Who said it was moral? History is what it is. It cannot be changed. Every piece of history has brought us to where we are now, good and bad. I cannot see how a black person, who is allowed an independent thought in my world, understanding what got him to where he is in life and appreciating the sacrifices that got him here is a bad thing. I think it's a pretty intelligent way to think about something you cannot possibly change anyway.
Good point, but I don't really think I can have appreciation for the dark side of why I'm free today. Other people had to suffer. I think that might be how some blacks feel.
Prove that liberals are poison? You have to be kidding. It would be the utmost in redundancy. You and I both know the modern liberal ideology is based almost word for word on the Communist manifesto. How can liberals not be poison to free people? Why don't you prove they aren't. Give me a "for instance", outside of their illogical war on individual morality and unending promotion of sexual deviancy, when a liberal pet cause has been about an individual freedom.
I think liberal ideas existed before the Communist manifesto. Think of the countries in which their values were based on a "we" and not an "I" basis. Take care of the collective. Don't do anything that is harmful to the collective because it's "selfish". I think that's had a lot to do with *some* leftist ideas.
"I" isn't completely a bad thing. Individuals can be hurt to help the collective at times. Many people believe there should be a mixture of the two ideas in politics.
Next, it needs to be made clear that conservativism is typically about wanting things to stay the same or wanting to go back to a time when things were supposedly better. It's not about wanting a change that will change society forever. It's about wanting things to stay the same. Liberals are the ones who tend to say that change can be a good thing. In the United States, Capitalism is considered to be a conservative position, while Socialism is a liberal one. That's because Socialism would be a change to society. In Europe, the idea of having a lot of Capitalism and not relying on the government is actually the liberal position, from where the idea of relying on the government is actually the conservative position. So conservativism is about wanting things to stay the same, not about change most of the time.
Individual pet causes about freedom. Women's rights. Most conservatives agree with it, but they'll bash the heck out of the people who fought for it the most. Conservativism is about keeping things the same, not changing them. Therefore, women's rights used to be a liberal concept. It's not so much one now since a lot of freedom was won and feminists (economically on the left and the right) are now arguing about which direction to go in next. For the north, anti-slavery was a conservative position because that's what they all supposedly believed in. In the south, anti-slavery was a liberal position because that's asking for a change. Asking for blacks to have their individual rights in the 1960s and 1950s was not about wanting to keep things the same. Therefore, it wasn't a conservative position. It was a liberal one. Now, it's a conservative and a liberal one.
