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[Freeper]

People will be judged by their own actions. I willingly own that I called you guys konservative kave kids because it is funny. I only did so after reading your "child molester" shit you were writing about me long before I came back onto your discussion board. Your site has a pretty good search function also.

I have refuted that Mandela was a communist. I also had no problem with the fact that he and his group were looking at gaining their political voice through more violent means since the corrupt and unjust apartheid government had stripped away the rights of the African majority to representation. No votes. Second class status in the country. Nonviolence had been tried for years and didn't work. Mandela was not, himself, invovled in those actions. Perhaps in retrospect his almost THIRTY YEARS IN PRISON were a blessing in that respect because he was confined and not out on the streets fighting the fight.

What you have failed to do is show how even his tangential connection to the more violent aspects of the ANC take away in any large measure what it was he accomplished in bringing about a peaceful transition of power as the first democratically elected leader of South Africa with virtually no vengeance and retribution occurring black on white. He accomplished much and his duly honored worldwide for his efforts.  Only very bitter and narrow minded people would see it differently.

So the ends justify the means, and if the results are the ones you like we ignore the blood on his hands.

What if he was a conservative would you be so forgiving? You wouldn't, you would allow his violent past to overshadow any good that came of his being in office. Don't try denying it.

[NHSparky]

virtually no vengeance and retribution occurring black on white.

You're kidding me, right?  Are you aware of the violent crime rate there today?

[Freeper]

You're kidding me, right?  Are you aware of the violent crime rate there today?

It's the republican's fault.

[NHSparky]

So the ends justify the means, and if the results are the ones you like we ignore the blood on his hands.

What if he was a conservative would you be so forgiving? You wouldn't, you would allow his violent past to overshadow any good that came of his being in office. Don't try denying it.

Case in point--Reagan was the catalyst for the West's victory in the Cold War without firing a shot, and yet the left STILL considers him the devil incarnate.

[Pretzel Warrior]

Two things:

1.  Yes, we have.  You chose to plug your ears and "lalalalalala".

2.  Ghandi, MLK, and Jesus never advocated indiscriminate bombing to advance their causes nor did they cavort with mass murderers.

Uh...no you haven't. In all of those comments, the closest you got was in saying Mandela's long-estranged wife made comments in support of "necklaces" in a speech. Mandela was in prison at the time. Soon after he left prison, it was clear he and Winnie were not really meant to be together considering all of her corruption and the like, and they divorced. Your garbage you brought up may be one or two degrees of separation from Mandela, but they have nothing to do with what Mandela said or did.

What were the quotes where Nelson Mandela advocated indiscriminate bombing? Jesus covorted with murders, tax collectors and prostitutes. MLK was with LBJ when Civil Rights Act, so I guess he did cavort with mass murderers.

[NHSparky]

Uh...no you haven't. In all of those comments, the closest you got was in saying Mandela's long-estranged wife made comments in support of "necklaces" in a speech. Mandela was in prison at the time. Soon after he left prison, it was clear he and Winnie were not really meant to be together considering all of her corruption and the like, and they divorced. Your garbage you brought up may be one or two degrees of separation from Mandela, but they have nothing to do with what Mandela said or did.

What were the quotes where Nelson Mandela advocated indiscriminate bombing? Jesus covorted with murders, tax collectors and prostitutes. MLK was with LBJ when Civil Rights Act, so I guess he did cavort with mass murderers.

Does it hurt when you reach that much?

[Freeper]

Uh...no you haven't. In all of those comments, the closest you got was in saying Mandela's long-estranged wife made comments in support of "necklaces" in a speech. Mandela was in prison at the time. Soon after he left prison, it was clear he and Winnie were not really meant to be together considering all of her corruption and the like, and they divorced. Your garbage you brought up may be one or two degrees of separation from Mandela, but they have nothing to do with what Mandela said or did.

What were the quotes where Nelson Mandela advocated indiscriminate bombing? Jesus covorted with murders, tax collectors and prostitutes. MLK was with LBJ when Civil Rights Act, so I guess he did cavort with mass murderers.

Yeah Jesus hung out with the DUmmies of that time period, but they had to change their ways to follow him. I bet it pained you to include tax collectors with thieves and murderers, we all know you lefties love taxes.

[biersmythe]

I think they should air this commercial 24/7....eff those regressives. GO TOYS-R-US GO!!!!

[wasp69]

I have refuted that Mandela was a communist.

Guess you should have checked with your lying "Jesus" before you typed that.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nelson-mandela/9731522/Nelson-Mandela-proven-to-be-a-member-of-the-Communist-Party-after-decades-of-denial.html

I also had no problem with the fact that he and his group were looking at gaining their political voice through more violent means since the corrupt and unjust apartheid government had stripped away the rights of the African majority to representation. No votes. Second class status in the country. Nonviolence had been tried for years and didn't work.

And yet Jesus, MLK, and Ghandi were able to pull it off.  Maybe Mandela, Slovo, and the rest of the terrorist wing of the ANC just didn't have what it took to do something really great?

[wasp69]

You're kidding me, right?  Are you aware of the violent crime rate there today?

Considering the complete worship of leftist killers, I doubt PW has given it the scantest attention.

[HawkHogan]

Considering the complete worship of leftist killers, I doubt PW has given it the scantest attention.

If it's not a mass shooting, liberals don't care about violent crimes.  Rape, assault, murder, do whatever you want, liberals won't care.  But if a nutjob walks into a school with an AR15, we better destroy all guns. 

[wasp69]

Uh...no you haven't. In all of those comments, the closest you got was in saying Mandela's long-estranged wife made comments in support of "necklaces" in a speech. Mandela was in prison at the time.

Your garbage you brought up may be one or two degrees of separation from Mandela, but they have nothing to do with what Mandela said or did.

The profound lack of intellectual honesty that was very apparent in your flailing kept you from noticing anything that deviated from your propagandized view.

I personally am willing to rub your nose in your stupidity, line item by line item, chunk by chunk, myth by myth...

Soon after he left prison, it was clear he and Winnie were not really meant to be together considering all of her corruption and the like, and they divorced.

   Why don't you expand a little further on this for us?

What were the quotes where Nelson Mandela advocated indiscriminate bombing? 

The killing of civilians was a tragic accident, and I felt a profound horror at the death toll. But as disturbed as I was by these casualties, I knew that such accidents were the inevitable consequence of the decision to embark on a military struggle.

Mandela
"Long Journey to Freedom"

Jesus covorted with murders, tax collectors and prostitutes.

Are you going to pretend, with that profoundly stupid example, that you know something about Jesus and why he ministered to the lowest of society?  Because a statement like that shows that you clearly know jack shit.

MLK was with LBJ when Civil Rights Act,

Uh, what?

so I guess he did cavort with mass murderers.

Well, LBJ was a democrat...

[wasp69]

If it's not a mass shooting, liberals don't care about violent crimes.  Rape, assault, murder, do whatever you want, liberals won't care.  But if a nutjob walks into a school with an AR15, we better destroy all guns. 

Were you asleep for the whole Martin/Zimmerman kerfunkle?

[BannedFromDU]

People will be judged by their own actions. I willingly own that I called you guys konservative kave kids because it is funny. I only did so after reading your "child molester" shit you were writing about me long before I came back onto your discussion board. Your site has a pretty good search function also.

I have refuted that Mandela was a communist. I also had no problem with the fact that he and his group were looking at gaining their political voice through more violent means since the corrupt and unjust apartheid government had stripped away the rights of the African majority to representation. No votes. Second class status in the country. Nonviolence had been tried for years and didn't work. Mandela was not, himself, invovled in those actions. Perhaps in retrospect his almost THIRTY YEARS IN PRISON were a blessing in that respect because he was confined and not out on the streets fighting the fight.

What you have failed to do is show how even his tangential connection to the more violent aspects of the ANC take away in any large measure what it was he accomplished in bringing about a peaceful transition of power as the first democratically elected leader of South Africa with virtually no vengeance and retribution occurring black on white. He accomplished much and his duly honored worldwide for his efforts.  Only very bitter and narrow minded people would see it differently.

I started the child molester meme because you look like a child molester to me.

[Pretzel Warrior]

I started the child molester meme because you look like a child molester to me.

And as I'm sure you must know, that is a bullshit claim to lay on a complete stranger. So I am laughing at someone daring to say I am the one polluting this site because I refer to you as konservative kave kids (despite the many derogatory statements made about blacks on these discussions and the confederate flags flying on posters' avatars.

[Pretzel Warrior]

The profound lack of intellectual honesty that was very apparent in your flailing kept you from noticing anything that deviated from your propagandized view.

I personally am willing to rub your nose in your stupidity, line item by line item, chunk by chunk, myth by myth...

   Why don't you expand a little further on this for us?

Are you going to pretend, with that profoundly stupid example, that you know something about Jesus and why he ministered to the lowest of society?  Because a statement like that shows that you clearly know jack shit.

Uh, what?

Well, LBJ was a democrat...

I'm sure I know more about the Bible than you do.  I was raised in a Christian religion that I left after years once I realized all religion is a scam.

[wasp69]

I started the child molester meme because you look like a child molester to me.

Doesn't he also have a penchant for defending pedophiles?

[Tess Anderson]

And as I'm sure you must know, that is a bullshit claim to lay on a complete stranger. So I am laughing at someone daring to say I am the one polluting this site because I refer to you as konservative kave kids (despite the many derogatory statements made about blacks on these discussions and the confederate flags flying on posters' avatars.

But aren't you the one that said *we* ought to put the white back in the WH on your very first post here? 

[wasp69]

I'm sure I know more about the Bible than you do.  I was raised in a Christian religion that I left after years once I realized all religion is a scam.

I'm positive you don't if you say something so blatantly ignorant, and stunningly stupid, as Jesus "cavorting" with murderers, tax collectors, and prostitutes.  I'm even more convinced you don't know shit from shinola about the Gospel of Jesus, much less the Bible, if you traded Christianity for worship of Marxist trash.  Any further discussion of this can be relegated to another thread.

In the mean time, great debater, why don't you tackle the more relevant and salient points of my post?

[BannedFromDU]

And as I'm sure you must know, that is a bullshit claim to lay on a complete stranger. So I am laughing at someone daring to say I am the one polluting this site because I refer to you as konservative kave kids (despite the many derogatory statements made about blacks on these discussions and the confederate flags flying on posters' avatars.

     Get over the confederate flag horseshit. 99.99% of the time it doesn't mean what you idiots think it means.

     And calling you a child molester is just a way to poke at your buttons. And it worked. Do I really think you're a child molester? No. There? Happy, sweetheart?

[HawkHogan]

Were you asleep for the whole Martin/Zimmerman kerfunkle?

Well, I mean, that's one of the rare opportunities for the race baiters to lead the charge against "whitey."  Every now and then the grievance industry will care about a crime if it's an opportunity to push their false "racism" narrative.

I was referring to the massive amount of rapes/murders/assaults/robberies that occur in the inner cities, that are completely disregarded. 

[Zathras]

And as I'm sure you must know, that is a bullshit claim to lay on a complete stranger. So I am laughing at someone daring to say I am the one polluting this site because I refer to you as konservative kave kids (despite the many derogatory statements made about blacks on these discussions and the confederate flags flying on posters' avatars.

Care to provide links to prove the bolded part or are you just spewing drek yet again?

[Bad Dog]

I started the child molester meme because you look like a child molester to me.

He does to me too.  Could we get the admins to rename him Chester the Molester?

[Crazy Horse]

Care to provide links to prove the bolded part or are you just spewing drek yet again?

I second that.

[Tucker]

Care to provide links to prove the bolded part or are you just spewing drek yet again?

That's not going to change even if it does provide proof.