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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: Wretched Excess on November 28, 2008, 12:54:18 PM
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NEW YORK – A worker was killed in the crush Friday after a throng of shoppers eager for post-Thanksgiving bargains burst through the doors at a suburban Wal-Mart, authorities said.
At least four other people were injured, and the store in Valley Stream on Long Island was closed.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. in Bentonville, Ark., called the incident a "tragic situation" and said the employee came from a temporary agency and was doing maintenance work at the store.
"He was bum-rushed by 200 people," co-worker Jimmy Overby, 43, told the Daily News. "They took the doors off the hinges. He was trampled and killed in front of me. They took me down too. ... I literally had to fight people off my back."
Nassau County police said the 34-year-old worker was taken to a hospital where he was pronounced dead at about 6 a.m. The man's name was not released and the cause of death was not immediately known.
Effin crazy people. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081128/ap_on_re_us/wal_mart_death)
Now I know why I never go out on Black Friday.
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A Wal-Mart worker died after being trampled when hundreds of shoppers smashed through the doors of a Long Island store Friday morning, police and witnesses said.
The 34-year-old worker, employed as an overnight stock clerk, tried to hold back the unruly crowds just after the Valley Stream store opened at 5 a.m.
Witnesses said the surging throngs of shoppers knocked the man down. He fell and was stepped on. As he gasped for air, shoppers ran over and around him.
"He was bum-rushed by 200 people," said Jimmy Overby, 43, a co-worker. "They took the doors off the hinges. He was trampled and killed in front of me. They took me down too...I literally had to fight people off my back."
The unidentified victim was rushed to an area hospital, where he was pronounced dead at 6:03 a.m., police said.
Link (http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008/11/28/2008-11-28_worker_dies_at_long_island_walmart_after.html)
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Can two posts be made much closer together?
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Can two posts be made much closer together?
I've actually seen one beat it's dup by .03 seconds before. :-)
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I hope the family of this man sues Walmart for every last nickel! Crazy crazy crazy!
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Screw suing Walmart. I'd sue everyone of those stupid ****ers who couldn't wait 5 damn seconds. I don't see how Walmart could have been negligent in this. The customers broke the doors down to get inside. What are they supposed to do? Set up a electric fence perimeter with attack dogs?
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Screw suing Walmart. I'd sue everyone of those stupid ****ers who couldn't wait 5 damn seconds. I don't see how Walmart could have been negligent in this. The customers broke the doors down to get inside. What are they supposed to do? Set up a electric fence perimeter with attack dogs?
But but but chances are Walmart has more money!
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How horrible!!! Some people are disgusting.... :censored:
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Hell they ran over two Fairfax Country police officers at the Wal mart I attempted to enter this morning.
I'll never do that EVER again.
Should have stuck to my original plan of just going to the PX.
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Not only did the one man die, but they also injured a pregnant woman. There were initial reports about her baby being dead, but updates say that was wrong. These people should ALL be tried for Accessory to homicide. Every stinking one of them!!! I'm sorry, but shopping isn't THAT important !! They could have taken 15 secs to get these injured folks out of the way instead of trampling them !! What the hell is wrong with people today ?!?!?!?!?
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Supposedly this herd also shoved the police officers who were performing CPR on the victim....Also, WalMart has incidents of trampling every black Friday, this is the first time it resulted in a death though. They are going to be sued for failing to provide barriers for this. And hopefully, every senseless person who stomped on this victim gets charged for manslaughter.
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WalMart's just gone to hell. I don't know about the stores where you all live, but all the ones around me are just awful. The superstores, that is. Not that this is about the store per se, but about the customers responsible for killing someone over what..........? Some cheap electronics? Good deal on a coffee maker? :(
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Supposedly this herd also shoved the police officers who were performing CPR on the victim....Also, WalMart has incidents of trampling every black Friday, this is the first time it resulted in a death though. They are going to be sued for failing to provide barriers for this. And hopefully, every senseless person who stomped on this victim gets charged for manslaughter.
I doubt they could be charged for manslaughter. There's no way to pin it on any one person.
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WalMart's just gone to hell. I don't know about the stores where you all live, but all the ones around me are just awful. The superstores, that is. Not that this is about the store per se, but about the customers responsible for killing someone over what..........? Some cheap electronics? Good deal on a coffee maker? :(
Sweet Dee, the ones in Denison and Sherman are just awful. Denison is the worst of the two. I've been driving up to Durant, OK to go to Walmart any more. That store is pretty nice.
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This isn't really surprising, only that it hasn't happened before.
I've worked in retail. Seen just how crazy our customers can be trying to "get the best deal". I really pitied the sales staff on those days and was glad I had a workshop to hermit into when the post Christmas / New years panic sales came on.
Those shoppers were like a pack of rabid rodents, throwing civilized behaviour right out the window.
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There is a reason why I don't go anywhere near a retail store on Black Friday.
Too many f&cking idiots out there.
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The Super Walmart in my area attracts the riff raff......I don't even know where these people come from as they do not live IN my area...I went a few times, but their deals just aren't worth my safety. They always have police surveillance outside the store..which doesn't make it any more appealing in my eyes.
I wouldn't mind if they shut it down.
This season hasn't been warm and fuzzy in my parts. A shopper was threagthened at gunpoint a few days ago at a local mall. A gas attendant was shot and killed a few nights ago...A Best Buy had a smuggling ring today, as the strip mall that housed the Best Buy was shut down and surrounded by police.
It's just so nasty out there....I don't know if it's the decline of the economy or society as a whole is going off the steep end. The Christmas spirit is slowly dying.... :(
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The Super Walmart in my area attracts the riff raff......I don't even know where these people come from as they do not live IN my area...I went a few times, but their deals just aren't worth my safety. They always have police surveillance outside the store..which doesn't make it any more appealing in my eyes.
I wouldn't mind if they shut it down.
This season hasn't been warm and fuzzy in my parts. A shopper was threagthened at gunpoint a few days ago at a local mall. A gas attendant was shot and killed a few nights ago...A Best Buy had a smuggling ring today, as the strip mall that housed the Best Buy was shut down and surrounded by police.
It's just so nasty out there....I don't know if it's the decline of the economy or society as a whole is going off the steep end. The Christmas spirit is slowly dying.... :(
That's what I'm talking about Hawk! Sheesh!! I don't even bother going anymore.
I'm a simple gal, I don't expect much out of people. But when basic human consideration goes flying out the window, it really pisses me off. And makes me sad.
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I don't see how Walmart could have been negligent in this.
Walmart is absolutely negligent for this. They had a sign posted outside that stated "blitz line starts here." It was also their dance, so they are more than liable for ensuring the safety of customers on their property.
I loathe Walmart, and find most of these stores to be dirty, disorganized, and just plain disgusting (not all of them, but far too many of them around here). I did however stand in line at one this morning at 4:30 a.m. (a clean super Walmart closer to Boston) as I love Black Friday shopping and have been enjoying it with my sisters and friends for many many years. One of my sisters had a list of stuff she wanted to get at the Walmart doorbuster price so we went there first. The line extended from the front of the building all the way to the back of the building. The crowd was very festive and friendly -- as has been the case at most stores every year I go out, and when the doors opened the line moved into the building in a very orderly manner. The Walmart staff handled the crowds perfectly -- no problems at all.
I ended up getting my husband a blue ray dvd player, my son a portable dvd player, and a toy for my twins that is sold out everywhere (Playskool Dance Cam), so it was all good forcing myself to go to Walmart.
Black Friday shopping is a lot of fun. Morons like this don't define the shopping experience -- especially given the area of Long Island this happened in. The security should have been heightened from that alone.
Walmart is paying big for this, as they should.
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"The safety and security of our customers and associates is our top priority," said Dan Fogleman, a company spokesman. "At this point, facts are still being assembled and we are working closely with the Nassau County Police as they investigate what occurred."
Translation... We are covering our butts for the coming lawsuit.
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Walmart is absolutely negligent for this. They had a sign posted outside that stated "blitz line starts here." It was also their dance, so they are more than liable for ensuring the safety of customers on their property.
I loathe Walmart, and find most of these stores to be dirty, disorganized, and just plain disgusting (not all of them, but far too many of them around here). I did however stand in line at one this morning at 4:30 a.m. (a clean super Walmart closer to Boston) as I love Black Friday shopping and have been enjoying it with my sisters and friends for many many years. One of my sisters had a list of stuff she wanted to get at the Walmart doorbuster price so we went there first. The line extended from the front of the building all the way to the back of the building. The crowd was very festive and friendly -- as has been the case at most stores every year I go out, and when the doors opened the line moved into the building in a very orderly manner. The Walmart staff handled the crowds perfectly -- no problems at all.
I ended up getting my husband a blue ray dvd player, my son a portable dvd player, and a toy for my twins that is sold out everywhere (Playskool Dance Cam), so it was all good forcing myself to go to Walmart.
Black Friday shopping is a lot of fun. Morons like this don't define the shopping experience -- especially given the area of Long Island this happened in. The security should have been heightened from that alone.
Walmart is paying big for this, as they should.
This was very well said, former! I'm glad I'm not the only one who has noticed this walmart decline! yikes! I'm glad you had a good experience, and survived in one piece :)
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I don't think walmart is liable for this any more than they should be liable for some moron running over a customer in the parking lot. They should have cancelled the sales right then and there and had all of the shoppers arrested. In fact they should have tasered every damn one of them kicked them in the freaking stupid heads and then arrested their pathetic asses. I hope this gets this Black Friday shit canceled forever. It isn't worth it when the American populace is this cold hearted and greedy.
By the way, the Walmart by my house is clean, well organized, and the staff is wonderful. The only day I won't go there is crack check day when everyone gets their welfare payments and food stamps.
I worked retail for 10 years. I can tell you stories that would blow your mind. People lose at least 50 IQ points when they enter a store. They act like inbred animals.
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I don't think walmart is liable for this any more than they should be liable for some moron running over a customer in the parking lot. They should have cancelled the sales right then and there and had all of the shoppers arrested. In fact they should have tasered every damn one of them kicked them in the freaking stupid heads and then arrested their pathetic asses. I hope this gets this Black Friday shit canceled forever. It isn't worth it when the American populace is this cold hearted and greedy.
By the way, the Walmart by my house is clean, well organized, and the staff is wonderful. The only day I won't go there is crack check day when everyone gets their welfare payments and food stamps.
I worked retail for 10 years. I can tell you stories that would blow your mind. People lose at least 50 IQ points when they enter a store. They act like inbred animals.
That's an interesting point!! Couldn't they have had all of those people arrested? I mean, they killed someone for crying out loud!!
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I know for a fact that people were arrested for acting like retarded baboons at our local Walmart today. Fist fighting over TVs. Freaking morons.
There are security cameras all over the store, hundreds of them. I know that they got their faces on video. They should run that tape on TV over and over again until all of them are identified and arrested.
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I know for a fact that people were arrested for acting like retarded baboons at our local Walmart today. Fist fighting over TVs. Freaking morons.
There are security cameras all over the store, hundreds of them. I know that they got their faces on video. They should run that tape on TV over and over again until all of them are identified and arrested.
Agreed. HUGE morons. How embarrassing, fighting over tv's? Wow!!
Hopefully some epic changes will be made, so this will never happen again. i know so many people who shop on black friday with friends, to have some fun and because it's tradition. So it really sucks that things like this can even happen!
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I did however stand in line at one this morning at 4:30 a.m. (a clean super Walmart closer to Boston) as I love Black Friday shopping and have been enjoying it with my sisters and friends for many many years. One of my sisters had a list of stuff she wanted to get at the Walmart doorbuster price so we went there first. The line extended from the front of the building all the way to the back of the building. The crowd was very festive and friendly -- as has been the case at most stores every year I go out, and when the doors opened the line moved into the building in a very orderly manner. The Walmart staff handled the crowds perfectly -- no problems at all.
Your missing a fundamental differance in your situation, and the one in the story. Your crowd was well mannered. This crowd was an unruly mob who broke the doors of the store down, and trampled over the Walmart staff attempting to handle the crowd. Even police on the scene blamed the scenario on the crowd.
It is not Walmarts responsibility to make sure I do not act like a total fool. And suing them because 200 other people where impatient ass holes who couldn't wait 15 extra seconds is just the heights of stupidity.
If you think that Walmart is repsonsible, then I guess next year they need to prop extra supports onto the doorways, and have riot police standing by with tear gas to keep the crowds under control. I'm not an expert on Walmart training programs, but I can't imagine that they cover Riot Control in their modules.
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I suppose that IF one looked at the ethnicity of the two different crowds, one might make an assumption as to where the problem lies......
(just sayin')
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Your missing a fundamental differance in your situation, and the one in the story. Your crowd was well mannered. This crowd was an unruly mob who broke the doors of the store down, and trampled over the Walmart staff attempting to handle the crowd. Even police on the scene blamed the scenario on the crowd.
It is not Walmarts responsibility to make sure I do not act like a total fool. And suing them because 200 other people where impatient ass holes who couldn't wait 15 extra seconds is just the heights of stupidity.
If you think that Walmart is repsonsible, then I guess next year they need to prop extra supports onto the doorways, and have riot police standing by with tear gas to keep the crowds under control. I'm not an expert on Walmart training programs, but I can't imagine that they cover Riot Control in their modules.
No I mentioned the crowd in my area as testimony that black friday sales are not all like this.
Crowd control for these type of events are absolutely the responsibility of the party who is holding the event. That is pretty much the case for every venue. Walmart will need to have paid police detail, or pass out voucher slips for the items they are in line for to people as they line up (as Best Buy and a few other stores do) so there is no rush when the doors open.
Mob scene like that who is not taking direction from Walmart staff (who were outside working the crowd the entire time I was in line yesterday -- making jokes, reminding everyone what the rules are, answering questions as to where items will be located in the store) - police should have been called to the store immediately. The presence of police cruisers would have calmed the crowd.
That all said, the short of it is Walmart held a 'doorbuster' price event that they heavily advertised. They allowed customers onto their property to park their vehicles and line up outside their doors, some 4+ hours prior to opening their store. They offered no crowd control or safety precautions. They made no attempts to form or monitor the line. They allowed the group of customers outside their store to get so out of control that they placed their staff and their customers in grave danger. They are 100% liable for the death of their employee. This was not an instance of a gang storming the store out of the blue -- this was a planned event that was planned poorly.
Crowd control is not rocket science, and when you are dealing with events that occur in rough neighborhoods it is rather paramount it is handled well.
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I suppose that IF one looked at the ethnicity of the two different crowds, one might make an assumption as to where the problem lies......
(just sayin')
I don't think it is ethnicity more than class of people. There were plenty of minorities in the line I was in, however they were middle class/upper middle class as is the demographics for the area I was in.
You hold an event in a rough neighborhood, you have to plan for everything -- including things going terribly wrong.
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They could fix this crap and prevent it from happening in two ways.
1) Get enough stock to have the sale last from store opening to store close. That way people wouldn't feel the need to bum rush the store at 0400 in the morning because they are one of about a thousand people trying to get one of 200 XBOX 360's maked down for the sale.
2) Ties into what I said above...make the sale prices ALL DAY not just for two or three hours. And open the store at normal time.
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I've worked retail at Kohl's and Toys R' Us on BLack Friday when they opened the doors.. it is pandemonium, but this is just nuts. There's gotta be some sort of wrongful death suit coming here soon.
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WalMart's just gone to hell. I don't know about the stores where you all live, but all the ones around me are just awful. The superstores, that is. Not that this is about the store per se, but about the customers responsible for killing someone over what..........? Some cheap electronics? Good deal on a coffee maker? :(
I rarely, maybe twice a year max, go to Walmart. I hate the store. They're dirty and crowded and the shoppers are rude. And I'm even talking about that "nice" one by the new football stadium.
The straw that broke the camel's back for me was many years ago. I had to pick up kitty litter after work and I stopped at the one in Las Colinas (a very "nice" area). No shit, the people in the next check out line, their kid was in the basket and just leaned over and threw up all over the floor. The parents didn't act embarrassed or even make a move to try and clean it up. It was disgusting. I'd rather pay a couple dollars more and go to Target.
My dislike of Walmart even permeated my online shopping. They had a printer that you could buy online for only $29 for yesterday. I went ahead and bought one from Best Buy online that was $50.
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Well, that speaks more to management than the shopper. Frankly, losers are everywhere.
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Well, that speaks more to management than the shopper. Frankly, losers are everywhere.
Or possibly to the higher amounts if illegals in this country who just bring the crappy attitides and rudeness of their home country here.
They bum rush stores in their own country..whats wrong with doing the same thing here right?
Hey if shoving your shopping cart into the lower back of some schlub ahead of you works back home...it'll be just as effective here no?
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Or possibly to the higher amounts if illegals in this country who just bring the crappy attitides and rudeness of their home country here.
They bum rush stores in their own country..whats wrong with doing the same thing here right?
Hey if shoving your shopping cart into the lower back of some schlub ahead of you works back home...it'll be just as effective here no?
No, I'm talking I've had these bad experiences at Walmarts in the upper-middle class areas. It's not because of illegals, it's because there are rude assholes and they seem to all shop at Walmart.
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No, I'm talking I've had these bad experiences at Walmarts in the upper-middle class areas. It's not because of illegals, it's because there are rude assholes and they seem to all shop at Walmart.
You can find rude assholes anywhere. When I was at Toys R Us working a few Christmases ago, the hottest thing was the Tickle Me Elmo, and a couple of middle aged well to do looking ladies damn near came to fisticuffs over the last one on the shelves until they brought out more from the back.
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Certain caliber of people shop at certain stores.
For example, I like Costco...it's an all cash/debit store...they don't take credit cards...I always have a good experience at Costco...On the weekends, it does get busy and there are long lines, but I try to go during the week or non peak hours to avoid crowds.
This year, my job gave us a special on BJ's. $15 for 15 months...(I pay $45 for 1 year at Costco)
So I went to BJ's....the store was filthy and disorganized, the people were nasty and rude, both customers and those employed there..BJ's takes credit cards.
I don't know if that is a major difference..but I will never go back to BJ's and will be renewing my Costco card.
I also shop only at Publix and Target.
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NEW YORK — Police were reviewing video from surveillance cameras in an attempt to identify people who trampled on a Wal-Mart worker killed when a crowd of post-Thanksgiving shoppers burst through the doors at a suburban store and knocked him down.
Criminal charges were still possible, but identifying anyone in the store's videos may prove difficult, said Nassau County police spokesman Detective Lt. Michael Fleming on Friday.
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link (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,459068,00.html)
I hope they find the guilty parties.
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Pictures from an exhibition. (Sorry Kieth)
http://www.nydailynews.com/money/galleries/walmart_stampede_captured_in_pictures/walmart_stampede_captured_in_pictures.html
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You wouldn't see this kind of idiocy outside a Bloomingdale's.
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Pictures from an exhibition. (Sorry Kieth)
http://www.nydailynews.com/money/galleries/walmart_stampede_captured_in_pictures/walmart_stampede_captured_in_pictures.html
I think that the pics say it all......
Eupher, I don't think those people would be shopping at a Bloomingdale's or Macy's ......
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I work at Wal Mart. I make OK money and have, contrary to many stories, excellent medical coverage, and a number of benefits you never, ever hear about. The ONLY people who have keys to the doors at Wal Marts are the Store Managers and the Assistant Managers, these keys DO NOT leave their hands, that said, if this poor guy was unlocking the door, as reported, someone did something VERY incompatible with company guidelines.
They could fix this crap and prevent it from happening in two ways.
Like shopping online, or just not being an ass?
1) Get enough stock to have the sale last from store opening to store close. That way people wouldn't feel the need to bum rush the store at 0400 in the morning because they are one of about a thousand people trying to get one of 200 XBOX 360's maked down for the sale.
We had 16 of those XBoxes, and no fights and not even a raised voice when we sold out of them at 6:05. A better target for rage on Wii, Xbox and PS3 pricing and availability would be Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. Why don't we have enough, because THEY do not make enough to meet demand. Why are Wii's the same price at KmartKMart (http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/s_10151_10104_Computers+%26+Electronics_Video+Games_Video+Game+Hardware),Best Buy PS2 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=abcat0704001&type=category) XBox (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=abcat0701001&type=category) and Wii (http://www.bestbuy.com/site//olspage.jsp?id=abcat0706001&type=category) New Egg Wii (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16868100018) Notice anything? The prices of each are the SAME no matter where you go. That is Price Fixing, my friend and when liberals accuse Big Oil of it, it is felonious and immoral, but, when Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo do it, it is OK? Every game console costs THE SAME no meatter where you buy it. EVERY GAME Costs the same too. Perhaps not letting video game companies RESTRAIN TRADE by arbitrarily controlling prices on the games they sell would be a nice start too. 2) Ties into what I said above...make the sale prices ALL DAY not just for two or three hours. And open the store at normal time.
In the first HOUR we were open yesterday we sold as much (dollar value) merchandise as we usually do in a DAY. The second HOUR was like unto the first. This is not our doing, this is morons en mass who have nothing better to do than buy a bunch of shit. Oh, BTW, recession MY ASS! If there were a recession we would not have sold near as many $1000 TV's, $800 Computers and $250-$500 video game systems as we did... anecdotal as all hell, but, still...
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Eupher, I don't think those people would be shopping at a Bloomingdale's or Macy's ......
Precisely.
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Certain caliber of people shop at certain stores.
For example, I like Costco...it's an all cash/debit store...they don't take credit cards...I always have a good experience at Costco...On the weekends, it does get busy and there are long lines, but I try to go during the week or non peak hours to avoid crowds.
This year, my job gave us a special on BJ's. $15 for 15 months...(I pay $45 for 1 year at Costco)
So I went to BJ's....the store was filthy and disorganized, the people were nasty and rude, both customers and those employed there..BJ's takes credit cards.
I don't know if that is a major difference..but I will never go back to BJ's and will be renewing my Costco card.
I also shop only at Publix and Target.
Costco not only accepts credit cards they offer their own Amex. (http://www.costco.com/Service/FeaturePage.aspx?ProductNo=11264812&cm_re=1-_-Right_Nav-_-Amex)
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I will say that my local Sears store, which usually does $40-80K/ day depending on the day, raked in some $300K+ on black Friday. I wish I had still been working there!! The appliance salesmen sold $20K of appliances each that day, averaged out, and they have six or eight salesmen, with two shifts. But, people were nice, having fun and nobody got hurt or injured due to the crowds.
Edited to add, that same Sears store did $260+K last year......
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Where's the one that says, "Fat woman wearing spandex"?
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I rarely, maybe twice a year max, go to Walmart. I hate the store. They're dirty and crowded and the shoppers are rude. And I'm even talking about that "nice" one by the new football stadium.
The straw that broke the camel's back for me was many years ago. I had to pick up kitty litter after work and I stopped at the one in Las Colinas (a very "nice" area). No shit, the people in the next check out line, their kid was in the basket and just leaned over and threw up all over the floor. The parents didn't act embarrassed or even make a move to try and clean it up. It was disgusting. I'd rather pay a couple dollars more and go to Target.
My dislike of Walmart even permeated my online shopping. They had a printer that you could buy online for only $29 for yesterday. I went ahead and bought one from Best Buy online that was $50.
Don't take this I am anti-Wal-Mart. Going there is like in the movie Idiocracy.
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This is not our doing, this is morons en mass who have nothing better to do than buy a bunch of shit.
Those 'morons' are the reason why you are gainfully employed.
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Those 'morons' are the reason why you are gainfully employed.
They're not the reason I'M gainfully employed. Can I call them morons? Scariest place I've ever been was a Wally World at 9 PM on a Saturday night. Five Westpacs in some of the biggest shithole slums in the world and I felt safer than I did in that place that night.
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If the store closes early, it really puts a damper on playing Wal-Mart Bingo :thatsright:
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f144/Chesterfield313/Crazy%20People/wally.jpg)
:lmao:
When I was pregnant with my first child (I was 36, my husband was 40), we went into a Walmart as a last resort to see if they had a baby item I was having zero luck finding anywhere. As luck would have it they had it, so I grabbed that and a few other things for the baby. At the checkout line my husband was paying for it when the cashier (who appeared to be older than him) said to him "you're such a nice grandfather buying all this for your grandchild." I burst out laughing, but he was NOT amused.
Yeah, he hasn't been a fan of Walmart since that time either.
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Yeah, he hasn't been a fan of Walmart since that time either.
I will say this about Wally World--it really is the PEOPLE who frequent the place more than the Wally World itself. Yes, places like this, K-Mart, etc, do seem to act as idiot magnets, but if there are fewer idiots/reprobates in a given locale, ergo, lower concentration of them at said gathering spots.
That being said, I'm still not going to one until after New Year's.
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They're not the reason I'M gainfully employed. Can I call them morons? Scariest place I've ever been was a Wally World at 9 PM on a Saturday night. Five Westpacs in some of the biggest shithole slums in the world and I felt safer than I did in that place that night.
dude, we're talking about Black Friday -- the day that when you can crawl your lazy ass out of bed at o'dark-thirty in the a.m. (in all fairness, I am up anyway cause SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK), you can score some big time savings on items.
I head out coffee in hand and with my sisters and girlfriends enjoy a marathon day of bargain basement prices shopping, with a nice leisurely brunch thrown in the mix, and get a great deal of Christmas shopping done.
Do I encounter rude people? sure. Are they the majority? no.
Besides, I am a survivor of the annual Filene's Basement dress sale (all dresses were $14.99, doors open at 6 a.m., and hells yeah those upper class ladies were animals!). I did that every single year, no matter where I lived -- I came back to MA for it. I miss that sale. :(
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The bingo card forgot to add the "Wally World Walk." This is where newly licensed CCW holders carry a gun for the 1st time in public to see if they are printing.
http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xdtalk-chatter-box/65521-wally-walk.html
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=372005&highlight=wally+world+walk
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=886021&highlight=wally+world+walk
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dude, we're talking about Black Friday -- the day that when you can crawl your lazy ass out of bed at o'dark-thirty in the a.m. (in all fairness, I am up anyway cause SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK), you can score some big time savings on items.
The only reason I'll EVER crawl my "lazy ass" out of bed that early is to go to work. Now granted, being sans crib lizards, Christmas shopping for me is a comparative breeze. And given the state of the economy this year, etc., I've already stated that people are getting cards and charitable donations in their names, period. Christ, the shipping for stuff back to CA, AZ, etc., would be more than most of the shit's worth anyway.
I still don't see the point in going to Kittery Trading Post or the outlet stores at midnight. None!
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...... going to Kittery Trading Post or the outlet stores at midnight. None!
...now you're talking. That's an idea for next year.
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Wow! After reading the comments here I guess it must be in demographics. The WallyWorld here is clean enough you could eat off the floor!
Sorry to see so many have such a low opinion. My daughter works for these guys and I can guarantee you this would never happen here!
We do have the occasional soccer mom grab and scuffle, but gee willikers Andy!
I went to the site with the phone pictures and I agree it has a lot to do with what part of the city you shop in and unfortunately ethnicity. Where's Reverend Al and Jesse when this shit happens? Guess we'll have to wait for Bill Cosby or Clarence Thomas to say something! They should be ashamed of themselves! The only thing you will hear is how prejudiced we are!
Unbelievable that these people have the manners of vultures feeding on a carcass!
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They could fix this crap and prevent it from happening in two ways.
1) Get enough stock to have the sale last from store opening to store close. That way people wouldn't feel the need to bum rush the store at 0400 in the morning because they are one of about a thousand people trying to get one of 200 XBOX 360's maked down for the sale.
2) Ties into what I said above...make the sale prices ALL DAY not just for two or three hours. And open the store at normal time.
Sorry, you have no idea what you're talking about. Ther's not a snowball's chance in hell that this is possible!
You got some kind of crystal ball that would tell you how much of this stuff you should order in advance? Oh I know, lets just rent another warehouse and fill it to the brim! Then when Black Friday is over, we'll just send everything back that we don't sell!
Gothcha! That's all we need to do!
Most of these Black Friday slaes are to get people into the store in order to sell the shit they actually make money on! These so called sale items generally are being taken at a loss in order to get bodies into the store!
You know nothing of retail!!!!
Actually TxR, I thought you were smarter than this!
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Wow! After reading the comments here I guess it must be in demographics. The WallyWorld here is clean enough you could eat off the floor!
Sorry to see so many have such a low opinion. My daughter works for these guys and I can guarantee you this would never happen here!
We do have the occasional soccer mom grab and scuffle, but gee willikers Andy!
I went to the site with the phone pictures and I agree it has a lot to do with what part of the city you shop in and unfortunately ethnicity. Where's Reverend Al and Jesse when this shit happens? Guess we'll have to wait for Bill Cosby or Clarence Thomas to say something! They should be ashamed of themselves! The only thing you will hear is how prejudiced we are!
Unbelievable that these people have the manners of vultures feeding on a carcass!
I know what you mean. I have 2 of them within a 10 minute drive of where I live. Both are very clean stores and I have had no real complaints. The customer service sometimes leaves a little bit to be desired, but when you weigh 400lbs and your ass is stuck on a Walmart checkout line 8 hours a day I can see how you could hate life a bit. I'm very glad I have access to them though.
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Yep and now the Union is calling Walmart everything under the sun but not a peep about the ****ing animals that caused it. :banghead:
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Our Walmart is a fairly clean and nice place. My solution for these type of sales would be to have random announcements of sales items during the day, kind of like KMart used to do with Blue Light specials.
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The bingo card forgot to add the "Wally World Walk." This is where newly licensed CCW holders carry a gun for the 1st time in public to see if they are printing.
http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xdtalk-chatter-box/65521-wally-walk.html
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=372005&highlight=wally+world+walk
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=886021&highlight=wally+world+walk
I did the walk without even being aware it was a walk! About a year ago or so! Even bought ammo! Holy shit! Who woulda thunk?!?
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The only reason I'll EVER crawl my "lazy ass" out of bed that early is to go to work. Now granted, being sans crib lizards, Christmas shopping for me is a comparative breeze. And given the state of the economy this year, etc., I've already stated that people are getting cards and charitable donations in their names, period. Christ, the shipping for stuff back to CA, AZ, etc., would be more than most of the shit's worth anyway.
I still don't see the point in going to Kittery Trading Post or the outlet stores at midnight. None!
Bingo. I've long since gone beyond going out, buying a bunch of shit, spending even more money to wrap it all, then wait in yet more lines to mail the shit out. All that to feel a warm 'n fuzzy? **** that.
Bah ****ing humbug.
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I did the walk without even being aware it was a walk! About a year ago or so! Even bought ammo! Holy shit! Who woulda thunk?!?
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One that really gets them excited is school property. I carry everywhere I go. Never thought about it. When I go to the courthouse they just take my weapon and put it in a locker. Schools however are a total different situation. Had to pick up my grandaughter once from school and I thought they were going to all have coronaries! Had on my leather jacket, but it wasn't zipped. Musta moved a particular way and a first grade teacher about fainted! They ended up callin' the local constable and since he knew me it was no big deal. I hate to think what would have happened if I had not known him! :-)
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One that really gets them excited is school property. I carry everywhere I go. Never thought about it. When I go to the courthouse they just take my weapon and put it in a locker. Schools however are a total different situation. Had to pick up my grandaughter once from school and I thought they were going to all have coronaries! Had on my leather jacket, but it wasn't zipped. Musta moved a particular way and a first grade teacher about fainted! They ended up callin' the local constable and since he knew me it was no big deal. I hate to think what would have happened if I had not known him! :-)
THAT'S the problem with folks. They have been trained that if they see a gun, their world is going to end. Let's forget that the average person that carries is a "good guy" and has been vetted by the local sheriff or state agency. There's too much paranoia out there when it comes to guns. Hell, I'd rather be unarmed in a room full of people that are carrying than to be armed and in a bad part of town.