poll: is Patrick Kennedy gay?

[debk]

WOW! I went to Catholic School for 12 years and it would be totally weird to run into a former Priest or Nun without the collar or habit.

Imagine being a young college guy, who sees one of his elementary teachers, on the beach looking hot in a bikini...then add in that when she was your teacher she was a Nun in a habit?!?!

We have a couple of cute Priests at our church ...well one is the cute type that you want to pinch his cheeks, the other one is one of those guys who hits his 40's that you know what probably a basketball or baseball jock in high school that all the girls swooned over, but he was shy and super kind instead of being a jerky jock, and grew up to keep the good looks, and though no longer shy, is still super kind. I think I would feel embarassed to see them in a swimsuit.

When I was a kid, our Priest always wore a cassock when he was in the Church. He didn't wear it when he was out and about. He always wore black dress slacks and shoes, except when he was going out to the nearby National Guard camp to say a Mass right after church...then he would have khaki pants on. Always knew when you knelt at the communion rail and you would see them peaking out under his robes when he was going. He retired from the Guard as a Lt Colonel. I adored that man.

[PatriotGame]

I DO BELIEVE THAT I AM NOT THE ONE THAT NEEDS THORAZINE SINCE I AM THE PERSON THAT DIAGNOSES PEOPLE. I HAVE NO BRAIN DYSFUNCTION. PATRICK KENNEDY IS NOT GAY, DON'T BE TALKING ABOUT ME AND HIM. I AM NO STALKER, I DON'T FOLLOW HIM AROUND. HE IS MY FIANCE. I HAVE STUDIED PSYCHOLOGY FOR 18 YEARS. THERE SURE ARE ALOT OF JEALOUS PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. PATRICK KENNEDY HAS NEVER LIVED THAT LIFESTYLE AND NO LONGER DOES DRUGS AND ALCOHOL. PEOPLE CAN CHANGE WHEN THEY WANT TO AND WHEN THEY HAVE SOMEONE WHO LOVES AND CARES FOR THEM. PATRICK HAS GONE THROUGH ALOT IN HIS LIFE. HE LOST HIS FATHER WHICH WAS HIS MOST CHERISHED MENTOR AND CONFIDANTE. PATRICK HAS A LOT OF STRESS IN HIS LIFE AND I CALL TO COUNSEL HIM. DON'T DTALK ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT. WHEN YOU DON'T NO SOMETHING ABOUT SOMEONE, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT OR YOU WILL GET SUED, KILLED OR THROWN IN JAIL. THE KENNEDY FAMILY ARE VERY DANGEROUS WITH A GUN AND KNOW HOW TO USE ONE AND YOU SHOULD BE FOR WARNED BY ME THAT WHEN YOU MESS WITH PATRICK KENNEDY YOU ALSO MESS WITH HIS BROTHER AND SISTER. AND YOU MAKE ME VERY UPSET BECAUSE I LOVE PATRICK WITH ALL MY HEART. PLEASE LEAVE HIM ALONE AND LET HIM BE HAPPY. DON'T CALL HIM GAY!!

DAMN!!!111

All that DUmmy rage then banned.

It's like waiting all off season to play football only to find out the football is flat and the football pump is broken on opening day!!!111


(****ers...)

[PatriotGame]

I don't really have words to describe my attitude on this forum.

Do I laugh or do I cry, the [poor Kennedy Family] with all its sorrow.

Then along comes this strange young lady that is so over the top----I ask myself---What if she IS telling the truth.?

This Family whose father and grandfather had his eldest daughter forceable placed in a hospital to be given a lobotomy because she was in love with a married man.   That will teach a good lesson to the other kids.  His wife Rose that bore, what 8-9 kids watched as he dallied with the movie star queens at the time.

He got off easy he died--leaving the wife to live long enough to see her grandson steal her pain medication.

This poor woman buried 3 sons and watched as the lessons her husband had given to the family caused the distruction of most of her family.

Had Shakespeare been around at that time I wonder what he could have done with their story to make it believable.

Today as I look back and remember when Hubby and I was bumped from a flight with kids, Damn we with a 6months old, 2 years old, 5 years old and 8 years years old  Hubby in full uniform, for the Kennedy entourage, we had to wait 6 hours for another flight, it gets my knickers in a twist.

Damn it we were at war at that time but those people of the press needed our seats.

So, nothing would surprise me when it comes from that family, and how do we really know that the so called crazy lady is not part of a plan to make the stories about this Kennedy being Gay to muddie the Waters.?

Oh yeah most mental health experts drive dump trucks.

NO, NO let her stay, this is the most fun I have had in a year or two.
 

You can always 'off' yourself - much easier that way...

[PatriotGame]

I was thinkin' more like.........."Who Let the Dogs Out?"

Talk about a "pasty face"!

heh!

Or...

I like turtles...

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[franksolich]

Where the hell is franksolich?  This is all his fault.

Hey, not that I care either way, but who the Hell "stickied" this thread?

As difficult as it might seem to believe, when I started this many moons ago, it was just an innocent query, no mischief meant.

Maybe.

[franksolich]

I just checked.

This thread is the second-most-read thread in the DUmpster, although it's still less than half the number who read that thread started by TxRadioGuy about the criminal cop-catching creep Carlos.

[JohnnyReb]

You know, in my lifetime, I've seen the word "Gay" go from meaning someone that was happy, pleasant, easy going....or a girls name for that matter... to meaning something dirty, perverted, disgraceful, etc.....not my idea of "Gay" at all.

Time changes everything.

[franksolich]

You know, in my lifetime, I've seen the word "Gay" go from meaning someone that was happy, pleasant, easy going....or a girls name for that matter... to meaning something dirty, perverted, disgraceful, etc.....not my idea of "Gay" at all.

Time changes everything.

Uh huh.

And with the primitives' wilful ignorance about things, the primitives themselves probably think of the "Gay '90s"--McKinley, Roosevelt, Hearst, barbershop quartettes, mustache cups, parasols--as a homodominant era in American history, and that the "Gay Paree" of the first world war meant the place was like San Francisco.

[JohnnyReb]

Uh huh.

And with the primitives' wilful ignorance about things, the primitives themselves probably think of the "Gay '90s"--McKinley, Roosevelt, Hearst, barbershop quartettes, mustache cups, parasols--as a homodominant era in American history, and that the "Gay Paree" of the first world war meant the place was like San Francisco.

They could have had a "GAY" old time in Berlin in the late 20's and early 30's.

But then later they would have had to pay the Pied piper.

[BlueStateSaint]

They could have had a "GAY" old time in Berlin in the late 20's and early 30's.

Fred Flintstone was in Berlin then?

[Chris_]

Hey, not that I care either way, but who the Hell "stickied" this thread?

As difficult as it might seem to believe, when I started this many moons ago, it was just an innocent query, no mischief meant.

Maybe.

I only did that after Queen Crazy showed up.

[vesta111]

You can always 'off' yourself - much easier that way...

OH sigh,----- PAT and Sparkey, I am no friend of the Kennedy's, however the hope was there that JFK JR. would become the ONE member that would over ride the genetics of Old Joe, and his grandmothers father that was an interesting as Old Joe.

This was the first scandalous family in politic from my generation.

My parents had Huey Long from LA. The old King Fish.

We who were in grade school or high school  when the Kennedy;s first came on the scene and watched as they became Royalty into our lives could not get enough of them.

We went from a first lady that wore little Bows in her hair, middle aged and out of sight out of mind.  

 Jacky came  in a modern day woman, short skirts and that voice that was so much like Marylin Monroes, soft and whispy gave us a JOLT.
Never before had we had a first lady that was young, sexy, and SMART.

She was the fore runner of Princess Diana, we ate it up.

Politics aside the family, the president and his 2 brothers who were young and attractive, ran our world for good or bad.

Watching the next generations is still today and the next generation of this family.  This huge wealthy family had degenerated over the years, now we are asking if Pat Kennedy is Gay----.

[dandi]

We who were in grade school or high school  when the Kennedy;s first came on the scene and watched as they became Royalty into our lives could not get enough of them.

We went from a first lady that wore little Bows in her hair, middle aged and out of sight out of mind.  

 Jacky came  in a modern day woman, short skirts and that voice that was so much like Marylin Monroes, soft and whispy gave us a JOLT.
Never before had we had a first lady that was young, sexy, and SMART.

She was the fore runner of Princess Diana, we ate it up.

Politics aside the family, the president and his 2 brothers who were young and attractive, ran our world for good or bad.

And this is why anyone who fell for that Camelot shit should have never been allowed to vote. 

**** "royalty" in America.

[DumbAss Tanker]

You know, in my lifetime, I've seen the word "Gay" go from meaning someone that was happy, pleasant, easy going....or a girls name for that matter... to meaning something dirty, perverted, disgraceful, etc.....not my idea of "Gay" at all.

Time changes everything.

In Victorian times it meant something else yet; in writing of that time, the term 'Gay lady' basically was a euphemism for a slut.

[JohnnyReb]

In Victorian times it meant something else yet; in writing of that time, the term 'Gay lady' basically was a euphemism for a slut.

I guess gay ladies and gay blades got together back then, huh.

[franksolich]

Okay, so I went and looked it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay

The term gay was originally used to refer to feelings of being "carefree", "happy", or "bright and showy"; it had also come to acquire some connotations of "immorality" as early as 1637.

The term's use as a reference to homosexuality may date as early as the late 19th century, but its use gradually increased in the 20th century.  In modern English, gay has come to be used as an adjective, and occasionally as a noun, referring to the people, practices, and culture associated with homosexuality. By the end of the 20th century, the word gay was recommended by major style guides to describe people attracted to members of the same sex. 

At about the same time, a new, pejorative use became prevalent in some parts of the world. In the Anglosphere, this connotation, among younger speakers, has a derisive meaning equivalent to rubbish or stupid (as in "That's so gay."). In this use the word does not mean "homosexual", so it can be used, for example, to refer to an inanimate object or abstract concept of which one disapproves. When used in this way, the extent to which it still retains connotations of homosexuality has been debated.

The word "gay" arrived in English during the 12th century from Old French gai, most likely deriving ultimately from a Germanic source.  For most of its life in English, the word's primary meaning was "joyful", "carefree", "bright and showy", and the word was very commonly used with this meaning in speech and literature. For example, the optimistic 1890s are still often referred to as the Gay Nineties. The title of the 1938 French ballet Gaîté Parisienne ("Parisian Gaiety"), which became the 1941 Warner Brothers movie, The Gay Parisian, also illustrates this connotation. It was apparently not until the 20th century that the word began to be used to mean specifically "homosexual", although it had earlier acquired sexual connotations.

The word had started to acquire associations of immorality by 1637 and was used in the late 17th century with the meaning "addicted to pleasures and dissipations."  This was by extension from the primary meaning of "carefree": implying "uninhibited by moral constraints." A gay woman was a prostitute, a gay man a womanizer and a gay house a brothel.

[vesta111]

Okay, so I went and looked it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay

To me Gay was the word for Dorian Gray.

Gay in the Revolutionary war are like Yankee Doodle, and the effeminate commanders of the  British Military at that time.

Story's of the Pirates that visited our coast up here way back when tell of filthy thread bared men who once in port took a bath and donned ruffles and bows.  Painting of those blood thirsty men show them wearing satin and lace.----    Sea Chanties, Barnacle Bill the Sailor and Bell Bottom Trousers let good girls to  know to never let a sailor an inch above their knee.----Good advise today, for some sailors their mistress is the Sea.

[PatriotGame]

As an aside - late to the game here - I rarely check my Hotmail account tied to my user account here BUTT...I just did and found this from 09/09/10 in my inbox:

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DON'T BE TALKING ABOUT PATRICK KENNEDY AND HIS FIANCE ON THIS FORUM OR YOU WILL GET SUED AND YOU COULD GET KILLED. PATRICK KENNEDY IS NOT GAY AND I HAVE STUDIED PSYCHOLOGY FOR 18 YEARS. I DO BELIEVE I KNOW WHAT THORAZINE IS, I DON'T NEED IT. DON'T EVER SAY THINGS ABOUT PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT YOU WILL GET IN SERIOUS TROUBLE. THANK YOU

Snarkle...

[Chris_]

Snarkle, indeed.

I never did hear from Kennedy's office.

[diesel driver]

Snarkle, indeed.

I never did hear from Kennedy's office.

I'll bet "queenie" hasn't either.   

[thundley4]

In Victorian times it meant something else yet; in writing of that time, the term 'Gay lady' basically was a euphemism for a slut.

That closely ties in with the definition now.  It seems most gay males prefer quantity over quality , making them sluts, in a way.

[true_blood]

Queenie sounds like a = 

[AllosaursRus]

That closely ties in with the definition now.  It seems most gay males prefer quantity over quality , making them sluts, in a way.

Be careful! ya don't want Kennedy's slip and fall attorneys after ya!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

[DumbAss Tanker]

That closely ties in with the definition now.  It seems most gay males prefer quantity over quality , making them sluts, in a way.

True, the main difference being that back then it lacked any particular homosexual connotatian.