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Re: BREAKING: Dems Go Nuclear on Obamacare
« Reply #50 on: October 16, 2009, 12:26:18 PM »
Quote from: debk on October 16, 2009, 12:19:30 PM

Right.....and while I would like to see them have to pay taxes....what it will do the presidential and congressional races is frightening....

Then you would have a full-on Civil War.
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Re: BREAKING: Dems Go Nuclear on Obamacare
« Reply #51 on: October 16, 2009, 12:36:46 PM »
Quote from: debk on October 16, 2009, 12:19:30 PM

Right.....and while I would like to see them have to pay taxes....what it will do the presidential and congressional races is frightening....

I would question how many taxes it would generate beyond what they may pay now in the way of sales tax.
Unless they moved up the employment scale I don`t see much and would guess they will avail themselves of public services even more then now.
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Re: BREAKING: Dems Go Nuclear on Obamacare
« Reply #52 on: October 16, 2009, 01:10:18 PM »
Quote from: Carl on October 16, 2009, 12:36:46 PM
I would question how many taxes it would generate beyond what they may pay now in the way of sales tax.
Unless they moved up the employment scale I don`t see much and would guess they will avail themselves of public services even more then now.


You should see all the work they do around here (this area)

Construction, landscaping (do you have any idea how much they charge to mow a lawn these days? the guy that does my foreclosures charges a minimum of $60 for a biweekly mow. :o), restaurant kitchen work, hotel staff.

While they aren't doing "white collar" jobs or working in factories.....they are making pretty good money because they are willing to work such long hours. The ones doing construction work from daylight to dark, and if they are doing interior work, will often work later.

Lot of money being paid out in cash....and no taxes are paid on it.

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Re: BREAKING: Dems Go Nuclear on Obamacare
« Reply #53 on: October 16, 2009, 01:20:55 PM »
Quote from: Deuce on October 16, 2009, 10:51:44 AM
Yes, that compromise was quite clever. It still contributes to the mess, though :)

No, what contributed to the mess was the 17th Amendment, which effectively changed the Senate to another House of Representatives.  The Senate was originally supposed to represent the states themselves, and as such, were appointed by the several state governors and approved by the state legislatures.  This system basically ensured that we wouldn't have what we have now, with Robert Byrd, Ted Kennedy, Strom Thurmond, et al, serving for life, but as temporary servants of the state.  Each state was equally represented, the same as the people were equally (as best as could be practiced) represented.  Making the election of Senators direct from the popular vote ensured that the incumbent just had to "bring home the bacon" and they could stay forever.
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Re: BREAKING: Dems Go Nuclear on Obamacare
« Reply #54 on: October 16, 2009, 01:29:43 PM »
Quote from: debk on October 16, 2009, 01:10:18 PM

You should see all the work they do around here (this area)

Construction, landscaping (do you have any idea how much they charge to mow a lawn these days? the guy that does my foreclosures charges a minimum of $60 for a biweekly mow. :o), restaurant kitchen work, hotel staff.

While they aren't doing "white collar" jobs or working in factories.....they are making pretty good money because they are willing to work such long hours. The ones doing construction work from daylight to dark, and if they are doing interior work, will often work later.

Lot of money being paid out in cash....and no taxes are paid on it.



More a curious question then anything but what would make them go above the table after an amnesty.
Both parties are already breaking the law so why change?
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Re: BREAKING: Dems Go Nuclear on Obamacare
« Reply #55 on: October 16, 2009, 02:10:11 PM »
Quote from: Carl on October 16, 2009, 01:29:43 PM
More a curious question then anything but what would make them go above the table after an amnesty.
Both parties are already breaking the law so why change?

Good point.

Those contracting for the work will have to pay more.

Hard telling what the illegals will want.

Just an FYI....not sure if my guy is a US citizen or not...he's from England. But I know he pays taxes, because he's a direct vendor for the bank....and I know they submit a 1099 on him. His wife is US born.
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Re: BREAKING: Dems Go Nuclear on Obamacare
« Reply #56 on: October 16, 2009, 02:19:02 PM »
Quote from: debk on October 16, 2009, 02:10:11 PM
Good point.

Those contracting for the work will have to pay more.

Hard telling what the illegals will want.

Just an FYI....not sure if my guy is a US citizen or not...he's from England. But I know he pays taxes, because he's a direct vendor for the bank....and I know they submit a 1099 on him. His wife is US born.

If they are filing a 1099 I would imagine everything is above board as that would be too easy for the IRS to jump on with that documentation.

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Re: BREAKING: Dems Go Nuclear on Obamacare
« Reply #57 on: October 16, 2009, 02:32:48 PM »
Quote from: Carl on October 16, 2009, 02:19:02 PM
If they are filing a 1099 I would imagine everything is above board as that would be too easy for the IRS to jump on with that documentation.



The only way I can use someone without a 1099, is to hire them directly, pay them myself and then submit an invoice and get reimbursed. And it's a real hassle to get reimbursed :banghead:.

It's so much easier for me to use this person. I request a work order for him at a specific price that he sends a quote in writing...then it goes into his queue, he does the work, sends in pictures of completed work with the invoice and I don't have to do anything except make sure to submit the info for the work order. He lets me know if there's any hold up that I need to get involved in....which isn't very often.

At my own house...we pay cash paper money after the work is done.

Having had someone with a business and having had someone that I'm not sure is legal....I'll take the one that may or may not be legal. It's been my experience around here, that those who work the hardest and quickest ...may or may not be legal. We have found out about them with the help of one of the priests at our church.
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Re: BREAKING: Dems Go Nuclear on Obamacare
« Reply #58 on: October 18, 2009, 06:05:50 AM »
Do even the illegals like what is going on with this?   Wrecking health care is not on their agenda either.  They want on the gravy train, not to wreck it.
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Re: BREAKING: Dems Go Nuclear on Obamacare
« Reply #59 on: October 18, 2009, 08:32:48 AM »
Quote from: Baruch Menachem on October 18, 2009, 06:05:50 AM
Do even the illegals like what is going on with this?   Wrecking health care is not on their agenda either.  They want on the gravy train, not to wreck it.
Bet they regret letting ACORN and LULAC tell them who to vote for.
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Re: BREAKING: Dems Go Nuclear on Obamacare
« Reply #60 on: October 18, 2009, 10:23:59 AM »
Quote from: Baruch Menachem on October 18, 2009, 06:05:50 AM
Do even the illegals like what is going on with this?   Wrecking health care is not on their agenda either.  They want on the gravy train, not to wreck it.

You're assuming they care.  People getting handed free stuff hand over fist don't usually think about how the consequences will affect them.
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Re: BREAKING: Dems Go Nuclear on Obamacare
« Reply #61 on: October 18, 2009, 03:13:46 PM »
Quote from: lug-nut on October 18, 2009, 08:32:48 AM
Bet they regret letting ACORN and LULAC tell them who to vote for.


Little late for regrets now.  I regret wasting my vote on Juan McLame back in November, but crying over that isn't even going to slow down the Marxist Express train we're on now.
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