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THE GREAT BABY FORMULA SHORTAGE
« on: May 12, 2022, 02:00:01 PM »
THE GREAT BABY FORMULA SHORTAGE

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/05/the-great-baby-formula-shortage.php

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wo years ago it was toilet paper, now it is baby formula–a much more serious shortage. I am tuned in to it in part because one of my daughters is the mother of eight-month-old twins and has had a hard time finding formula. What is going on here? My colleague John Phelan looks at the issue and concludes that the culprits are shutdowns and the FDA:

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What is going on? The Wall Street Journal explains:

There are two reasons for the shortage. Supply chain issues caused by the Covid-19 pandemic have made baby formula harder to find for months. The shortage worsened after Abbott Laboratories, a major formula manufacturer, voluntarily recalled some products and closed a plant where the products were made in Sturgis, Mich.

The Abbott Labs plant is now re-opening, not apparently being the source of the contamination that the FDA investigated.

Gooberment over-reaction to Covid plus FDA conclusion-jumping ... brilliant!
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Re: THE GREAT BABY FORMULA SHORTAGE
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2022, 06:37:34 PM »
Why is biggest baby formula plant in US STILL shut down after three months? Abbott says plant is safe and was not responsible for bacteria that killed two kids - but FDA refuses to reopen it as parents across US struggle to feed their babies
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10801581/FDA-refuses-say-baby-formula-plant-reopen-despite-companys-claims-facility-safe.html

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The biggest baby formula supplier in the U.S. has denied its Michigan plant is responsible for the deaths of two children despite the FDA closing it down.

The plant was shutdown nearly three months ago after a bacterial infection caused the deaths and other serious illnesses. 

In mid-February Abbott Laboratories issued a nationwide baby formula recall and ceased operations at its plant in Sturgis, Michigan amid reports of babies contracting bacterial infections from its products.

An Abbott spokesperson told DailyMail.com Tuesday that 'thorough investigation' by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and Abbott revealed 'infant formula produced at our Sturgis facility is not the likely source of infection in the reported cases and that there was not an outbreak caused by products from the facility'.

Abbott Laboratories is still closed. The FDA had some major explaining to do.
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2022, 06:38:36 PM »
Illegal migrants first to get ‘pallets’ of hard-to-find baby formula
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/illegal-migrants-first-to-get-pallets-of-hard-to-find-baby-formula

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The nationwide shortage of baby formula that has sent mothers desperately rushing from store to store has evaded one lucky group: illegal immigrants detained by Border Patrol.

According to videos posted by a Florida lawmaker, the Biden administration has been shipping “pallets” of baby formula to migrant holding facilities.

“They are sending pallets, pallets of baby formula to the border,” said Republican Rep. Kat Cammack in one of two online postings yesterday. “Meanwhile, in our own district at home, we cannot find baby formula,” she added, holding a photo of empty shelves where the formula would be.

Guess, where it went, to illegals.
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Re: THE GREAT BABY FORMULA SHORTAGE
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2022, 10:10:59 PM »
Illegal migrants first to get ‘pallets’ of hard-to-find baby formula
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/illegal-migrants-first-to-get-pallets-of-hard-to-find-baby-formula

Guess, where it went, to illegals.

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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2022, 07:59:27 AM »
FDA cloaks itself in the banner of the old cartoon Dudley Do-right. "I'll save you, Nell!"

In point of fact, FDA -- much like the CDC -- is a political organization run by hacks. The only comparison I can give it is the California Board of Pharmacy. I've had experience with both of those organizations and I can tell you that they both do a great job of intimidation -- simply because they can.
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Re: THE GREAT BABY FORMULA SHORTAGE
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2022, 10:09:39 AM »
Why is biggest baby formula plant in US STILL shut down after three months? Abbott says plant is safe and was not responsible for bacteria that killed two kids - but FDA refuses to reopen it as parents across US struggle to feed their babies
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10801581/FDA-refuses-say-baby-formula-plant-reopen-despite-companys-claims-facility-safe.html

Abbott Laboratories is still closed. The FDA had some major explaining to do.

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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2022, 06:24:23 PM »
Biden Admin Knew The Baby Formula Shortage Was Coming In February
https://dailycaller.com/2022/05/13/brian-deese-biden-administration-knew-formula-shortage-february/

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The Biden administration knew about the baby formula shortage as early as February, the director of the National Economic Council, Brian Deese, told CNN’s “New Day” on Friday morning.

Deese said the administration is working around the clock to tackle the issue from every angle possible, noting the administration is trying to give retailers “more flexibility on the types of formulas that they can sell.” Deese did not provide an estimate of how long the administration anticipates the shortage will last, but urged families to call their healthcare provider if they need help.

Host Kaitlan Collins then asked Deese what his response to Republican criticism that the administration didn’t act fast enough is.

“The administration has been on this from the get-go. A lot of this emanated from a plant in Michigan that was producing formula that didn’t meet safety standards,” Deese said.

They knew the problem, but did nothing.
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2022, 06:46:26 AM »
So, LIEden's Krew knew in February that this shortage was coming? For that matter, it would not have taken a genius to realize that closing down a major processing facility would compound the disruptions caused by Covid plus gooberments' over-reactions to Covid.

That is the context in which LIEden and Krew DID NOTHING.

Further, the FDA has known for weeks and months that whatever they found in that production plant was NOT the strain of bacteria that had caused some infants to get sick and several to die (I'm not minimizing those illnesses and deaths), but the facility has not been allowed to resume production!  :wtf2:  :wtf3:  :wtf2:
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2022, 11:38:30 AM »

Further, the FDA has known for weeks and months that whatever they found in that production plant was NOT the strain of bacteria that had caused some infants to get sick and several to die (I'm not minimizing those illnesses and deaths), but the facility has not been allowed to resume production!  :wtf2:  :wtf3:  :wtf2:

I've been through more than a few FDA inspections. According to FDA's 483 (the report they issue citing deficiencies during inspections and for cause) the specific strain of bacteria that affected those infants WAS in fact in the Abbott Labs plant in Sturgis, MI. Cronobacter spp. was found on equipment and in environmental sampling.

That kind of thing generally prompts a more in-depth inspection and that's when the old standby "Quality Control issues" comes to play.

PPE wasn't sufficient to protect product from people (definitely a no-no since people are generally filthy); clean in place (CIP) processes were deficient; equipment (dryers) showed a history of deterioration; hazard analyses in consumer complaint files were not conducted, and standard operating procedures were not followed in at least one instance. I wanted to attach the 483 to this post, but it's too large - simple machines won't allow it. If you want to read it, just Google "FDA 483 Abbott Labs Sturgis, MI" and it'll be on the FDA.gov web site. FDA 483s are public record.

So while FDA is in fact another government agency with its own politics and bureaucracy, in this case the Abbott Labs plant in Sturgis, MI had some problems sufficient to shut it down. Usually, that kind of thing is done to get senior management's attention. FDA will often be OK with the company calling it a "voluntary" shutdown pending mitigation completion - that keeps the stockholders from having a stroke.

Keep in mind that FDA has the authority to come in with U.S. marshals, seize computers, product, records, and cart people off to jail pending arraignment. They don't often play that card, but they can.

And they do a great job in intimidating the hell out of companies like Abbott Labs.
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Re: THE GREAT BABY FORMULA SHORTAGE
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2022, 02:40:47 PM »
Baby formula crisis punctuates steep decline in support for Biden, Dems, with suburban moms
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/may/14/baby-formula-crisis-punctuates-steep-decline-suppo/

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President Biden and his Democrats were already in trouble with suburban women due to inflation, high gas prices and an agenda these voters say does not align with their priorities.

Then baby formula disappeared from store shelves.

Images of empty store shelves and stories of frantic parents searching for food to feed their infants, coupled with reports that the Biden administration is shipping pallets of scarce formula to the southern border to feed illegal immigrant children, now threaten to crater the party’s already weakened support among suburban women.

Who knew baby formula shortage could have an impact. Food shortages have causes revolts throughout history.
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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2022, 07:37:46 PM »
Who knew baby formula shortage could have an impact. Food shortages have causes revolts throughout history.

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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2022, 12:02:23 AM »
Baby formula crisis punctuates steep decline in support for Biden, Dems, with suburban moms
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/may/14/baby-formula-crisis-punctuates-steep-decline-suppo/

Who knew baby formula shortage could have an impact. Food shortages have causes revolts throughout history.

Especially when the US Government is shipping what stocks of baby formula to the border for those coming into America illegally.
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Re: THE GREAT BABY FORMULA SHORTAGE
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2022, 11:14:01 AM »
ABBOTT ENTERS INTO CONSENT DECREE WITH U.S. FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION FOR ITS STURGIS, MICH., PLANT; AGREEMENT CREATES PATHWAY TO REOPEN FACILITY

https://abbott.mediaroom.com/2022-05-16-Abbott-Enters-into-Consent-Decree-with-U-S-Food-and-Drug-Administration-for-its-Sturgis,-Mich-,-Plant-Agreement-Creates-Pathway-to-Reopen-Facility

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Detailed Findings of Investigation
After a thorough investigation by FDA, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Abbott, and review of all available data, there is no conclusive evidence to link Abbott's formulas to these infant illnesses. Specifically:

CDC concluded its investigation with no findings of a link between Abbott formulas and infant illnesses.

Abbott conducts microbiological testing on products prior to distribution and no Abbott formula distributed to consumers tested positive for Cronobacter sakazakiior Salmonella.

All retained product tested by Abbott and the FDA during the inspection of the facility came back negative for Cronobacter sakazakii and/or Salmonella.
No Salmonella was found at the Sturgis facility.

The Cronobacter sakazakii that was found in environmental testing during the investigation was in non-product contact areas of the facility and has not been linked to any known infant illness.

Genetic sequencing on the two available samples from ill infants did not match the strains of Cronobacter sakazakii found in our plant. Samples from ill infants did not match each other, which means there was no connection between the two cases.

In all four cases, the state, FDA and/or CDC tested samples of the Abbott formula that was used by the child. In all four cases, all unopened containers tested negative.

Open containers from the homes of the infants were also tested in three of the four cases; two of the three tested negative. The one positive was from an open container from the home of the infant, and it tested positive for two different strains of Cronobacter sakazakii, one of which matched the strain that caused the infant's infection, and the other matched a strain found on a bottle of distilled water in the home used to mix the formula. Again, neither strain matched strains found in our plant.

The infants consumed four different types of our formula made over the course of nearly a year and the illnesses took place over several months in three different states.

Cronobacter sakazakii is naturally occurring and found nearly everywhere in the environment. Powdered infant formula manufacturers periodically detect it in their plants, and FDA, in issuing its infant formula Current Good Manufacturing Practices (cGMP) regulations, stated that, based on current technologies, it is not possible to produce a sterile powdered infant formula (79 Fed. Reg. 7987). However, Abbott has no tolerance for Cronobacter sakazakii in its production environment, and no Abbott product was distributed with Cronobacter sakazakii contamination. The company is further strengthening its processes and using advanced technologies to enhance sanitization procedures, product tracking and monitoring as well as training protocols for employees and visitors.

1. The FDA F'ed up.

2. The FDA basically told Abbott, "Nice baby formula plant you got there. Here's the hoops you'll jump through if you want to reopen it."

3. The FDA's F'up and shakedown happened in the context of a tenuous and frequently disrupted production and distribution of baby formula (of all brands).

4. Some news organizations were sounding the alarm about baby formula availability problems some 2 or 3 months before the FDA's F-up and shakedown started.


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Re: THE GREAT BABY FORMULA SHORTAGE
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2022, 02:05:52 PM »
This will be a talking point for the pro abortion crowd. if you had an abortion you wouldn't need all the formula!! :thatsright:
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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2022, 08:11:45 PM »
ABBOTT ENTERS INTO CONSENT DECREE WITH U.S. FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION FOR ITS STURGIS, MICH., PLANT; AGREEMENT CREATES PATHWAY TO REOPEN FACILITY

https://abbott.mediaroom.com/2022-05-16-Abbott-Enters-into-Consent-Decree-with-U-S-Food-and-Drug-Administration-for-its-Sturgis,-Mich-,-Plant-Agreement-Creates-Pathway-to-Reopen-Facility

1. The FDA F'ed up.

2. The FDA basically told Abbott, "Nice baby formula plant you got there. Here's the hoops you'll jump through if you want to reopen it."

3. The FDA's F'up and shakedown happened in the context of a tenuous and frequently disrupted production and distribution of baby formula (of all brands).

4. Some news organizations were sounding the alarm about baby formula availability problems some 2 or 3 months before the FDA's F-up and shakedown started.




Interesting point about that particular strain of Cronobacter. Thanks for bringing that up.

But FDA is still flexing its muscles when it talks about consent decrees. They may have egg on their faces, but they're not going away quietly.

That's arrogance for you.  :whatever:
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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2022, 07:26:18 PM »
Baby formula shortage not a problem in Mexico, parents say
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TIJUANA, Mexico – Baby formula can be easily found south of the U.S. despite the shortage, parents in a Mexican border town told Fox News.

"Well, right now, when I got the formula, I've seen two, three people getting formula from the other side," Jorge, of Tijuana, said. "They have it everywhere at the pharmacies, any store."

As the United States deals with a baby formula shortage due to a recall and pandemic-related supply chain issues, some Americans told Fox News they're purchasing baby formula from Mexico. The shortage prompted President Biden to invoke the Defense Production Act to ensure manufacturers have the necessary supplies for baby formula production.

"The very first Costco that I got [to], the formula is here," said Francisco, who was looking to purchase formula on behalf of his adult son in the U.S. "He's not able just to get it in the States."

There is plenty of baby formula in Mexico. That looks really bad for America.
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2022, 08:14:27 PM »
Baby formula shortage not a problem in Mexico, parents say
https://www.foxnews.com/world/baby-formula-shortage-not-problem-mexico

There is plenty of baby formula in Mexico. That looks really bad for America.

Well, Mexico doesn't have anything like the bureaucracy of the FDA to gin up artificial supply crises like this shit. If you ever doubt that, have a nice cool drink of Mexico City water; just remember to stay in running distance of a toilet when you do...
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2022, 08:46:30 AM »
Life hack. Go to a store that doesn't accept WIC. They have plenty of baby formula.

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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2022, 10:40:54 AM »
Life hack. Go to a store that doesn't accept WIC. They have plenty of baby formula.

That would be an interesting experiment.  Curious if you have found any grocery stores that don't accept WIC to test it.
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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2022, 05:13:05 PM »
That would be an interesting experiment.  Curious if you have found any grocery stores that don't accept WIC to test it.

The welfare state is such a part of the U.S. culture any more that I can't imagine ANY grocery store ANYWHERE (save possibly Nancy Pelousy's chunk of district in the Napa Valley) that doesn't accept WIC.

OK, probably also Westchester County in NY. You know, where Hillary lives when she's not infesting D.C. with her presence.

Oh, and Martha's Vineyard, where Barry has his big parties during Covid lockdowns. That area too.  :whistling:
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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2022, 06:33:02 PM »
Joe Biden Admits He Did Not Realize Seriousness of Infant Formula Shortage Soon Enough
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/06/01/joe-biden-admits-he-did-not-realize-seriousness-of-infant-formula-shortage-soon-enough/

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President Joe Biden acknowledged Wednesday he did not know about the infant formula shortage soon enough.

“I don’t think anyone anticipated the impact of the shutdown of one facility,” Biden said to reporters when asked why he did not act sooner to help end shortages.

Biden spoke to a group of baby formula producers during a live video event on his imitation White House set across the street from the actual White House in an attempt to demonstrate his commitment to solving the problem.

He should of known sooner.
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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2022, 07:38:28 PM »
Joe Biden Admits He Did Not Realize Seriousness of Infant Formula Shortage Soon Enough...

That's the biggest problem with Dim'Rats: every last one of them are so damned short sighted, that unintended consequences - consequences the rest of us could see from low Earth orbit - trail in the wake of every policy they implement.

I could almost encourage a "live and let live" approach to the adherants of the Dim'Rat way of thinking if the rest of us weren't constantly trying to live our lives AND do damage control behind their worthless asses.
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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2022, 03:23:18 AM »
On one hand, it's stunning that SharterJoe actually admitted "I don't think that anyone anticipated the impact of the shutdown of one facility" - which is an admission of failure, given the nature of that particular niche market. That itself points toward incompetence by SharterJoe's handlers.

In contrast, Obama never admitted a failure or a weakness, even though his presidency was peppered with failure - though not nearly to the scale of Joe's.

Of course, in Joe's addled mind, his admitting this failure by his administration doesn't add up to his own failure. He's living in his own Utopia, surrounded by the same type of sycophants that cater to his every whim and rush to "clarify" what SharterJoe said moments before.

What a dipshit way to run a government.  :whatever:
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Re: THE GREAT BABY FORMULA SHORTAGE
« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2022, 08:54:30 AM »
On one hand, it's stunning that SharterJoe actually admitted "I don't think that anyone anticipated the impact of the shutdown of one facility" - which is an admission of failure, given the nature of that particular niche market. That itself points toward incompetence by SharterJoe's handlers.

In contrast, Obama never admitted a failure or a weakness, even though his presidency was peppered with failure - though not nearly to the scale of Joe's.

Of course, in Joe's addled mind, his admitting this failure by his administration doesn't add up to his own failure. He's living in his own Utopia, surrounded by the same type of sycophants that cater to his every whim and rush to "clarify" what SharterJoe said moments before.

What a dipshit way to run a government.  :whatever: 

Don't pretend Joe actually had a clue what he was reading off the teleprompter or getting fed through his earpiece. 
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Re: THE GREAT BABY FORMULA SHORTAGE
« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2022, 02:32:36 PM »
Don't pretend Joe actually had a clue what he was reading off the teleprompter or getting fed through his earpiece.

I am under no illusions. But it is still astonishing that SharterJoe said what he said -- meaning he was probably not fed that information. It was another off-the-cuff remark gaffe for which he is infamous.

The comment violates Barry's Alinsky's Rules, especially the one that talks about keeping your enemy off balance.

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1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.
2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.
8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
10. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.” It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.
11. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.
13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.
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