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How do we know McCain refused to be released from the POW camp
Crazy Horse:
I'm just going to say this.................**** YOU IDJITS :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3189522
--- Quote ---Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 08:25 PM
Original message
How do we know McCain refused to be released from the POW camp
before others were released, except that McCain said so?
Is there collaboration somewhere? Just curious.
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--- Quote --- LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 08:26 PM
Response to Original message
1. No interest at all in swiftboating the guy
Sorry
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See idjit that implies that he's not being honest................... :bird:
--- Quote ---Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Wouldn't want you to.
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--- Quote ---msongs (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 08:31 PM
Response to Original message
3. he was good at wrecking US aircraft, with NVN help only Once nt
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I thought he shot down by the Army and not the Navy...............and I am so damn sick of hearing that he lost 5 aircraft. 1 was the A-4 that hit with the zunni on the Forrestal 2 was the one he was shot down in.............. :bird:
--- Quote ---still_one (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 08:36 PM
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5. does this have anything to do with his voting record?
or why he voted against the GI bill, his position on Iraq, his position on healthcare, medicare, social security, supreme court justices, jobs being offshored, the high price of gas and food, etc. etc. etc.
Isn't that what counts?
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--- Quote ---Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. It's not about McCain...
It's about the people who attacked Kerry but now so easily employ the McCain affair.
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Did I miss Kerry being a POW..............did I miss McCain saying that US armed forces raped and terrorized and cut the ears off in cambodia while with TiT on a super dooper secret beyond secret Swift Boat mission??
--- Quote ---marylanddem (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 08:37 PM
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6. I would not believe a word that comes out of his mouth
So I agree with you there's every reason to be skeptical about his experiences as a POW.
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:bird:
--- Quote ---janeaustin (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 08:38 PM
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7. I heard on a radio show - can't rember which one, except that I don't
listen to any RW radio - that anyone who left early would be finished.
Their military career would be over, and any future in politics would be no-go, beause no soldier leaves his buddies behind.
Whoever I was listening to had been a POW himself and he laughed at the thought. Said no one would do that because they'd be treated as a traitor back home.
I guess McCain is counting on most people not knowing about that tradition.
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:bird: :bird:
--- Quote ---bbinacan (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 08:41 PM
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9. Don't know if this sufficiently
answers your accusation.
"McCain's account was corroborated by a cable from Averell Harriman, who was President Johnson's envoy to the Paris peace talks. Harriman had tea with a Vietnamese official, who mentioned that McCain had refused early release."
http://www.azcentral.com/news/specials/mccain/articles/...
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:thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright: Hell I would High Five this primitive
--- Quote --- bamalib (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-21-08 08:41 PM
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10. There is collaboration all over the place but I'm not doing your work.
But:1) if he hadn't refused then we would have been released and he wasn't;
2) all the POWs who were with him there are supporting him so that is some sort of answer;
3) It was after that point the torture started.
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****ing IDJIT :bird:
franksolich:
Crazy Horse, sir, instead of getting upset by comments made by the wilfully ignorant primitives, you should just sit back, relax, and watch as the primitives corrode away in their Hate, melting as if leprous.
Wretched Excess:
--- Quote from: franksolich on April 21, 2008, 08:21:41 PM ---Crazy Horse, sir, instead of getting upset by comments made by the wilfully ignorant primitives, you should just sit back, relax, and watch as the primitives corrode away in their Hate, melting as if leprous.
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for some of us, Frank, getting spun up is sort of a hobby. :wink: :-)
djones520:
CH, I think you might have misunderstood that last post you qouted. Seemed to me he was saying there was plenty of evidence that pointed to McCain voluntarily sticking it out, he just wasn't going to do the leg work for the original idiot.
Wretched Excess:
--- Quote from: djones520 on April 21, 2008, 08:30:07 PM ---CH, I think you might have misunderstood that last post you qouted. Seemed to me he was saying there was plenty of evidence that pointed to McCain voluntarily sticking it out, he just wasn't going to do the leg work for the original idiot.
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there are people in that thread that seem to be pretty sure that it didn't happen the way mccain said it did.
but a surprising number of them aren't having anything to do with it.
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