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Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults


Switzerland will hold a vote on whether to introduce a basic income for all adults, in a further sign of growing public activism over pay inequality since the financial crisis.

A grassroots committee is calling for all adults in Switzerland to receive an unconditional income of 2,500 Swiss francs — about $2,800 — per month from the state, with the aim of providing a financial safety net for the population.


http://news.msn.com/world/swiss-to-vote-on-dollar2800-monthly-income-for-all-adults?stay=1

Good for them. It'll be interesting to see how this vote goes.

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liberal_at_heart (5,970 posts)
1. Someone gets it! Too bad it isn't us.

Yay, free shit for everyone!!!  :whatever:

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2. Wow. The Swiss are doing it right. n/t

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3. Good for the Swiss

Maybe one day we can follow their example. Less misery for the poor = better life for everyone.

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19. OMG, can you imagine if we had that here?

Is Switzerland still homogeneous or do they have immigrants like other European nations? I hear that they are blamed for these lessening in benefits in recent years.

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30. could you imagine the careers you would be free to pursue if you have a guaranteed income?

I could be a zoologist and not have to worry if my paycheck would be enough to support my family. People could pursue their passion and follow careers they felt would make a difference in this world instead of which ones pay the rent.

Oh good lord.  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

If you read some of the DUmmy links, this is a "grassroots" effort.  Which I can only infer that it means there are some "Occupoopers" who are floating this idea.
      
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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2013, 02:20:25 PM »
Does anyone discuss just where exactly does this 33,600.00/yr windfall come from?

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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2013, 02:26:51 PM »
Does anyone discuss just where exactly does this 33,600.00/yr windfall come from?

Of course not.  Just like when they discuss raising the minimum wage, without realizing that goods and services will increase pricing just as well.
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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2013, 02:28:31 PM »
I waded over and as usual about 15% of them "get it" as far as what a joke it is and the other 85% are like our current DUmbass visitor Laelth,so incredibly idiotic that it makes ones head spin.

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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2013, 02:48:04 PM »
Sounds like a good idea to me.  We could use a guaranteed minimum income here in the United States.

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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2013, 02:50:01 PM »
I waded over and as usual about 15% of them "get it" as far as what a joke it is and the other 85% are like our current DUmbass visitor Laelth,so incredibly idiotic that it makes ones head spin.
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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2013, 02:50:41 PM »
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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2013, 03:01:07 PM »
Sounds like a good idea to me.  We could use a guaranteed minimum income here in the United States.

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Why?  Should we just "give" everyone a guaranteed $50k a year?  Do you even realize how that would affect the prices of the essentials, food/gas/etc.? :popcorn:
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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2013, 03:04:14 PM »
You rock, Carl.  btw, you haven't given me enough bitch-slaps.  I'm expecting one an hour from you.  Come on, don't let me down.

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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2013, 03:09:59 PM »
So do they get this $2800 in addition to what they are already getting?

According to a 2012 American Community Survey, between federal and states welfare, we spend roughly $60,000 per family per year on families below the poverty level.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/over-60000-welfare-spentper-household-poverty_657889.html


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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2013, 03:13:17 PM »
Does anyone discuss just where exactly does this 33,600.00/yr windfall come from?
The rich.  Where else?
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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2013, 03:21:26 PM »
The rich.  Where else?
...and when the rich get tired of working for nothing.....then what?
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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2013, 03:25:44 PM »
...and when the rich get tired of working for nothing.....then what?

Well according to Lilith we can just keep racking up debt for "the foreseeable future".

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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2013, 03:27:14 PM »
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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2013, 03:28:41 PM »
If my math is correct, that would work out to about $16/hour based on a 40 hour work week.  Imagine how many people would decide that work was unnecessary if they received that for sitting around breathing.

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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2013, 03:31:00 PM »
So, can a DUmmy just waltz on over to Switzerland, hop the border and be granted amnesty, be given a driver's license and get all these bennies and a free education? What is stopping the Dummies from racing over there by the boatful?

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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2013, 03:31:59 PM »
So, can a DUmmy just waltz on over to Switzerland, hop the border and be granted amnesty, be given a driver's license and get all these bennies and a free education? What is stopping the Dummies from racing over there by the boatful?
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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2013, 03:33:03 PM »
If my math is correct, that would work out to about $16/hour based on a 40 hour work week.  Imagine how many people would decide that work was unnecessary if they received that for sitting around breathing.

The few instances in my 20 years post-college where I was unemployed, I actually did file for unemployment.  I could have gotten somewhat menial part-time jobs for $10/$12 an hour, but sadly my unemployment benefits payed more than that.  So I kept looking for full-time work and took the benefits.  I'm not proud of it, but that's the way it made more sense economically.
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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2013, 03:33:39 PM »
The Swiss Army :-)

But, but, but...that's not fair. That is oppression. That is inhumane. We are alllll citizens of this planet and that is all that should matter... :panic:

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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2013, 03:33:45 PM »
So, can a DUmmy just waltz on over to Switzerland, hop the border and be granted amnesty, be given a driver's license and get all these bennies and a free education? What is stopping the Dummies from racing over there by the boatful?

Well, per capita gun ownership in Switzerland is actually higher than in the US, so the DUmmies are probably afraid of all those crazy gun owners  :wink:

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« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2013, 03:34:41 PM »
Why?  Should we just "give" everyone a guaranteed $50k a year?  Do you even realize how that would affect the prices of the essentials, food/gas/etc.? :popcorn:
Even I will concede that $50k/year is extraordinary and excessive, but that just shows how far the U.S. is out of line with all the rest of the liberal democracies in the world.  Personally, I'd be happy with a $1,000.00/month ($12k/year) minimum income.  No doubt, most of the posters on CC would consider this outrageous.  No surprise, really.  Heaven forbid, we might be giving a little money to people who are undeserving.



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« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2013, 03:36:35 PM »
Oh brother - from the article linked by the DUmmie:

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In March, Swiss voters backed some of the world's strictest controls on executive pay, forcing public companies to give shareholders a binding vote on compensation.
A separate proposal to limit monthly executive pay to no more than what the company's lowest-paid staff earn in a year, the so-called 1:12 initiative, faces a popular vote on Nov. 24.

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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2013, 03:37:29 PM »
Something tells me that this is going to go down in flames.
              

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Sounds like a good idea to me.  We could use a guaranteed minimum income here in the United States.

Flame-retardant suit on.

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-Laelth

Yeah so you sorry ass freeloaders can take more of the money that people like me bust our asses off for. Just where the hell do you think that money comes from? The flippin north pole, a magical money tree, or it just happens to be there. No it comes from people who decided instead of sucking on the government's tit that would make something of themselves. I was unemployed for 2 1/2 years doing odd jobs for my parents to make ends meet till I found the job I have now. One thing really pisses me off is that their fing  dope heads, dead beats, and lazy asses that bitch and moan that minimum wage isn't enough, and strike demanding $15 a hour. They don't even have anything to offer their employer that is worth that. What libtards like you don't get your income is dictated by what skills are worth. Doesn't matter if it is trade craft like my job or a job the requires a degree. Moral of the story. GET OFF YOUR ASS.