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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2022, 06:30:19 PM »
Biden warns 'there's no sanction that is immediate' as US, allies target Russia over Ukraine invasion
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-warns-sanction-immediate-us-allies-target-russia-ukraine-invasion

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President Biden, in a new interview published Saturday, warned that there is "no sanction that is immediate," just as the U.S. and allies are using sanctions as their main tool to target Russia over its invasion of Ukraine.

"You have two options. Start a Third World War, go to war with Russia physically. Or two, make sure that a country that acts so contrary to international law ends up paying a price for having done it," he claimed in an interview with Brian Tyler Cohen when discussing the options for dealing with the invasion by Moscow.

Biden has announced multiple waves of sanctions on Russia this week, including on Thursday when he announced sanctions that would target four more major Russian banks, including VTB, and as well placing limits on exports.

Biden acknowledges no sanction is immediate.
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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2022, 06:39:32 PM »
Chechen special forces 'hunters' are unleashed in Ukraine to detain or kill Kyiv officials - and are given 'decks of cards' with photographs of their targets
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10551327/Chechen-special-forces-hunters-unleashed-Ukraine-detain-kill-Kyiv-officials.html

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A squad of Chechen special forces 'hunters' has been unleashed in Ukraine to detain or kill a set of specific Ukrainian officials.

Each soldier was reportedly given a special 'deck of cards' with Ukrainian officials' photos and descriptions on them, a Moscow Telegram channel with links to the security establishment reported.

The list is of officials and security officers suspected of 'crimes' by the Russian Investigative Committee, the report added.

It came as Ukraine's president admitted he is 'target number one' for Russian assassins in his capital, while his family is 'the number two goal' for Putin's hitmen.

The Chechen squad is thought to be in a Ukrainian forest and was allegedly given an 'order to kill' if those on the wanted list could not be detained.

Chechen special forces are in Ukraine. They are quite brutal.
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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2022, 06:47:30 PM »
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"We have captured around 200 Russian soldiers, some around 19 years old. Not trained at all. Badly equipped." Ukraninan Major General Borys Kremenetsky says. "We allow them to call their parents. Parents completely surprised."


This is the second 'report' of Russian soldiers not knowing why they were ordered into Ukraine that I've read today. 
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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2022, 07:17:20 PM »
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"We have captured around 200 Russian soldiers, some around 19 years old. Not trained at all. Badly equipped." Ukraninan Major General Borys Kremenetsky says. "We allow them to call their parents. Parents completely surprised."


This is the second 'report' of Russian soldiers not knowing why they were ordered into Ukraine that I've read today.

And it's not the first conflict in which that's been the case. There were reports during the Battle of Grozny of Russian soldiers asking journalists what was going on and who was fighting whom.

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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2022, 09:29:54 PM »
Ukraine invasion: Russian conscripts reportedly forced to sign military contracts, losing contact with family
https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukraine-invasion-russian-conscripts-military-contracts-family

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Parents of Russian conscripts who say they've lost communications with their loved ones are pleading with Kremlin officials for answers as to where family members have been sent amid concerns they have been forced to sign contracts to fight as part of President Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine, according to the report.

Olga Larkina, the director of Russia’s Committee of Soldiers’ Mothers, spoke to Russian investigative news outlet Meduza, describing how Russian conscripts – those fulfilling military enlistment requirements – had been pressured, or at times even forced to sign contracts to become soldiers for the Russian military.

"Mothers are telling us that their sons have been calling them and saying they’re being forced to sign contracts. We believe it’s wrong to force a conscript to become a contract soldier," Larkina said, according to the translated article. "The parents who have gotten in touch have told us their sons were just taken by military officers, stamped, and that’s it — now they’re contract soldiers."

Russian conscripts are forced to sign contracts and sever contact with families before being shipped off to Ukraine.
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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2022, 09:35:28 PM »
Ukraine invasion: Russian conscripts reportedly forced to sign military contracts, losing contact with family
https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukraine-invasion-russian-conscripts-military-contracts-family

Russian conscripts are forced to sign contracts and sever contact with families before being shipped off to Ukraine.

Sounds like Putin is putting the inexperienced troops into the meat grinder first to wear down the Ukrainian defenses and saving the first string team to go in for the win.
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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2022, 03:35:46 AM »
I haven't seen vids of 'crematorium-trucks' (Russians incinerate their-own dead, preferring to write He Died Gloriously letters to families), but I did see a vid of a rocket-launcher stuck in muddy snow as a car drove by...

WOMAN IN CAR:  " What are you doing? "

SOLDIER IN SNOW:  " You don't see us. "

" Why did you drive-off the road? "

" Just leave! "
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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2022, 01:33:47 PM »
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Kyiv’s mayor: mayor Vitali Klitschko was silent for several seconds when asked if there were plans to evacuate civilians if Russian troops managed to take Kyiv.

“We can’t do that, because all ways are blocked,” he finally said. “Right now we are encircled.”
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-kyiv-europe-e9cd115540b398be26dfcaf472ec1621

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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2022, 06:44:56 PM »
British Spy Boss: ‘LGBT+ Rights’ Are What ‘Distinguish Us from Putin’
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/02/26/british-spy-boss-lgbt-rights-are-what-distinguish-us-from-putin/ :thatsright:  A supposedly educated person said this.

The 600 lb. gorilla in the room has gotta ask -- does Mr. Moore take it up the ass?  :whatever:

Kinda hard to believe that this identity culture crap has taken hold in MI6. What would James Bond think?
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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2022, 07:01:45 PM »
The 600 lb. gorilla in the room has gotta ask -- does Mr. Moore take it up the ass?  :whatever:

Kinda hard to believe that this identity culture crap has taken hold in MI6. What would James Bond think?

Please tell me you haven't forgotten Kim Philby -another known pervert- had a long and prosperous career in MI-6...
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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2022, 07:05:29 PM »
EU will provide fighter planes (old MiGs?), among other things:

https://mobile.twitter.com/shashj/status/1498035551168983043
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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2022, 07:10:50 PM »
'The encirclers' are encircled is probably why AP can't verify it.

France24 reported one convoy was 'captured intact'.  Everybody surrendered.  They thought they were on a training exercise.

The Chernobyl-situation sounds fascinating.  Belaruss-villagers were helping Ukrainian-military funnel invaders into the radiation-zone by switching road-signs... with the exits blocked on the other side.

https://www.wired.com/story/ukraine-russia-nuclear-power-plant-chernobyl/?mbid=social_twitter&utm_brand=wired&utm_medium=social&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=twitter   
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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2022, 08:23:44 AM »
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/02/28/reports-ukraine-and-russia-ceasefire-talks-have-started/
Reports: Ukraine and Russia Ceasefire Talks Have Started
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Russia and Ukraine began talks Monday at the Belarus border as the conflict between the two neighbors enters its fifth day.

Ukrainian presidential advisor Mykhailo Podolyak told Reuters via text message the face-to-face exchanges had begun.

The Ukrainian president’s office said earlier the talks’ aim was an immediate ceasefire and withdrawal of Russian forces from Ukraine, the Independent reports.

President Volodymyr Zelensky said 16 Ukrainian children have been killed and another 45 have been injured in the Russian invasion. He also added that over 4,500 Russian troops have been killed and urged Putin’s troops to lay down their guns and leave.

He added in a video message Monday that “every crime, every shelling by the occupiers bring our partners and us even closer.”

The Ukrainian delegation was the first to arrive for the talks with Russia , saying they were unclear whether they’ll lead to breakthrough.

The U.N. Security Council (UNSC) has also voted to hold a rare emergency special session of the General Assembly to debate the crisis engulfing Ukraine after Russia’s invasion.

The meeting is set down for Monday at U.N. headquarters in New York, as Breitbart News reported.
Lets hope this is true. I'm thinking Russia was caught by surprise with the world's reaction.

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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2022, 10:33:11 AM »
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/02/28/reports-ukraine-and-russia-ceasefire-talks-have-started/
Reports: Ukraine and Russia Ceasefire Talks Have StartedLets hope this is true. I'm thinking Russia was caught by surprise with the world's reaction.

Russia lost leverage.  They've lost leverage over just about everything in the world they had their hand in.  That's stunning.

They'll start the talks by trying to 'regain' their old bully posture.  But I don't think that's going to work.  Those days ended forever, a week ago.

Russian troop-morale has to be rock-bottom.   
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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2022, 03:45:52 PM »
Please tell me you haven't forgotten Kim Philby -another known pervert- had a long and prosperous career in MI-6...

I kinda put Philby in as a, uh....one-off. Or maybe jackoff. Take your pick.  :-)
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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2022, 06:56:59 PM »
Russia's failures could lead to more indiscriminate attacks against Ukrainians, former Navy intel officer says
https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia-failures-could-lead-to-more-indiscriminate-attacks-against-ukrainians-former-navy-intel-officer-says

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Russia could launch more indiscriminate attacks against Ukrainians because of its failure to quickly seize the capital, a retired Navy captain and former intelligence officer told Fox News.

"Because they haven't been as successful as they expected, I think we might unfortunately see the Russian forces behave a little more indiscriminately," said Steven Horrell, who's now a nonresident senior fellow with the Transatlantic Defense and Security Program at the Center for European Policy Analysis. "This will start to turn into even more of a humanitarian crisis."

Monday marked the fifth day since Russia invaded Ukraine.

Western intelligence estimated Kyiv, the Ukrainian capital, could have fallen into Russian control within a matter of days. But the Ukrainians, led by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, have resisted Russian advances and maintained control of much of the country, including Kyiv.

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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2022, 07:55:40 PM »
'Escalate to de-escalate': Experts say Putin's strategy may be to get more aggressive in war on Ukraine
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/russia-putin-escalate-war

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As Russia's war on Ukraine continues, some experts warn Russia might escalate the conflict further either in Ukraine or against the western nations supporting it, with the goal of forcing those nations to capitulate to its demands.

This strategy, former Defense Intelligence Agency officer Rebekah Koffler told Fox News, is called "escalate to de-escalate." It has roots in Russia's planning for a war against the United States, Koffler said, but similar thinking is now standard throughout Russia's military planning.

During a theoretical war with the U.S., Koffler said, Russia would strike first by "popping a low yield tactical nuke thinking that it's going to be such a psychological shock that the conflict would end."

In the context of the Ukraine war, that might mean that Russia would move to flatten cities like Kyiv with traditional weapons as long as Ukrainians continue to resist their invasion, according to Koffler.

What could happen.
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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2022, 08:25:43 PM »
'Escalate to de-escalate': Experts say Putin's strategy may be to get more aggressive in war on Ukraine
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/russia-putin-escalate-war

What could happen.

I don't see Putin backing down from this without first doing something over the top.
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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2022, 08:34:48 PM »
EU will provide fighter planes (old MiGs?), among other things:

https://mobile.twitter.com/shashj/status/1498035551168983043

I saw an article in my news feed that it was going to be 56 MiG-29 Fulcrum fighters and 14 Su-25 Frogfoot ground attack aircraft.
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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2022, 04:21:04 AM »
https://nypost.com/2022/02/24/russia-has-mobile-crematoriums-that-evaporate-the-dead-report/
Russia has mobile crematoriums that ‘evaporate’ dead soldiers: report
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Russia has mobile crematoriums in its arsenal that could follow invading forces and “evaporate” dead soldiers, according to a report.

The British Ministry of Defense released video of the trucks that can incinerate bodies one at a time and suggested Wednesday that the Kremlin might deploy them in its war with Ukraine to hide the number of casualties, the Telegraph reported.

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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2022, 08:45:19 AM »
I saw an article in my news feed that it was going to be 56 MiG-29 Fulcrum fighters and 14 Su-25 Frogfoot ground attack aircraft.

who is going to pilot those aircraft?
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« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2022, 03:13:40 PM »
who is going to pilot those aircraft?

From what I've heard it'll be Ukrainian Air Force pilots picking them up and flying back to Ukraine.
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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2022, 03:25:43 PM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/02/world/europe/nato-weapons-ukraine-russia.html?referringSource=articleShare
NATO Countries Pour Weapons Into Ukraine, Risking Conflict With Russia
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BRUSSELS — The Dutch are sending rocket launchers for air defense. The Estonians are sending Javelin antitank missiles. The Poles and the Latvians are sending Stinger surface-to-air missiles. The Czechs are sending machine guns, sniper rifles, pistols and ammunition.

Even formerly neutral countries like Sweden and Finland are sending weapons. And Germany, long allergic to sending weapons into conflict zones, is sending Stingers as well as other shoulder-launched rockets.

In all, about 20 countries — most members of NATO and the European Union, but not all — are funneling arms into Ukraine to fight off Russian invaders and arm an insurgency, if the war comes to that.

At the same time, NATO is moving military equipment and as many as 22,000 more troops into member states bordering Russia and Belarus, to reassure them and enhance deterrence.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine has brought European countries together, minds concentrated by the larger threat to European security presented by the Russia of President Vladimir V. Putin.

“European security and defense has evolved more in the last six days than in the last two decades,” Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Union’s executive arm, asserted in a speech to the European Parliament on Tuesday. Brussels has moved to “Europeanize” the efforts of member states to aid Ukraine with weapons and money and put down a marker for the bloc as a significant military actor.

But whether European weaponry will continue to reach the Ukrainian battlefield in time to make a difference is far from certain. However proud Brussels is of its effort, it is a strategy that risks encouraging a wider war and possible retaliation from Mr. Putin. The rush of lethal military aid into Ukraine from Poland, a member of NATO, aims, after all, to kill Russian soldiers.

Mr. Putin already sees NATO as committed to threaten or even destroy Russia through its support for Ukraine, as he has repeated in his recent speeches, even as he has raised the nuclear alert of his own forces to warn Europe and the United States of the risks of interference.

World wars have started over smaller conflicts, and the proximity of the war to NATO allies carries the danger that it could draw in other parties in unexpected ways.

Jens Stoltenberg, the NATO secretary-general, hit his constant themes again on Tuesday as he visited a Polish air base. “Putin’s war affects us all and NATO allies will always stand together to defend and protect each other,” he said. “Our commitment to Article 5, our collective defense clause, is ironclad.”

“There must be no space for miscalculation or misunderstanding,” Mr. Stoltenberg said last week. “We will do what it takes to defend every inch of NATO territory.”

But for now the fight is in Ukraine, and while NATO and European Union have made it clear that their soldiers would not fight Russia there, they are actively engaged in helping the Ukrainians to defend themselves.

Western weaponry has been entering Ukraine in relatively large but undisclosed amounts for the last several days. If it can be deployed quickly, it will have impact.

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Re: Russian Troops Enter Ukraine, Bombs in multiple Ukrainian cities.
« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2022, 04:55:42 PM »
Snipers must be having a field-day terrorizing the 40-mile-long convoy.  They can leave, scout around, take naps, stash stuff, grab provisions, change positions...

The moron who marshalled the convoy to take that particular route has probably been beheaded by now.
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