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The liberal vultures are circling.
« on: June 25, 2010, 02:37:26 PM »
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The ****ing vultures are circling already. (Are you surprised?)
   
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Today, in my spam folder, was an e-mail with this "return address:"

Oil Spill Injury Alert!

And this subject line: Oil_Spill_Lawsuit_Compensation

Those gutter-dwelling, slime-sucking, spawn of the sons of of pox-ridden syphillitic chancres. Those inexplicable mutations of a dead-end branch of evolution gone horribly wrong. Those indescribably malignant, unrepentant users of perfectly good oxygen, to which they have NO right in the sharing of with decent human beings.

I cannot for the life of me concieve of ANY circumstance that would compel me to attempt to take advantage of those poor, desperate folks down around the Gulf; to be so base, SO evil, as to want to turn their agony into my own financial gain...using spam e-mail to do so because, well, for me to advertise via a legitimate channel would expose me for the fraud that I was.

What the ****, do you suppose, is WRONG with those parasites? God Damn every single one of them.

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6. Without personal injury attorneys, injured people would get nothing.
   
And we work for free, usually. We don't get paid, at all, unless we win.

The attorneys working for the big corps., on the other hand, get the big big bucks and they get paid whether they win or lose.

I apologize if I misconstrued your post.

-Laelth

Nope. You read his post right. You're a vulture.  How many cases would you get if your clients had to pay the defendents if they lost?  Don't make it look like you are taking cases out of kindness.

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Re: The liberal vultures are circling.
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2010, 02:43:48 PM »
Laelth is either a shitty lawyer, or being very disingenuous about the 'Working for nothing' part of that.  Contingency-fee PI attorneys are rather discriminating about taking cases, and will turn away the ones where they think they will end up getting the big goose egg.
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Re: The liberal vultures are circling.
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2010, 02:56:57 PM »
Laelth is either a shitty lawyer, or being very disingenuous about the 'Working for nothing' part of that.  Contingency-fee PI attorneys are rather discriminating about taking cases, and will turn away the ones where they think they will end up getting the big goose egg.

Vultures like Laeth know many times big corps will just pay them off rather than go to court or waste their time defending themselves because it is frikkin' cheaper to do so.

The hot coffee at McDucks comes to mind. Look at all the stinkin' commercials we have to endure every day on TV because these asshole have no conscience!
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Re: The liberal vultures are circling.
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2010, 02:57:24 PM »
It bares repeating>  Democrats are the biggest recipients of Trial Lawyers.

Rude awakenings are just ahead for both the legal and medical professions.  There will be a wailing and gnashing of teeth.  


IMHO the dump is du-ing a great public service by demonizing those they consider to be among the rich ruling classes.   Wobblie doctors and lawyers will be on the short list subjected to the torch and pitch folk parade the primitives want to carry out.  If you know any recommend they stop by the dump to see what up!! :-)
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Re: The liberal vultures are circling.
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2010, 03:27:04 PM »
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Those gutter-dwelling, slime-sucking, spawn of the sons of of pox-ridden syphillitic chancres. Those inexplicable mutations of a dead-end branch of evolution gone horribly wrong. Those indescribably malignant, unrepentant users of perfectly good oxygen, to which they have NO right in the sharing of with decent human beings.

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Re: The liberal vultures are circling.
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2010, 04:30:34 PM »
Those gutter-dwelling, slime-sucking, spawn of the sons of of pox-ridden syphillitic chancres. Those inexplicable mutations of a dead-end branch of evolution gone horribly wrong. Those indescribably malignant, unrepentant users of perfectly good oxygen, to which they have NO right in the sharing of with decent human beings.
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Is he talking about DUmp members...lawyers...or both...can't tell 'em appart without a program.

Honest lawyers are like oases in the desert....few and far between.
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Re: The liberal vultures are circling.
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2010, 05:59:37 PM »
Is he talking about DUmp members...lawyers...or both...can't tell 'em appart without a program.

Honest lawyers are like oases in the desert....few and far between.

What are oases? Ya mean oasis'? C'mon, it's one thing for a DUmpster DIvers to be illiterate, another for us to do it! Heh! Spell check is your friend. If you use FireFox, it's built in.

BlueSate ragged me over not enough o's in stoooopid, for cryin' out loud! ( it's a joke son )

I don't think I've ever met a conservative lawyer. Politics warrant them to be big government hacks!

After all, the congress critters on both sides refused to limit claims for malpractice law suits. Never mind it pushes Docs out of the profession every year or the fact the insurance companys tell them it's a big part of premium increases.

DemonRats are forever preachin' how they're for the "little" guy, when in fact they're screwin' us with no Vaseline!

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Re: The liberal vultures are circling.
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2010, 06:51:39 PM »
What are oases? Ya mean oasis'? C'mon, it's one thing for a DUmpster DIvers to be illiterate, another for us to do it! Heh! Spell check is your friend. If you use FireFox, it's built in.

BlueSate ragged me over not enough o's in stoooopid, for cryin' out loud! ( it's a joke son )

I don't think I've ever met a conservative lawyer. Politics warrant them to be big government hacks!

After all, the congress critters on both sides refused to limit claims for malpractice law suits. Never mind it pushes Docs out of the profession every year or the fact the insurance companys tell them it's a big part of premium increases.

DemonRats are forever preachin' how they're for the "little" guy, when in fact they're screwin' us with no Vaseline!

It's going to get much worse with "Bama Care"!

oases.....Mr Webster and spell checker here says it's plural...so argue with them. I've never claimed to be real educated in the english language..
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Re: The liberal vultures are circling.
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2010, 07:09:28 PM »
So the stone faced one must have gotten out of jail. Last we heard of him, he was driving to AZ to protest the anti immigration law. When asked when he was leaving, he replied, "I already have."

I wonder who serviced his wife while he was gone. She's a looker. I'd do her. :drool:
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Re: The liberal vultures are circling.
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2010, 07:19:22 PM »
BlueSate ragged me over not enough o's in stoooopid, for cryin' out loud! ( it's a joke son )

 :thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright:

5 o's!

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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2010, 08:36:45 PM »
:thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright:

5 o's!

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Re: The liberal vultures are circling.
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2010, 08:37:25 PM »
oases.....Mr Webster and spell checker here says it's plural...so argue with them. I've never claimed to be real educated in the english language..

I've never heard of such a thing! Learn sumpin new every day!
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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2010, 11:37:41 AM »

Nope. You read his post right. You're a vulture.  How many cases would you get if your clients had to pay the defendents if they lost?  Don't make it look like you are taking cases out of kindness.

You're right, I think.  He did call me a vulture, although he backed off further down in the thread.  And I don't take cases out of charity.  I can't afford to.  As another poster rightly noted, I only take cases I think I can win because I can't afford to work for free for years and not get paid.

Hey, everybody hates lawyers these days (until they need one).  And there's no doubt that the right has been leading an organized campaign to denigrate trial lawyers (Plaintiffs' lawyers) because they want to de-fund the left and the Democratic Party.  It is also true that Plaintiffs' lawyers donate more money to Democrats than they do to Republicans.  But have you looked at the other side?  The defense attorneys are the ones who are making the big bucks.  A few Plaintiffs' attorneys make good money ... a few ... but the defense attorneys (the ones that make the big money because they work for the wealthy corporations) are the ones who make the most money, and they donate most of it to Republicans because the Republicans advance laws that favor the rich and, specifically, those big wealthy corporations.  Does the name Joe Barton ring a bell?

Either way, I thought I should just say hi given that I was being discused in this thread.  So flame away, you manly men and women.

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Re: The liberal vultures are circling.
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2010, 11:51:56 AM »
 :cheersmate: Laelth, I just thought you were stretching it a bit on your 'Milk of human kindness' theme, that's all.

PI attorneys do perform a valuable and necessary function helping the powerless, the problem is that many on this side of the fence see it as a 'Cure has become worse than the disease' situation.  I'm not sure it's quite that bad, myself, but there is a huge amount of our societal resources tied up very unproductively in the threat or promise, and offense and defense, of PI and class action litigation.
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2010, 11:59:49 AM »
You're right, I think.  He did call me a vulture, although he backed off further down in the thread.  And I don't take cases out of charity.  I can't afford to.  As another poster rightly noted, I only take cases I think I can win because I can't afford to work for free for years and not get paid.

Hey, everybody hates lawyers these days (until they need one).  And there's no doubt that the right has been leading an organized campaign to denigrate trial lawyers (Plaintiffs' lawyers) because they want to de-fund the left and the Democratic Party.  It is also true that Plaintiffs' lawyers donate more money to Democrats than they do to Republicans.  But have you looked at the other side?  The defense attorneys are the ones who are making the big bucks.  A few Plaintiffs' attorneys make good money ... a few ... but the defense attorneys (the ones that make the big money because they work for the wealthy corporations) are the ones who make the most money, and they donate most of it to Republicans because the Republicans advance laws that favor the rich and, specifically, those big wealthy corporations.  Does the name Joe Barton ring a bell?

Either way, I thought I should just say hi given that I was being discused in this thread.  So flame away, you manly men and women.

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Weird ... I never needed a lawyer until one was sicc'd on me.  If the person who sued me had had to pay his attorney when he LOST the suit I would NEVER have been sued.  The attorney knew there was very, very little chance of proving I had anything to do with his clients accident.

What would be wrong with 'Loser Pays'??  Spill it mr.mrs. scumsucking .... err I mean lawyer.  LOL

All kidding aside what do you have against Loser Pays?

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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2010, 12:01:46 PM »
You're right, I think.  He did call me a vulture, although he backed off further down in the thread.  And I don't take cases out of charity.  I can't afford to.  As another poster rightly noted, I only take cases I think I can win because I can't afford to work for free for years and not get paid.

Hey, everybody hates lawyers these days (until they need one).  And there's no doubt that the right has been leading an organized campaign to denigrate trial lawyers (Plaintiffs' lawyers) because they want to de-fund the left and the Democratic Party.  It is also true that Plaintiffs' lawyers donate more money to Democrats than they do to Republicans.  But have you looked at the other side?  The defense attorneys are the ones who are making the big bucks.  A few Plaintiffs' attorneys make good money ... a few ... but the defense attorneys (the ones that make the big money because they work for the wealthy corporations) are the ones who make the most money, and they donate most of it to Republicans because the Republicans advance laws that favor the rich and, specifically, those big wealthy corporations.  Does the name Joe Barton ring a bell?

Either way, I thought I should just say hi given that I was being discused in this thread.  So flame away, you manly men and women.

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Re: The liberal vultures are circling.
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2010, 12:03:21 PM »
Hey, everybody hates lawyers these days (until they need one).

I'm in banking, so it's good to have lawyers because that means I'm not completely at the bottom of the barrel.  :)

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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2010, 12:11:27 PM »
I'm in banking, so it's good to have lawyers because that means I'm not completely at the bottom of the barrel.  :)

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I'm in health insurance, so it's good to have bankers.   :-)
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« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2010, 12:16:07 PM »
I'm in health insurance, so it's good to have bankers.   :-)

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I have to admit I think "loser pays" on some of these suits would curtail a lot of the nonsense.  And then there's the lawsuits where some idiot doesn't realize that if you purchase a cup of coffee from McDonald's, it's probably best not to spill it in your lap, and if you do it's your own fault, so shut up and take your medicine.  Those types of suits do nothing to help lawyers' image.

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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2010, 12:19:07 PM »
Hmmmmm..........what happened to our pet vulture? As soon as it was asked about "loser pays", it skedaddled!

Typical ambulance chaser!
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« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2010, 12:19:51 PM »
My main issue with lawyers is that they so often go into politics.  The legal world is very different from the real world.  I would rather see more business people enter politics, as they know "boots on the ground" economics.  What is likely to inspire business expansion and job creation?   What should be common sense, seems to elude the lawyerly among us when it comes to how economic machines work.  

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Re: The liberal vultures are circling.
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2010, 12:20:29 PM »
I'm in health insurance, so it's good to have bankers.   :-)

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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2010, 12:28:11 PM »
My main issue with lawyers is that they so often go into politics.  The legal world is very different from the real world.  I would rather see more business people enter politics, as they know "boots on the ground" economics.  What is likely to inspire business expansion and job creation?   What should be common sense, seems to elude the lawyerly among us when it comes to how economic machines work

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« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2010, 12:29:34 PM »
:cheersmate: Laelth, I just thought you were stretching it a bit on your 'Milk of human kindness' theme, that's all.

I probably was.  LOL.

But I can hope you understand why.  First off, I work hard, and I take a big risk when I take a contingency fee case.  I have had quite a few where I ended up working for nothing.  Try it.  It's not fun working for something for eighteen months or two years and not getting paid.

Second, it makes no sense for Democrats to attack trial lawyers, especially given (as noted in this thread) that trial lawyers are some of the biggest donors to the Democratic Party.  The OP in that thread was shooting his own party in the foot, and I felt the need to explain that.

But, in truth, I could have gone to work for a big corporate defense firm.  I would have made a lot more money if I had done so.  Instead, I chose to sleep well at night.  Some of what I do is, actually, motivated by a (perhaps-misguided) instinct to protect and defend the weak.  Without people like me, many people would have no access whatsoever to the Courts.

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« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2010, 12:32:51 PM »
I have no doubt there are good Lawyers out there, but we can't ignore the fact that there are Lawyers who are ambulance chasers, than there Lawyers out there who have been bilking good Doctors for years. I remember 1 time we had a patient who had serious surgery, she signed an informed consent, was told that the surgery might not work, the complications that could come about by the surgery, she has the surgery, it didn't work, and she sued the entire group of Doctors, she lost the suit but those Doctors had to pay their Lawyers a heck of a lot. Many times Doctors just settle because it's cheaper, even if they're in the right. I would love to see panels put together, in the case of Malpractice cases have this panel made up of Medical Professionals, and let them make the decision if the Lawsuit was frivilous, and if they determine it to be so then if the person who brings the case loses? they pay. I have personal experience in this because my Father was misdiagnosed, he had Leukemia (we saw the medical records) but it wasn't until 6 months later when he went to another Doctor that it was confirmed. He thought about suing but when it went into remission he decided he didn't want to do it, he wasn't greedy and he wasn't looking for a free ride like a lot of people in our society today are.
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