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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on June 25, 2019, 01:57:30 PM
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Star Member berni_mccoy (21,160 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212218068
What is the current reason for not starting impeachment proceedings?
Asking for a friend.
:yawn:
Faux pas (8,057 posts)
1. No guts,
that is all.
Gothmog (69,305 posts)
3. Have 20 GOP senators decided to vote to remove trump yet?
edhopper (22,522 posts)
9. That is conviction
we have enough Congress People for Impeachment.
80 for
20 no sure
137 no
and that's just the [D]s...
Gothmog (69,305 posts)
19. We risk a number of moderate/swing seats going for impeachment without 20 GOP senate votes
Article of Impeachment are a stunt. Right now the polling shows only 27% favor an impeachment inquiry which is a far cry from actual article of impeachment. That number is up 10% percent from the prior polling which is some movement. 27% is not sufficient to win a congressional seat. Many moderate democrats are worried and for good reason. Right now it is my understanding that only 60+ house democrats favor an impeachment inquiry and that is not close to half of the caucus.
Moderate democrats have reason to worry
:fuelfire:
Rep. Collin Peterson (D-MN) will entertain the idea of impeaching President Trump when he’s sure enough votes exist in the GOP-controlled Senate to convict him. Which is to say, not anytime soon.
“We’re not anywhere close,” Peterson told The Daily Beast as he exited the House floor on Tuesday. He’s been pressing his colleagues in the House Democratic caucus to recognize that this simple fact should put impeachment fever to bed, for now. But he says he hasn’t had much luck.....
But political concerns clearly are a factor for Democratic moderates and the leadership that is closely following their re-election prospects. Pelosi, for starters, has fed the idea that Trump would welcome impeachment because it would fire up his base heading into the 2020 election. Impeachment proponents scoff at that argument, stressing that historical data isn’t conclusive that the public rallies to the president under fire. But polling data tends to show that the country right now isn’t enamored with the idea. A new survey from a Michigan-based pollster found in that key swing state, over 41 percent of voters strongly oppose impeachment, while 27 percent strongly supported.
The two seats that we flipped in Texas would likely be lost if we file articles of impeachment and trump is vindicated by a GOP controlled Senate.
I want to pick up additional house seats this term and not lose seats. Lizzie and Collin are both good people and it would be a shame to lose these House members. I have been on the phone with both of them (dialing for dollar calls) and they are class people. Collin was with Marc Elias' firm and was involved in the 2016 voter protection efforts.
I support Nancy Pelosi's position here. I also support calling witnesses to testify bout the Mueller report and seeing if we can get the polling to shift on the percentage of Americans who support an impeachment inquiry (which is a far cry from Article of Impeachment).
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Star Member berni_mccoy (21,160 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212218068
What is the current reason for not starting impeachment proceedings?
Asking for a friend.
Miss Nancy knows it would fail, either in the House or in the Senate. And she knows impeaching Trump would cost her the gavel and pretty much guarantee Trump's reelection.
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What is the current reason for not starting impeachment proceedings?
lack of any impeachable offense
Gothmog (69,305 posts)
19. We risk a number of moderate/swing seats going for impeachment without 20 GOP senate votes
That should be a warning signal to you DUmmies how stupid it would be to go down this road, but proceed at full speed if you feel you must.
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It would be a suicide run.
No matter what, people vote the economy. And it is REALLY good right now.
Just because they REALLY REALLY hate Donald Trump does not mean Real America agrees. That is the problem when you filter everything through a personal political lens.