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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Texacon on June 28, 2022, 06:32:59 PM
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216864892
I think this thread is where they start realizing their new darling of the committee may not be what they think … on my phone so only bringing the OP over, and there’s another thread on this.
Totally Tunsie
Peter Alexander of NBC is reporting both the limo driver and tRump's Security Chief
are prepared to testify that the reported incident in the limo DID NOT occur. This was on Lester Holt's broadcast at 6:30. Stay tuned.
This actually goes along with a thought I had earlier today - that much of what Cassidy Hutchinson testified today was hearsay...things she was TOLD about, but didn't actually witness, i.e. limo incident, food throwing. She saw the aftermaths only and is relying on someone else describing the actual incidents. Don't get me wrong - I believe her as far as what she may have been told and find her credible, but this is a huge loophole in her testimony.
KC
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I saw that on Twitter
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Something about Trump grabbing the steering wheel of the limo. Dang. He must have some really, really, long arms. :rotf:
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Arrived home and caught the last 10 minutes of Bret Baier's nightly news show, and he said acknowledged that Peter Alexander (lib-NBC) and Fox's own David Spunt had confirmed that this was entire Bravo Sierra.
If this were an actual trial with defense counsel, anything that woman (although I'm not a biologist) said was heresay and should be disallowed.
Anyway DUmmies:
:nelson:
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A few select nuggets from the DUmp thread:
Mike Nelson (8,893 posts)
12. Hmm...
... seems weird that the committee would highlight an incident that did not occur! I would have made sure the incident happened, or leave it off my list of questions. The committee is full of intelligent people... how could this happen?
Star Member crazylikafox (2,625 posts)
17. Why would we necessarily believe the secret service?
They supported Trump. Remember Biden replaced Trump’s secret service detail when he came in office?
Star Member DemocratSinceBirth (97,773 posts)
18. Do you really think the committee members are so stupid they didn't corroborate her testimony?
"C'mon, man."
Yes, yes I do.
Star Member riversedge (63,808 posts)
33. Here is the actual tweet from Peter Alexander........
lots of comments but Peter has not responded back
@PeterAlexander
🚨 A source close to the Secret Service tells me both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the presidential limousine/SUV driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel.
5:24 PM · Jun 28, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
Star Member Mr.Bill (16,955 posts)
39. So...
unnamed source. For now I will go with person testifying on national TV under oath. For now.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Arrived home and caught the last 10 minutes of Bret Baier's nightly news show, and he said acknowledged that Peter Alexander (lib-NBC) and Fox's own David Spunt had confirmed that this was entire Bravo Sierra.
If this were an actual trial with defense counsel, anything that woman (although I'm not a biologist) said was heresay and should be disallowed.
Anyway DUmmies:
:nelson:
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Thanks Ralph.
Some of them are smelling the stench of the bullshit and aren’t liking it.
I think there was a lot of embellishment to her story it just a lot of hearsay.
I thought I read these people weren’t being put under oath, but I have a job and can’t watch the circus .. uh committee hearings.
KC
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One of them even posted basically they didn’t care if it was true or not. They stayed since this is being tried in the court of public opinion they were fine with lies.
There’s another thread over there about gerrymandering where one of them is openly trying to get ideas in how to commit voter fraud.
Fine upstanding people that they are.
KC
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This is kinda tangential to what the DUmp Monkies are spooging themselves over in this thread, but it's in the same vein of absolute chicanery going on in "The Committee".
Liz Cheney puts up a MEAN TWEET that directly contradicts the assertion she was trying to make... (https://youtu.be/YkHBoa1djoA)
This whole shit show is a joke of cosmic proportions...
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Sweet Momma. Its getting good. A few different threads now. I think they see this nothingburger for what it is. Already making excuses..
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They may be prepared to testify but Democrats are in charge. All exculpatory evidence will be squashed and never revealed.
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... seems weird that the committee would highlight an incident that did not occur! I would have made sure the incident happened, or leave it off my list of questions. The committee is full of intelligent people... how could this happen?
No, it's not weird. To this day, there are democrats who decry the killing of a security guard by the rioters, which... didn't happen.
18. Do you really think the committee members are so stupid they didn't corroborate her testimony?
"C'mon, man."
At this point, it's pellucidly clear they don't care what's true and what isn't.
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No, it's not weird. To this day, there are democrats who decry the killing of a security guard by the rioters, which... didn't happen.
At this point, it's pellucidly clear they don't care what's true and what isn't.
To quote George Costanza, "It's not a lie, if you believe it."
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Something about Trump grabbing the steering wheel of the limo. Dang. He must have some really, really, long arms. :rotf:
And the ability to phase through solid matter like Kitty Pride of the X-Men. The passenger compartment and driver's compartment of The Beast are two seperate spaces with no passage between them.
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Let's be honest, how unlikely is it that Liz Cheney never rode in the beast as the daughter of a two-term vice president? Wouldn't this technically show that she is LYING to the American people for a political agenda? She KNOWS how damn implausible that story was yet said nothing.
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Anyone who fell for this Keanu Reeves movie tale is an absolute cretin. Every single word she said was laughable, including the dripping ketchup.
From the thread:
Star Member TheRealNorth (6,050 posts)
7. Maybe she was a plant
To try to discredit the J6 Committee. Spread some easily-disprovable shit that she was "told" had happened (thus getting her off from perjury), while mixing in some truth so that the Republicans could try to discredit everything.
I could see that happening.
Of course! Everything is a false flag operation to these morons.
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Anyone who fell for this Keanu Reeves movie tale is an absolute cretin. Every single word she said was laughable, including the dripping ketchup.
It was a bouncy that made it into congressional testimony.
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Mike Nelson (8,893 posts)
12. Hmm...
... seems weird that the committee would highlight an incident that did not occur!
No that is the entirety and sole purpose of the Stalinist kangaroo committee, to highlight an incident that did not occur.
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Mike Nelson (8,893 posts)
12. Hmm...
... seems weird that the committee would highlight an incident that did not occur! I would have made sure the incident happened, or leave it off my list of questions. The committee is full of intelligent people... how could this happen?
Let me explain:
1. Americans weren't interested in Pelosiroo's previous Kangaroo Kourt proceedings, and mostly ignored the proceedings.
2. NBA playoffs and championship games got more viewers. (I wonder how many SF Bay Area DU-folk watched the Warriors' games instead of Pelosiroo's Kangaroo Kourt proceedings)
3. NHL playoffs and championship games got more viewers.
4. Pelosiroo's Kangaroo Kourtiers hyped highly dubious incendiary testimony to try to grab ratings, and just as with Dan Blather's Memogate fiasco, the incendiary testimony got doused by reality in less than 14 hours, :rotf: . I wonder whether the star of their shit-show got handed a script and a promise she would not be prosecuted for perjury.
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No that is the entirety and sole purpose of the Stalinist kangaroo committee, to highlight an incident that did not occur.
Reminds me a bit of when Harry Reid claimed that Mitt Romney didn't file his taxes, sans proof. The allegation was more important than facts, because who needs facts when one has an outrageous claim.
Kingmaker James Clyburn also infamously said this:
House Majority Whip James Clyburn defends Democrats who jumped on Thursday's Buzzfeed story that was debunked by special counsel Robert Mueller's office by noting that they all qualified their statements with, "if this is true."
"When you preface your statement with 'if this is true,' that, to me, gives you all the cover you need," Clyburn said on FOX News Sunday. "If they had said something as if it were true, then that would be one thing to be concerned about, but they've all said, 'if this is true.'"
LINKY (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/01/20/clyburn_if_you_preface_statement_with_if_this_is_true_that_gives_you_all_the_cover_you_need.html)
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Reminds me a bit of when Harry Reid claimed that Mitt Romney didn't file his taxes, sans proof. The allegation was more important than facts, because who needs facts when one has an outrageous claim.
Kingmaker James Clyburn also infamously said this:
House Majority Whip James Clyburn defends Democrats who jumped on Thursday's Buzzfeed story that was debunked by special counsel Robert Mueller's office by noting that they all qualified their statements with, "if this is true."
"When you preface your statement with 'if this is true,' that, to me, gives you all the cover you need," Clyburn said on FOX News Sunday. "If they had said something as if it were true, then that would be one thing to be concerned about, but they've all said, 'if this is true.'"
LINKY (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/01/20/clyburn_if_you_preface_statement_with_if_this_is_true_that_gives_you_all_the_cover_you_need.html)
Don’t forget that when Harry Reid was asked about that false claim and pointed out it was a LIE, his simple response was “it worked didn’t it?”
KC
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From https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/06/today-at-the-show-trial.php , after pointing out how implausible Hutchinson’s testimony was and that the driver and Secret Service agent were prepared to contradict her under oath:
Let’s see if the young Ms. Hutchinson ends up with a book deal in a few months.
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Don’t forget that when Harry Reid was asked about that false claim and pointed out it was a LIE, his simple response was “it worked didn’t it?”
KC
True, hadn't heard that mentioned since Rush passed away. He loved ripping apart Dingy Harry.
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:ohmy:
NBC News: Secret Service officially announces agents ready to testify -- and dispute Hutchinson hearsay; Update: Another discrepancy?
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2022/06/29/nbc-news-secret-service-announces-agents-ready-to-testify-and-dispute-hutchinson-hearsay-n479556 (https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2022/06/29/nbc-news-secret-service-announces-agents-ready-to-testify-and-dispute-hutchinson-hearsay-n479556)
What a clusterfark, and what an avoidable clusterfark. The House Select Committee on January 6 had a good eyewitness in Cassidy Hutchinson, and had they stuck with what Hutchinson had personally witnessed, yesterday would have been their biggest step forward.
Instead, they decided to have her roam into the realm of hearsay, and it’s going to blow up in their faces. Allahpundit noted yesterday that sources were reporting that Donald Trump’s Secret Service detail was prepared to take the unprecedented step of publicly testifying about Trump’s actions while under their care. This morning, the Secret Service made it official — they want to be heard:
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Update: That may not be the only challenge to Hutchinson’s credibility. And this one goes to Hutchinson’s direct testimony, not hearsay from ABC News):
Former Trump White House lawyer Eric Herschmann is claiming that a handwritten note regarding a potential statement for then-President Donald Trump to release during the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol was written by him during a meeting at the White House that afternoon, and not by White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson, sources familiar with the matter tell ABC News.
At Tuesday’s Jan. 6 committee hearing, Rep. Liz Cheney displayed a handwritten note which Hutchinson testified she wrote after Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows handed her a note card and pen to take his dictation.
Sources familiar with the matter said that Herschmann had previously told the committee that he had penned the note.
1. Two full kudos to NBC News and ABC News for honesty when most of their people wish Hutchinson's claims are true.
2. I am quite surprised LIEden's string-pullers didn't order all Secret Service and other staff people with Trump that day to STFU.
3. Hutchinson got caught in a lie, and in the stage-crafting of Pelosiroo's Kangaroo Kourt proceeding, Prime RINO Liz Cheney made hersel an accomplice in Hutchinson's lie, :rotf: .
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Mike Nelson (8,893 posts)
12. Hmm...
... seems weird that the committee would highlight an incident that did not occur! I would have made sure the incident happened, or leave it off my list of questions. The committee is full of intelligent people... how could this happen?
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What is extremely telling is that the J6 committee isn't actually calling anyone to refute the testimony. Seems they prefer to let the lies stand undisputed in the Congressional record. They said they will invite those who know what happened but it doesn't seem to be happening. They scheduled this hearing out of the blue cause they thought they had the goods on Trump. Turns out they only had a sack of nothing burgers.
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To quote a famous movie, the media/leftists and DUmmies need to stop trying to make fetch happen.
Images of the media and the kangaroo committee:
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I watched clips of the committee 'hearings' last night and I have to be honest, I thought Cassidy AND Liz came off as totally unbelievable. It looked like they were in a high school play and had been told to have facial expressions of "the cat that ate the canary."
What I saw was absolutely ridiculous, but they got it out there. I don't think it's going to help them, but they got it out there and now if/when the red tsunami comes, they won't be able to say they 'couldn't' get it out so the public didn't know. It was completely their dog and pony show. They can't blame it on anyone else.
KC
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I watched clips of the committee 'hearings' last night and I have to be honest, I thought Cassidy AND Liz came off as totally unbelievable. It looked like they were in a high school play and had been told to have facial expressions of "the cat that ate the canary."
What I saw was absolutely ridiculous, but they got it out there. I don't think it's going to help them, but they got it out there and now if/when the red tsunami comes, they won't be able to say they 'couldn't' get it out so the public didn't know. It was completely their dog and pony show. They can't blame it on anyone else.
KC
They're grasping at the proverbial straws, because nothing else is going right in the country for the Democrat party to campaign on. The left and media (but I repeat myself) despise President Trump and this placates the slobbering leftist base.
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Response to Totally Tunsie (Original post)Tue Jun 28, 2022, 07:09 PM
Star Member TheRealNorth (6,123 posts)
7. Maybe she was a plant
To try to discredit the J6 Committee. Spread some easily-disprovable shit that she was "told" had happened (thus getting her off from perjury), while mixing in some truth so that the Republicans could try to discredit everything.
I could see that happening.
Classic Rovian dirty trick to discredit the stalwart public servants of the J6 committee.
Biden is the one known for getting into scuffles with Secret Service agents:
Flashback: Former Joe Biden Secret Service Agent: We Had to Protect Women From Him, ‘Weinstein Level Stuff’
By Cassandra Fairbanks
Published March 29, 2020 at 9:31am
313 Comments
Speaking on the condition of anonymity, the agent asserted that, “We had to cancel the VP Christmas get together at the Vice President’s house because Biden would grope all of our wives and girlfriend’s asses.” The annual party was for agents and Navy personnel who were tasked with protecting the Biden family.
“He would mess with every single woman or teen. It was horrible,” the agent said.
TRENDING: Biden Takes Aim at America's Largest Oil Field, Threatens to Stop Production, Sending Gas Prices Soaring
According to the source, a Secret Service agent once got suspended for a week in 2009 for shoving Biden after he cupped his girlfriend’s breast while the couple was taking a photo with him. The situation got so heated, the source told Cassandra Fairbanks, that others had to step in to prevent the agent from hitting the then-Vice President.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/flashback-former-joe-biden-secret-service-agent-we-had-to-protect-women-from-him-weinstein-level-stuff/
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What is extremely telling is that the J6 committee isn't actually calling anyone to refute the testimony. Seems they prefer to let the lies stand undisputed in the Congressional record. They said they will invite those who know what happened but it doesn't seem to be happening. They scheduled this hearing out of the blue cause they thought they had the goods on Trump. Turns out they only had a sack of nothing burgers.
The Twitter morons (yes, I ventured over there) are lapping it up. I actually saw one say something like "The people who say Trump is guilty have testified under oath, and the people who say he's innocent haven't". Gee, it's almost like the committee hears the people it wants to hear from, and no one else.
Another said "[Hutchinson] was THERE, and [Trump's defenders] haven't refuted what she said". :whatever: :thatsright: :mental:
Of course, it all seems believable to them,, since it falls right in line with all the other absurdities they believe about Trump.
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Jan. 6 Committee Says Cassidy Hutchinson Told Them That She Heard Mark Meadows Say That A Secret Service Agent’s Friend’s Cousin’s Husband Once Heard That One Of Trump’s Other Aides Said She Thinks She Heard Him Say He Wanted To 'Do An Insurrection'
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WASHINGTON, D.C. - The walls are closing in on former President Trump. In an explosive bombshell unprecedented star witness testimony yesterday, Cassidy Hutchinson told everyone that she heard Mark Meadows say that a Secret Service agent's friend's cousin's husband once heard that one of Trump's other aides said she thinks she heard him say he wanted to "do an insurrection."
"Yes, that's totally what I heard someone say Trump said to someone who told it to them," said Cassidy Hutchinson. "He literally said 'Let's do an insurrection.' And then he threw a plate at the bust of Martin Luther King." Hutchinson then started sobbing uncontrollably.
The committee confirmed that the Secret Service agent's friend's cousin's husband who heard the aide say what she thought she heard is "an upstanding witness of the most unassailable character."
"This is looking really bad," said conservative folk hero Adam Kinzinger. "This might finally be the beginning of the end for Trump, who we are discovering was the evilest president to ever be elected." Kinzinger then started sobbing uncontrollably.
The hearings are expected to heat up even more next week when the committee brings in Johnny Depp to testify - according to sources close to Johnny Depp's agent's cleaning lady's great aunt.
It BEE fake but accurate news (https://babylonbee.com/news/jan-6-committee-says-cassidy-hutchinson-told-them-that-she-heard-mark-meadows-say-that-a-secret-service-agents-friends-cousins-husband-once-heard-that-one-of-trumps-other-aides-said-she-think)
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Jan. 6 Committee Says Cassidy Hutchinson Told Them That She Heard Mark Meadows Say That A Secret Service Agent’s Friend’s Cousin’s Husband Once Heard That One Of Trump’s Other Aides Said She Thinks She Heard Him Say He Wanted To 'Do An Insurrection'
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WASHINGTON, D.C. - The walls are closing in on former President Trump. In an explosive bombshell unprecedented star witness testimony yesterday, Cassidy Hutchinson told everyone that she heard Mark Meadows say that a Secret Service agent's friend's cousin's husband once heard that one of Trump's other aides said she thinks she heard him say he wanted to "do an insurrection."
"Yes, that's totally what I heard someone say Trump said to someone who told it to them," said Cassidy Hutchinson. "He literally said 'Let's do an insurrection.' And then he threw a plate at the bust of Martin Luther King." Hutchinson then started sobbing uncontrollably.
The committee confirmed that the Secret Service agent's friend's cousin's husband who heard the aide say what she thought she heard is "an upstanding witness of the most unassailable character."
"This is looking really bad," said conservative folk hero Adam Kinzinger. "This might finally be the beginning of the end for Trump, who we are discovering was the evilest president to ever be elected." Kinzinger then started sobbing uncontrollably.
The hearings are expected to heat up even more next week when the committee brings in Johnny Depp to testify - according to sources close to Johnny Depp's agent's cleaning lady's great aunt.
It BEE fake but accurate news (https://babylonbee.com/news/jan-6-committee-says-cassidy-hutchinson-told-them-that-she-heard-mark-meadows-say-that-a-secret-service-agents-friends-cousins-husband-once-heard-that-one-of-trumps-other-aides-said-she-think)
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KC