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What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« on: October 04, 2011, 07:57:38 PM »
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What our children on Wall Street are telling us...
   
When I look at the pictures of OWS, I see young folks. These are our kids. They are the country's future. They feel that they have no future and if they don't, we all have lost the future. The talking heads keep asking "What do they want, what is their platform?" Anyone who seriously asks those questions is part of the problem. They are not a political party or even a "movement". They are our children and they are expecting us to solve the problem...to clean up the mess we made for them.And they are spot on right in asking this. As a parent, if you have ever done something wrong...lost your temper, been unkind...in front of your kid you know the "look". The "look" speaks a thousand words and it says to all of us..."we trusted that you would do better by us, your children." That is the OWS program/platform and it is damned good enough for me.

Does that include your drunk son?  :whatever:

BTW, are you admitting your liberalism is a failure?

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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2011, 08:04:51 PM »
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5. EVERYBODY
   
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in this country KNOWS exactly why the protestors are there...

All this, "what do they want?" is the biggest lie of all. Everybody knows what they want. But the PTB have no intention of giving it to them.

I think it could well be the beginning of a movement. As you imply, the PARENTS need to join it!

Nope, the majority of sane people have no idea what these idiots want.  I see an largely white crowd that are there, must be racist, right?  These are nothing more than middle class kids out on a lark that are trying to relive their parents protests.

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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2011, 08:18:36 PM »
It may be your kid Raven but my kid graduated in June and has a JOB.

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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2011, 08:26:37 PM »
The children at OWS are showing us the liberal-union complex has failed them. They can't think. You have made them helpless.
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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2011, 08:35:40 PM »
It may be your kid Raven but my kid graduated in June and has a JOB.

But your kid wasn't raised by a raving lunatic and taught that the government should give everything to them.

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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2011, 08:40:46 PM »
DUmmy Raven must think everyone has drunken, unemployable kids like hers.

Raven, by the way, seems to have wallduded herself out of her cushy city job this past spring, up there in Rindge, NH.

She railed about the ignorant fundies in Rindge who were trying to balance the budget.

Rindge town officials seem to have maybe received e-mails with links to Raven's raving at the DUmp.

They balanced the budget in part, apparently, by firing her and replacing her with her lower-paid assistant.

Rindge is a tiny burg with swarms and swarms of town employees.

It must be a concentration of self-exiled Massholes who've fled the mess they created back home.

DUmmy Raven is now among the very few Rindgeians (or Rindgeites, or Rindgeonians) who do not draw a paycheck from Rindge.

She and cali should start a pie shop. They could name it "Walldudes".

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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2011, 08:46:41 PM »
Well.

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They are our children and they are expecting us to solve the problem...to clean up the mess we made for them.And they are spot on right in asking this.....That is the OWS program/platform and it is damned good enough for me.

Well, if it's good enough for Jane, she should get with it, and divest herself of her own stock portfolio, giving all her surplus wealth to the government or something.
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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2011, 08:53:18 PM »
But your kid wasn't raised by a raving lunatic and taught that the government should give everything to them.

I lied, he got his job in June...he graduated in May.

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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2011, 08:57:26 PM »
I lied, he got his job in June...he graduated in May.

Well that makes all the difference. What a slacker.  :-)

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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2011, 09:00:59 PM »
Well that makes all the difference. What a slacker.  :-)


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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2011, 10:38:23 PM »
I lied, he got his job in June...he graduated in May.

He LEECHED off the system for a WHOLE MONTH????  UNACCEPTABLE!!!

(kidding, of course, BEG.)

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These are our kids. They are the country's future.

Uh, Raven?  No, they're not.  And no, they're not.  In every generation, there's a group who steps up, picks up the gauntlet, and delivers far beyond what they're expected.  Just because these whiny little bitches aren't the ones who are going to do that doesn't mean the entire society is like them.

Not. Even. CLOSE.
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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2011, 01:36:03 AM »
Oh please! You guys have raised a generation of children who have such an entitlement mentality they think they're too good to take a minimum wage job and work their way up (even people with a college education have to do this). You spent so much time working on their precious self esteem that you neglected to teach them responsibility. But self esteem that isn't tied to any real achievement creates a person with a massive ego but no substance, patience, willpower or self confidence.

We're the freaking adults. YOU people may not know more than your children because your maturity stopped at eighteen so perhaps you don't have the kind of experiences that make you wiser than them. At that age they don't know what they want. That's to be expected at their age...the adults there are pathetic. Time to grow up and quit trying to relive your youth.

Oh, and just because your "children" (who are supposed to be adults) are whining about their future and blaming everyone else there are more young adults who think this is all bullshit. My son's too busy serving the country your useless offspring are complaining about but he wouldn't show up there anyway. He'd be too embarrassed to appear that weak and helpless. My son's a Marine and like every other service person in the country he's got more responsibility and self discipline than YOU. You people should be ashamed that you raised your children to be victims. When you think the whole world is against you, you don't even bother putting forth the effort. You've effectively taught them they cannot take care of themselves. Shame on you!

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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2011, 03:38:22 AM »
Amen, sistah.  Even with my "high salary" as they would claim, they 1--wouldn't deign to do physical labor that I do in the conditions I do, 2--they sure as **** wouldn't have taken the path necessary to get to this point.

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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2011, 09:22:29 AM »
If those shitbirds are our future, were hosed.
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That here, obedient to their law, we lie.

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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2011, 10:22:16 AM »
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They are our children and they are expecting us to solve the problem...to clean up the mess we made for them.And they are spot on right in asking this.
  They're expecting free shit until the day they die, off of someone else's back.  They're not going to get it.  They're also not children.  They're over 18 and need to be treated that way. 


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As a parent, if you have ever done something wrong...lost your temper, been unkind...in front of your kid you know the "look". The "look" speaks a thousand words and it says to all of us..."we trusted that you would do better by us, your children."
   :sosad:  Oh please, that is so puke-worthy.  You just showed how easily you're manipulated by a small child.  Weakling.  Amateur. 

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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2011, 10:26:10 AM »
If the world is too tough for kids you should abort them.

Or so I'm told.

OWS is the result of liberals failing to live up to their abortive duty.
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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2011, 10:52:58 AM »
Raven, mother of the grown man that writes for Truthout, the world famous internet story breaking moonbat news organization.   :rotf:

Why do I get the feeling everything Will does his mother thinks is cute ?  Is Will camped out giving a play by play account of the Occupation from a tent ?   :whatever:

Put some scotch in your pie hole Raven.    :mental:




 


 

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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2011, 11:21:27 AM »
Actually, they have a web site with a list of demands (marxist bastards that they are).

And the idiot at DU is wrong, they do not want the mess cleaned up, THEY WANT THE MESS TO GET BIGGER.

Here are the demands:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occupy-wall-st-moveme/

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Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
Yes, because creating an artificial floor will only result in an oversupply of labor and a shortage of jobs.  Economics 101.  How is that cleaning up the mess?  

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Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
Investors are the only reason that doctor's offices exist in the first place.  Either the doctors themselves or investors and creditors start the business with capital.  The need for capital won't go away no matter how much socialism and marxism you pass.  It's better to use capital more efficiently than having a central planning body handle all investment decisions for the market.  Economics 101 (or maybe 201).

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Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
See comment on minimum wage.  Floors on wages create unemployment.  Not to mention the fact that if someone has a guaranteed salary, they lose all incentive to work.  Ignorant idea.  And, not to mention the small, insignificant detail of who it is that will stand behind the guaranteed living wage - taxpayers.  We have all kinds of nice God-given rights in the Constitution, but the right to someone else's property wasn't one of them.

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Demand four: Free college education.
Yes, because campuses and college professors don't cost anything at all, right?  Oh, you meant taxpayer funded college educations?  More deficit spending.  Brilliant.

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Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.
Forcing failed technologies or technologies that aren't ready for prime time onto society only increases inefficiency, raises the cost of living, lowers the standard of living (brownouts anyone?), etc.  Assinine idea.

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Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.
I'd love to see the math on this one.  How'd you come up with the $1 trillion number?  Probably out of your asses.  Where will you come up with the $1 trillion?  Tax hikes that will result in more unemployment elsewhere?  How many jobs will this create?  None.  Higher taxes or blowing up the currency will only cause more private sector jobs to be destroyed than are replaced by this idiotic idea.

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Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.
Yes, because we just have a trillion dollars for everything, don't we?  Moron.

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Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.
Read the Constitution.  It is already in there.  And I agree with this request, though.  End affirmative action.

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Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.
Where will they pay your taxes, dipshit?

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Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.
There are no independent parties these days.  And this request wouldn't be necessary if they'd just require ID to vote so that dead people and felons would stop voting democrat.

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Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.
Horrible idea.  The money that is forgiven is actually in large part people's deposits in the bank.  Oops.  But go ahead with this plan, just let me go make a withdrawal first.  I understand how this idea appeals to these idiots - they have no deposits to lose.

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Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.
How about you just pay your bills on time, like you promised?

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Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.
Unions kill jobs and companies.  Just ask GM, Chrysler, and every airline.  To the extent that GM and Chrysler are still in existence, those union jobs have cost the rest of American taxpayers hundreds of billions of $$$.  Union labor is subsidized by the rest of us.  GFY.

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These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.
Go take an economics class, morons.

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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2011, 11:50:24 AM »
I didn't see any demands for shorter work days, weeks or 9 months of vacation each year.

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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2011, 11:55:13 AM »
I didn't see any demands for shorter work days, weeks or 9 months of vacation each year.
If any of them had a job it may have been a priority.
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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2011, 11:58:41 AM »
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What our children on Wall Street are telling us...
They needed more class time devoted to hygiene and less to Marxism.
Fire...BAD!!! - John Fetterman


The policies that are indorsed by this party, that they backer of which are much of the 1 percent, causes a social structure much like the one back before the Revolution.

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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2011, 03:07:19 PM »
I didn't see any demands for shorter work days, weeks or 9 months of vacation each year.

With a Government Guaranteed Living Wage®, you get 52 weeks of vacation and 0 hour work weeks.

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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2011, 03:19:03 PM »
As I read on another site today:  "one a monkey learns that he can vote for free bananas, he wil never climb a tree again"

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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2011, 03:56:47 PM »
As I read on another site today:  "one a monkey learns that he can vote for free bananas, he wil never climb a tree again"

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Re: What our children on Wall Street are telling us... Raven
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2011, 04:09:30 PM »
It was never the right that said go to college for eight years, come out with $100,000 of debt and an advanced degree in underwater basket weaving and you will get a six figure job. That was the left.

It was never the right that thought there should be more grants and more loans so that a college education beat the inflation rate by 10 times every year. That was the left.

It was never the right that said our k-12 should make everybody winners because we knew that was not the way the real world works. That was the left.

It was never the right that said everybody should have a house because we knew that some people are not responsible enough to have one. That was the left.

It was never the right that pushed illegal immigration displacing American workers. That was the left.

It was never the right that pushed draconian regulations that drives business and jobs out of the country.  That was the left.
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