
Ptarmy, he will never admit that.  It will take a civil decision, and a jury, to drive that point home.

Saw an interview between the cited turd and Jake Tapper (certifiably another turd), but Tapper calls out Turd #1 as pretty much an egoist and narcissist because Turd #1 says he exhibited "amazing leadership" throughout this entire travesty.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2018/02/25/broward-county-sheriff-scott-israel-sotu-responsibility-sot.cnn
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 01, 2018, 09:52:30 PM
Ptarmy, he will never admit that.  It will take a civil decision, and a jury, to drive that point home.

Exactly. So many crooks in Broward County.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 01, 2018, 10:10:03 PM
Report: Parkland Shooter Did Not Use High Capacity Magazines
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/report-parkland-shooter-did-not-use-high-capacity-magazines/

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The gunman used only 10-round magazines.

The Parkland shooter did not use magazines larger than 10 rounds, but gun reform lobbyists are calling on lawmakers to ban higher capacity magazines after the Valentine’s Day tragedy.

The 19-year-old school shooter who killed 17 in Florida on Valentine’s Day had 150 rounds of ammunition in 10-round magazines. Larger ones would not fit in his bag, Sen. Lauren Book, D-Plantation revealed.

So much for high capacity magazines being banned. Nikolas Cruz used 10 round clips.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Eupher on March 05, 2018, 04:23:19 AM
Report: Parkland Shooter Did Not Use High Capacity Magazines
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/report-parkland-shooter-did-not-use-high-capacity-magazines/

So much for high capacity magazines being banned. Nikolas Cruz used 10 round clips magazines.

FIFY
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 05, 2018, 10:05:03 PM
Broward sheriff's captain who gave initial order to 'stage' not enter Stoneman Douglas is ID'd
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/05/broward-sheriffs-captain-who-gave-initial-order-to-stage-not-enter-stoneman-douglas-is-idd.html

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The Broward County Sheriff’s Office has identified to Fox News the captain who, according to sources, directed responding deputies and units to “stage” or form a “perimeter” outside Stoneman Douglas High School, instead of rushing immediately into the building, as the mass shooting unfolded there.

Multiple law enforcement and official sources said the commands in the initial moments after Nikolas Cruz allegedly opened fire would go against all training which instructs first responders to “go, go, go” until the shooter is neutralized. As law enforcement arrived, the shooter’s identity and exact location were still unknown.

Multiple sources told Fox News that Captain Jan Jordan was the commanding officer on scene. In an email responding to Fox News’ request for information, a BSO spokesperson wrote, “Capt. Jordan’s radio call sign is 17S1.”

Looks like an Affirmative Action hire.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 05, 2018, 10:15:09 PM
When Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel Was Accused of Corruption, He Responded: 'Lions Don't Care About the Opinions of Sheep'
https://reason.com/blog/2018/02/23/broward-county-sheriff-scott-israel-accu

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Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel—the man whose agency failed to prevent the Parkland massacre despite having received a tip last November that Nikolas Cruz was plotting a mass shooting—has been accused of public corruption.

Two years ago, the Sun Sentinel reported that Israel was rewarding top political supporters by giving them and their family members cushy jobs doing public relations and community outreach for the Broward County Sheriff's Office. One such position, outreach manager, paid out a salary of $78,489. The person who got that job was the husband of Israel's campaign manager.

Nuff said.  :mental:
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: SVPete on March 09, 2018, 08:43:01 AM
Oh, for God's sake, Part 1: https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/03/08/disgraced-parkland-school-resource-officer-told-fellow-officers-to-stay-at-least-500-feet-away/

Oh, for God's sake, Part 2: https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/03/09/rotten-to-the-core-charles-c-w-cooke-lights-sheriff-israel-up-as-more-lies-and-parkland-fails-surface/

So much stupidity and incompetence surrounding the case has emerged that I'm tempted to think Scott Israel extincted the dinosaurs by failing to protect them from that meteor!
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 09, 2018, 10:56:05 AM
When Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel Was Accused of Corruption, He Responded: 'Lions Don't Care About the Opinions of Sheep'
https://reason.com/blog/2018/02/23/broward-county-sheriff-scott-israel-accu

Nuff said.  :mental:

He misspelled "Lyins'" . . . :whistling:
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Old n Grumpy on March 09, 2018, 03:04:27 PM
israel is a corrupt politician, not a LEO. He has misused public funds, hired and promoted a muslim with ties to cair, hammas and the muslim brotherhood. He won't iss ue rifles to the deputies and is totally anti 2nd amendment. He is corrupt, incompetent with a personal agenda and a disgrace to LEO's in general. He needs to burn in hell.  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 15, 2018, 10:58:12 PM
Broward Deputy Scot Peterson seen standing outside during Florida school shooting in new video
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/15/broward-deputy-scot-peterson-seen-standing-outside-during-florida-school-shooting-in-new-video.html

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Broward Deputy Scot Peterson stands safely behind a concrete wall taking no action as high school students lay dead and wounded just feet away, newly released video of the Florida school shooting shows.

The Broward Sheriff’s Office released the 27-minute video Thursday of the former longtime resource officer responding to initial reports of a shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School on Feb. 14. Peterson, who was assigned to the school and on site when the shooting began, is seen with a civilian security monitor at the start of the video, but spends most of the video standing outside the school with his gun drawn.

Scot Peterson dropped the ball big time. This thing stinks high heaven.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 18, 2018, 09:44:42 PM
Some wanted Parkland suspect Nikolas Cruz committed in 2016
https://www.local10.com/news/parkland-school-shooting/some-wanted-parkland-suspect-nikolas-cruz-committed-in-2016

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MIAMI - Officials were so concerned about the mental stability of the student accused of last month's Florida school massacre that they decided he should be forcibly committed.

But the recommendation was never acted upon.

The Broward County really screwed it up big time! The ball has been dropped too many times!
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: SVPete on March 19, 2018, 12:18:12 PM
This isn't directly relevant to the Parkland shooting, but it's another way in which the Broward County Sheriff's Department and the Broward County schools endangered their students.

Every sane parent who can should either transfer their kids into a private school with meaningful discipline or should commence homeschooling! Those schools are dangerous places for students who actually want to learn!
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: ADsOutburst on March 19, 2018, 05:37:31 PM
Remember how the police handled this situation the next time a gun control advocate tells you that you don't need a gun because you can hide and call the police.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 20, 2018, 08:00:22 AM
Remember how the police handled this situation the next time a gun control advocate tells you that you don't need a gun because you can hide and call the police.

Dead on, and H5 given. :cheersmate: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 29, 2018, 10:07:31 PM
Crazed girls flood Parkland school shooter Nikolas Cruz with fan mail
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-reg-nikolas-cruz-prison-love-letters-20180327-story.html

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Mass murderer Nikolas Cruz is getting stacks of fan mail and love letters sent to the Broward County jail, along with hundreds of dollars in contributions to his commissary account.

Teenage girls, women and even older men are writing to the Parkland school shooter and sending photographs — some suggestive — tucked inside cute greeting cards and attached to notebook paper with offers of friendship and encouragement. Groupies also are joining Facebook communities to talk about how to help the killer.

The South Florida Sun Sentinel obtained copies of some of the letters showing that Cruz, who had few friends in the outside world, is now being showered with attention.

There are some pretty crazy people out there. Killer groupies or known as hybristophilia.  :mental:
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: SVPete on March 30, 2018, 08:18:17 AM
Crazed girls flood Parkland school shooter Nikolas Cruz with fan mail
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-reg-nikolas-cruz-prison-love-letters-20180327-story.html

There are some pretty crazy people out there. Killer groupies or known as hybristophilia.  :mental:

I wonder if any of the older men might be DU-Denizens.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Eupher on March 30, 2018, 09:08:58 AM
I'd say "Stockholm Syndrome" but those lunatics wallowing at Cruz's feet haven't been held hostage.

Or have they?  :whatever:
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 30, 2018, 09:35:14 AM
I'd say "Stockholm Syndrome" but those lunatics wallowing at Cruz's feet haven't been held hostage.

Or have they?  :whatever:

My feeling is that any opposite-sex groupies of a murderer want to 'change' the murderer back to someone good, and feel that only they can do it.  I'm probably wrong. :whistling:
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Old n Grumpy on March 30, 2018, 01:22:30 PM
The fact that they are reporting that he has a "fan club" and is getting a lot of mail and support will only make some other warped ass hole want to go and do it too.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 31, 2018, 06:48:34 AM
The fact that they are reporting that he has a "fan club" and is getting a lot of mail and support will only make some other warped ass hole want to go and do it too.

Unfortunately, you are correct.  The next school shooter is planning his attacks right now.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Eupher on March 31, 2018, 12:18:03 PM
Unfortunately, you are correct.  The next school shooter is planning his attacks right now.

And frontmost on the turd's mind is, it's a gun free zone.

The gun grabbers have no clue, and they'll never get a clue.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Old n Grumpy on March 31, 2018, 01:09:17 PM
And frontmost on the turd's mind is, it's a gun free zone.

The gun grabbers have no clue, and they'll never get a clue.

They don't want a clue, they want our guns and freedom of speech. And they seem to be gaining ground. :mad: :mad: :mad:
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Zathras on March 31, 2018, 01:38:47 PM
And a "possibly"-related consequence . . .

Personally, I'd like to get a Garand. :whistling:

Good choice. When General Patton calls a weapon the greatest battle implement ever devised, you can't go wrong in wanting to purchase one.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 31, 2018, 02:52:36 PM
Good choice. When General Patton calls a weapon the greatest battle implement ever devised, you can't go wrong in wanting to purchase one.

Speaking of the 26th Colonel of the 3d Cavalry Regiment (IIRC), I saw today that the pearl-handled Colt SAAs in .45 Colt that he carried were mostly for show.  The "killing pistol," as he called it, was a Smith & Wesson Model 27 (yes, in .357 Magnum) with a 3" barrel.  Surprised me.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 31, 2018, 10:56:52 PM
The fact that they are reporting that he has a "fan club" and is getting a lot of mail and support will only make some other warped ass hole want to go and do it too.

Unfortunately, you are correct.  The next school shooter is planning his attacks right now.

Exactly. Giving these killers attention encourages the next one.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 31, 2018, 11:36:44 PM
My feeling is that any opposite-sex groupies of a murderer want to 'change' the murderer back to someone good, and feel that only they can do it.  I'm probably wrong. :whistling:

SF Gate-SF Gate-Killer groupies an unexplained mystery
http://articles.sfgate.com/2009-09-28/bay-area/17205505_1_doreen-lioy-san-quentin-state-prison-night-stalker
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 15, 2018, 04:09:31 PM
Broward School Violence: Cruz's Massacre Is Far From the Whole Story
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/04/10/sperrybroward_art.html

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Broward County, Fla., school officials portray as a great success their Obama administration-inspired program offering counseling to students who break the law, instead of having them arrested or expelled. They insist that it played no role in February’s school massacre by Nikolas Cruz. They also claim that in fact juvenile recidivism rates are down and school safety is up, thanks to the program.

The evidence tells a far different story.

Broward County juvenile justice division records, federal studies of Broward school district safety and the district's own internal reporting show that years of “intensive" counseling didn’t just fail to reform repeat offender Cruz, who allegedly went on to shoot and kill 17 people at his high school. Records show such policies have failed to curtail other campus violence and its effects now on the rise in district schools — including fighting, weapons use, bullying and related suicides.

Broward County is corrupt.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 15, 2018, 04:12:30 PM
How the NAACP and Broward County School Board are responsible for the Parkland Massacre and Trayvon Martin shooting   
http://drrichswier.com/2018/02/23/how-the-naacp-and-broward-county-school-board-are-responsible-for-the-parkland-massacre-and-trayvon-martin-shooting/

Related to the above link. Trayvon Martin and Nikolas Cruz had run ins with the police. They never were arrested.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: SVPete on April 15, 2018, 08:03:53 PM
Broward School Violence: Cruz's Massacre Is Far From the Whole Story
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/04/10/sperrybroward_art.html

Broward County is corrupt.

Thanks for bringing the article into this thread. Turns out that Cruz was the tip of a thug iceberg. Put another way, since the school and Sheriff people appear to have learned less than nothing from the shooting, Cruz may be but the first Broward County time bomb to explode.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: sneakypete1 on April 22, 2018, 11:37:42 AM
School superintendent just said multiple fatalities.

The link given now claims there were 16 students and a football coach murdered.

Florida needs to bring back Old Sparky and let this SOB do the "Reddi-Kilowatt Boogie" on videotape for every inmate at every holding institution,jail,or prison in the country,ESPECIALLY juvenile detention centers,to watch live if possible,and on video if not. Viewing should be MANDATORY.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: darroll on April 27, 2018, 01:42:20 PM

Every sane parent who can should either transfer their kids into a private school with meaningful discipline
Discipline is the word. The bullies and their friends get a kick out of tormenting a student until they crack and resort to violence.. If they report being bullied to a teacher, it gets a good laugh.
The government can't run our schools.
Title: Re: 1 Dead, Multiple Injured in Shooting at Douglas High School
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 13, 2018, 09:43:35 PM
School district shuts down information after Stoneman Douglas shooting
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-florida-school-shooting-district-stonewalling-20180510-story.html

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The Broward school district’s repeated, emphatic — and it turns out, false — statements that Nikolas Cruz had not been in a controversial disciplinary program fit a pattern of an institution on the defensive and under siege.

Facing significant legal and political exposure over the , the district has tried to keep information from the public and put out untrue and misleading statements, frustrating parents who say this is the time for maximum transparency.

The district is against the release of school surveillance video. It flatly refused to issue any records regarding the shooting to the news media, in a possible violation of the state’s open-records law. Superintendent Robert Runcie has blocked critics, including parents, from his Twitter account. More than two months after the shooting, a Broward Sheriff’s detective told a state commission on school safety that he was still waiting for the district to provide all of Cruz’s disciplinary records.

Broward School District is corrupt. They are hiding things.