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People Become More Liberal With Age
« on: March 11, 2008, 04:35:45 PM »
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People Become More Liberal With Age
Posted by varun on Tue Mar-11-08 02:46 PM

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March 10) - The stereotype of a cranky old man, set in his ways, getting more conservative by the day, is an enduring one. But new research has debunked the myth that people become more conservative as they age.

By comparing surveys of various age groups taken over a span of more than 30 years, sociologists found that in general, Americans' opinions veer toward the liberal as they grow older.

"All the evidence we have found refutes the idea that as people age their attitudes become more conservative or more rigid," said Nicholas Danigelis, a sociologist at the University of Vermont. "It's just not true. More people are changing in a liberal direction than in a conservative direction."

Danigelis and collaborators Stephen Cutler of the University of Vermont and Melissa Hardy of Pennsylvania State University analyzed data from the U.S. General Social Surveys of 46,510 Americans between 1972 and 2004. While the surveys did not provide data for the same individuals at different stages, they represented snapshots of the changing attitudes of respondents in different age cohorts over time. The researchers corrected for the fact that the age groups at different survey times are made of up new members with unique baseline opinions...


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I hope that is true.
Posted by murielm99 on Tue Mar-11-08 04:14 PM

But could it be the times? How could any older person with a sense of self-preservation back a conservative agenda in these times? Any non-rich older person, that is!

I have noticed all the older people at our Democratic events. Often they are the most liberal people there. I have to admit that surprised me.

I have told my children that if I get more conservative as I age, they should call me on it. I don't want to abandon my principles. My oldest daughter says I have nothing to worry about. She thinks I lean more to the left with each passing year.
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Re: People Become More Liberal With Age
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2008, 04:45:22 PM »
Long haired gray hippies never grew up.

This is news?

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Re: People Become More Liberal With Age
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2008, 06:05:04 PM »
Massive amounts of weed, shrooms and prescription drugs can cause someone to remain as braindead as a teenager?  No kidding!!    :whatever:
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Re: People Become More Liberal With Age
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2008, 09:15:44 PM »
It is a statistical FACT that people become more conservative once they get older and after they've entered the job market with the intention of succeeding.......which is anathema to the DUmmies.
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There's a reason why patriotism is considered a conservative value. Watch a Tea Party rally and you'll see people proudly raising the American flag and showing pride in U.S. heroes such as Thomas Jefferson. Watch an OWS rally and you'll see people burning the American flag while showing pride in communist heroes such as Che Guevera. --Bob, from some news site

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Re: People Become More Liberal With Age
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2008, 05:20:55 AM »
I question whether this actually distinguished "Liberal" and "Libertarian" successfully, took account of self-interest in the kinds of 'Liberal' programs supported, or where exactly the 30 years of samples came from (College freshman psych students at the drafter's university for the past 30 years?).
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Re: People Become More Liberal With Age
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2008, 06:36:18 AM »
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Danigelis and collaborators Stephen Cutler of the University of Vermont and Melissa Hardy of Pennsylvania State University analyzed data from the U.S. General Social Surveys of 46,510 Americans between 1972 and 2004. While the surveys did not provide data for the same individuals at different stages, they represented snapshots of the changing attitudes of respondents in different age cohorts over time. The researchers corrected for the fact that the age groups at different survey times are made of up new members with unique baseline opinions...

From the actual article.
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People might find an average 60-year-old to be more conservative than an average 30-year-old, Danigelis said, but beware of extrapolating a trend. The older person, for example, might have started off even more conservative than he or she is now.

I guess the way they corrected for it was to ignore the findings that contradicted the outcome they desired.  :whatever:
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Re: People Become More Liberal With Age
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2008, 07:35:46 AM »
Definition of a conservative:
A liberal that has been mugged by reality.
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Re: People Become More Liberal With Age
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2008, 08:14:47 AM »
The only thing I find is some who start off conservative tend to drift Libertarian with age -- very few have drifted to the moonbat wing of the libertarian party that Ive met.

They do not go from Conservative to DUmmy.. Ever.
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Re: People Become More Liberal With Age
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2008, 08:37:32 AM »
Tell another lie Pinnochio.
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Re: People Become More Liberal With Age
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2008, 08:41:56 AM »
This is just another study in liberal projection.  The goal of the study is to take what liberals want folks to believe, which isn't the truth, and make it common knowledge.

Remember the "study" which concluded conservatives are emotionally ill and unhappy people?  Can projection get any more blantant?  I don't think so.  Not even with this lastest attempt to fool the masses. 
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Re: People Become More Liberal With Age
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2008, 09:14:31 AM »
The only ones I see that drift to Liberal with age seemed to have experienced some sort of neurological event.
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Re: People Become More Liberal With Age
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2008, 09:42:09 AM »
Quote from: Lord Undies on March 12, 2008, 08:41:56 AM
Remember the "study" which concluded conservatives are emotionally ill and unhappy people?  Can projection get any more blantant?  I don't think so.  Not even with this lastest attempt to fool the masses. 

The study I remember stated the exact opposite.
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Re: People Become More Liberal With Age
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2008, 09:46:12 AM »
Quote from: Rebel on March 12, 2008, 09:42:09 AM
Quote from: Lord Undies on March 12, 2008, 08:41:56 AM
Remember the "study" which concluded conservatives are emotionally ill and unhappy people?  Can projection get any more blantant?  I don't think so.  Not even with this lastest attempt to fool the masses. 

The study I remember stated the exact opposite.

That means you missed this one:

http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york080103.asp

and then.....

http://www.stephenbainbridge.com/index.php/punditry/2004/10/P16/
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Re: People Become More Liberal With Age
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2008, 09:51:30 AM »
Quote from: Lord Undies on March 12, 2008, 09:46:12 AM
That means you missed this one:

http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york080103.asp

and then.....

http://www.stephenbainbridge.com/index.php/punditry/2004/10/P16/

Studies these days seem to be becoming more and more about conjecture than actual fact. Here's the one I was referring to:

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/301/are-we-happy-yet

Followed by a George Will column:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/261161_will01.html

All I have to do is read CC and Free Republic and contrast the two with DU to come to the correct conclusion.
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Re: People Become More Liberal With Age
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2008, 09:58:42 AM »
Quote from: Rebel on March 12, 2008, 09:51:30 AM
Quote from: Lord Undies on March 12, 2008, 09:46:12 AM
That means you missed this one:

http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york080103.asp

and then.....

http://www.stephenbainbridge.com/index.php/punditry/2004/10/P16/

Studies these days seem to be becoming more and more about conjecture than actual fact. Here's the one I was referring to:

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/301/are-we-happy-yet

Followed by a George Will column:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/261161_will01.html

All I have to do is read CC and Free Republic and contrast the two with DU to come to the correct conclusion.

Doesn't it warm your heart to know the Jost report was taxpayer funded?  Over one million dollars!  A lie bought and paid for.
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Re: People Become More Liberal With Age
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2008, 10:06:22 AM »
and one to disprove the DUmmie lie (as if) -

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0811,374064,374064,1.html/full

deserves it's own thread so I'll make one.
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