POLITICAL CORRECTNESS

[Schadenfreude]

Interesting point Schade. 

Of course it is Mia. It's the best I could come up with at this early in the morning. 

[Strider]

It's more of their reaction to Obama Mia, they worship him.  The blind admiration of a man that I don't think any of them could honestly say they really know is kind of scary. One of the points I made in one thread was that Hitler wanted to speak to huge crowds because people get caught up in the moment and "feel" what is being said instead of "thinking" about it.  The speeches Obama has given to the huge adoring crowds give you no substance but you sure come away "feeling" Hope and Change.

Yes...I remember seeing many people stumble from the crowd with wide eyes mumbling "hope"...."change"....
Seriously though the whole rockstar image with girls and women fainting and chris mathews getting tingly feelings in his legs IS kinda creepy....

[Thor]

I agree, it is extremist.   We roll our eyes at the "rounding up the gays and executing them" comments the DU makes against the Republicans.    While I am gravely concerned about the socialist and isolationist policies the new Administration will attempt to exact on our Nation, he is not Hitler. 

I have had a hard time distinguishing between Liberals and Libertarians as of late......

THAT is going to piss some people off.

Yeah, it is .........   

I lean more towards the Libertarian side than the GOP.

[Wretched Excess]

Yeah, it is .........   

I lean more towards the Libertarian side than the GOP.

I think that libertarians are philosophically deranged.

[Thor]

I think that libertarians are philosophically deranged.

What you talking about, Willis ?!?!?!?

[Wretched Excess]

What you talking about, Willis ?!?!?!?

absolute liberty isn't attainable. not in the real world.

[Ptarmigan]

First of all all, Obama has a huge following, but he has no real clear plans yet, but is viewed as a messiah for change. Okay, maybe a few and he is not President yet. And no, I don't think he is Hitler, but he does have a demoagogic tendency though. One thing to point out is that Hitler was seen as a messiah who would help Germany, which was Weimar Republic at the time, and he had good intentions.

Godwin's Law in action. Godwin's Law does also apply to Stalin, Mao, and Bin Laden/September 11 Terrorsts. Also, I've the seen name Hitler thrown around in non-political instances, like calling the Florida school teacher Wendy Porillo, "Mrs. Hitler", "Mini Hitler", or "worse than Hitler". Or lumping Lori Drew with Hitler, Stalin, and 9/11 Terrorists.

[Chris_]

First of all all, Obama has a huge following, but he has no real clear plans yet, but is viewed as a messiah for change. Okay, maybe a few and he is not President yet. And no, I don't think he is Hitler, but he does have a demoagogic tendency though. One thing to point out is that Hitler was seen as a messiah who would help Germany, which was Weimar Republic at the time, and he had good intentions.

Godwin's Law in action. Godwin's Law does also apply to Stalin, Mao, and Bin Laden/September 11 Terrorsts. Also, I've the seen name Hitler thrown around in non-political instances, like calling the Florida school teacher Wendy Porillo, "Mrs. Hitler", "Mini Hitler", or "worse than Hitler". Or lumping Lori Drew with Hitler, Stalin, and 9/11 Terrorists.

I believe with ever fiber of my soul that der neuen fuhrer has plans that would make the 1938 version blush.  He will run his regime as he ran his campaign.  Opposition will NOT be brooked. He will assist Israel's enemies in removing it from the face of the planet.

He will be das fuhrer to me until his hopefully very short regime exists.  Godwin's Law be damned.

[Ptarmigan]

I believe with ever fiber of my soul that der neuen fuhrer has plans that would make the 1938 version blush.  He will run his regime as he ran his campaign.  Opposition will NOT be brooked. He will assist Israel's enemies in removing it from the face of the planet.

He will be das fuhrer to me until his hopefully very short regime exists.  Godwin's Law be damned.

I know what you mean. I predict Obama will be a one termer. Tell the truth, I think we will have a string of one term Presidents.

[Strider]

I know what you mean. I predict Obama will be a one termer. Tell the truth, I think we will have a string of one term Presidents.

Our country as it stands today seems, with a few exceptions, to be void of true leadership...I long for the day when the D.C swamp is drained...

[mamacags]

My newest law for governing my own behavior is this... If it isn't considered to be a no no in The Bible or The Constitution I will do/say whatever I please.

[Chris_]

My newest law for governing my own behavior is this... If it isn't considered to be a no no in The Bible or The Constitution I will do/say whatever I please.

The fuhrer will put a stop to that.

[mamacags]

The fuhrer will put a stop to that.

Obama can kiss my politically incorrect redneck ass.

[Chris_]

Obama can kiss my politically incorrect redneck ass.

Watch that kind of language starting February -- his Domestic Corps will be watching.

[mamacags]

Let them come.

[TheSarge]

Even the Civilian Defense Corps/Public Service stuff, to the small extent it isn't just vague blather, has been entirely harmless crap like beefing up volunteer programs like VISTA, Peace Corps, and so forth.

Perhaps you should read his comments a little more closely:

Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado about building a new civil service corps. Among other things, he called for expanding the nation's foreign service and doubling the size of the Peace Corps "to renew our diplomacy."
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said in July. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iRxZox4GFoIweckPDP1oRhKBlHOwD94CCDU00


That is NOT anything close to beefing up the Peace Corps.  And it hints that what he is wanting to do is NOT harmless.

[Strider]

Perhaps you should read his comments a little more closely:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iRxZox4GFoIweckPDP1oRhKBlHOwD94CCDU00


That is NOT anything close to beefing up the Peace Corps.  And it hints that what he is wanting to do is NOT harmless.

The National Security Force Has a nice Gestapo ring to it doesn't it.....
All domestic opposition to the Obama admin.will be controlled by the NSF

[TheSarge]

The National Security Force Has a nice Gestapo ring to it doesn't it.....
All domestic opposition to the Obama admin.will be controlled by the NSF

I hope the folks that reside in the 5 sided palace are taking note of these comments.

[Strider]

I hope the folks that reside in the 5 sided palace are taking note of these comments.

well...I have noticed a few ominous clicks amd hums on my cell phone recently.(post election)

[Ptarmigan]

The National Security Force Has a nice Gestapo ring to it doesn't it.....
All domestic opposition to the Obama admin.will be controlled by the NSF

Speaking of NSF, there was a terrorist group called NSF in Deus Ex.

[Chris_]

Perhaps you should read his comments a little more closely:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iRxZox4GFoIweckPDP1oRhKBlHOwD94CCDU00


That is NOT anything close to beefing up the Peace Corps.  And it hints that what he is wanting to do is NOT harmless.

Thus my sig.

[TheSarge]

well...I have noticed a few ominous clicks amd hums on my cell phone recently.(post election)

No what I meant was that I hope that they notice that Obama is planning on circumventing them.

Red flags should be going up from The Pentagon to Foggy Bottom.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Perhaps you should read his comments a little more closely:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iRxZox4GFoIweckPDP1oRhKBlHOwD94CCDU00


That is NOT anything close to beefing up the Peace Corps.  And it hints that what he is wanting to do is NOT harmless.

I still think you're freaking out.  In addition to talking about the Peace Corps and other volunteer organizations, that's in the context of talking about civil service, you know, like LEOs?  The Foreign Service is technically something distinct, but for all intents and purposes still appropriated fund government employees, and it's entirely consistent with the (somewhat stupid) idea of treating a lot more of the terrorism threat as a law enforcement and diplomacy issue rather than as a military one.  Your panicking is premature, and about as silly as the DUers constantly slapping the panic button over 'Marshall Law' because of the current Administration's predilection for pursuing military options.

A true totalitarian move that WOULD set off alarm bells would be if he instituted some kind of paramilitary or parapolice force that answered to his party, and not to the machinery of government.   

[TheSarge]

I still think you're freaking out.  In addition to talking about the Peace Corps and other volunteer organizations, that's in the context of talking about civil service, you know, like LEOs?  The Foreign Service is technically something distinct, but for all intents and purposes still appropriated fund government employees, and it's entirely consistent with the (somewhat stupid) idea of treating a lot more of the terrorism threat as a law enforcement and diplomacy issue rather than as a military one.  Your panicking is premature, and about as silly as the DUers constantly slapping the panic button over 'Marshall Law' because of the current Administration's predilection for pursuing military options.

A true totalitarian move that WOULD set off alarm bells would be if he instituted some kind of paramilitary or parapolice force that answered to his party, and not to the machinery of government.   

The thing is...he didn't mention in the remarks that I saw anything about what you said above. 

He distinctly said "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

If he was talking about the civilian LEO's that we have in place he'd have said that they needed to be beefed up.

But he didn't.

[DumbAss Tanker]

The thing is...he didn't mention in the remarks that I saw anything about what you said above. 

He distinctly said "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

If he was talking about the civilian LEO's that we have in place he'd have said that they needed to be beefed up.

But he didn't.

The preface to the part you quoted, which you quoted in full earlier:

Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado about building a new civil service corps. Among other things, he called for expanding the nation's foreign service and doubling the size of the Peace Corps "to renew our diplomacy."
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said in July. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Maybe he meant something besides what it sounds like, but to me civil service means direct instruments of the government, including DMV clerks, LEOs, firemen, and all the other bureaucrats and serviceworkers that keep shit going, lovable or not.  Civic service would be something different and implies individual willing action rather than serving as instruments of an organized government effort, but that isn't what he said.  I'm willing to wait until he actually proposes something specific that crosses the line before I slap the shiny red button.