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Offline Splashdown

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Re: Kiss UAW votes bye-bye.
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2009, 07:25:29 AM »
Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on March 31, 2009, 07:17:05 AM
Horseshit!*

There are far too many union votes to risk losing to allow that to happen. Nor will the government allow these companies to fold which would be an admission the centralized planning and control schemes were wrong. The UAW workers will be paid with taxpayer money--probably with raises and expanded benefits--even if GM and Chrysler can't sell another car. We are not witnessing the government's destruction of a major industry, we are witnessing the creation of a massive new welfare project.

I dare anyone to argue to the contrary.



* not mad at you, just mad

Agree. "teh messiah" fired the CEO of GM. Any word on the president of the UAW?   :whatever:
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Re: Kiss UAW votes bye-bye.
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2009, 09:07:05 AM »
Quote from: Carl on March 31, 2009, 06:18:39 AM
Call me cynical but O has shown over and over again that he says one thing (reduce the deficit) while doing the opposite (sign on to trillions in new spending).
He has also shown that political ideology trumps common sense so my gut feeling is that as time goes along union workers will be given essentially a guaranteed gov funded job.

Perhaps I will be proven wrong but until I see it I don`t believe O will do anything to harm the UAW.
They will completely nationalize the US auto industry first....it is well on its way to that already.

The govt has apparently ordered them to stop work on the Volt, improve mileage (smaller deathtraps) and stop making SUV/trucks which make up 11 of their 20 profitable vehicles. GM is finished.
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Re: Kiss UAW votes bye-bye.
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2009, 09:53:24 AM »
Quote from: FGL on March 31, 2009, 09:07:05 AM
The govt has apparently ordered them to stop work on the Volt, improve mileage (smaller deathtraps) and stop making SUV/trucks which make up 11 of their 20 profitable vehicles. GM is finished.

......as a private company.
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Re: Kiss UAW votes bye-bye.
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2009, 10:09:59 AM »
Quote from: FGL on March 30, 2009, 09:50:03 PM
A very large number of UAW members are about to be unemployed

They voted themselves into that situation.
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Re: Kiss UAW votes bye-bye.
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2009, 04:40:22 AM »
Okay, here's what I think is going to happen. Obama is going to end up keeping his hands clean by having this get to the point where GM has to file Bankruptcy. Otherwise, going ahead and saying that the g'ment is backing warranties, doesn't make sense. He's setting the stage. O.k., so after they file, it will be some random judge who will force the unions to tear up contracts and make concessions, and the big O won't be the bad guy. This is all a move for the O gang to come in and place the people they want in they board of dir. and remake this into a greencartopia. They will then make cars that no one wants, but due to stricter demands on regs, incentives, rebates, and the rising gas price, (I say gas is at 4 dollars by May/June), they will insure that people buy Obama Motors mobiles. I think this may be pretty close to what we see, I really do. Make no mistake, I watched the lil dog and pony show with the new head of GM, yesterday. He KNOWS he is owned by Obama.This will not end well. Also, how in the farkin sark is GM offering to pay payments for folks who lose their job for one year? Uh, THEY ARE BROKE! Also, notice how Chrysler got thrown to the wolves? Fiat was downgraded to junk bond status today. This is all kinds of rotten.  :thatsright:
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Re: Kiss UAW votes bye-bye.
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2009, 10:32:20 AM »
Quote from: happy1ga on April 01, 2009, 04:40:22 AM
Okay, here's what I think is going to happen. Obama is going to end up keeping his hands clean by having this get to the point where GM has to file Bankruptcy. Otherwise, going ahead and saying that the g'ment is backing warranties, doesn't make sense. He's setting the stage. O.k., so after they file, it will be some random judge who will force the unions to tear up contracts and make concessions, and the big O won't be the bad guy. This is all a move for the O gang to come in and place the people they want in they board of dir. and remake this into a greencartopia. They will then make cars that no one wants, but due to stricter demands on regs, incentives, rebates, and the rising gas price, (I say gas is at 4 dollars by May/June), they will insure that people buy Obama Motors mobiles. I think this may be pretty close to what we see, I really do. Make no mistake, I watched the lil dog and pony show with the new head of GM, yesterday. He KNOWS he is owned by Obama.This will not end well. Also, how in the farkin sark is GM offering to pay payments for folks who lose their job for one year? Uh, THEY ARE BROKE! Also, notice how Chrysler got thrown to the wolves? Fiat was downgraded to junk bond status today. This is all kinds of rotten.  :thatsright:

Nope. Obama will now "control" the bankruptcy process. protecting the UAW. The Obama will also be appointing the next Board of Directors of Government Motors.
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