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POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« on: November 14, 2008, 07:56:40 PM »
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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2008, 08:17:34 PM »
My daughter's high school went to state in Football. I don't have the official story, just heresay at this point. Turns out their star player dropped the N word in reference to Obama a few weeks ago. He was suspended and kicked off the football team so he couldn't play in the State playoffs. Yeah, the kid messed up and said something stupid, show me a teenager who doesn't say dumb things.

Not excusing the use of the N word, but I sense the outrage is selective on the part of the teachers.
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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2008, 08:20:33 PM »
My daughter's high school went to state in Football. I don't have the official story, just heresay at this point. Turns out their star player dropped the N word in reference to Obama a few weeks ago. He was suspended and kicked off the football team so he couldn't play in the State playoffs. Yeah, the kid messed up and said something stupid, show me a teenager who doesn't say dumb things.

Not excusing the use of the N word, but I sense the outrage is selective on the part of the teachers.

high school students shouldn't be expected to understand the real world, first of all.

but, yes, there is no coming back from  the "N" word.

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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2008, 08:53:31 PM »
My daughter's high school went to state in Football. I don't have the official story, just heresay at this point. Turns out their star player dropped the N word in reference to Obama a few weeks ago. He was suspended and kicked off the football team so he couldn't play in the State playoffs. Yeah, the kid messed up and said something stupid, show me a teenager who doesn't say dumb things.

Not excusing the use of the N word, but I sense the outrage is selective on the part of the teachers.

 In a year he will be  put against the wall and shot for defiling the Fuhrer!!! :mo:

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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2008, 08:59:39 PM »

I am getting a bit weary of the equation of the president elect to hitler.

he isn't hitler. 

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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2008, 09:02:30 PM »
I am getting a bit weary of the equation of the president elect to hitler.

he isn't hitler. 
Not yet anyway....
Can you say Civil Defense Corps???

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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2008, 09:08:29 PM »
Not yet anyway....
Can you say Civil Defense Corps???

it hasn't happened yet.


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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2008, 09:25:16 PM »
it hasn't happened yet.


And it very well may not...
But the very mention of it SHOULD raise suspicion especially  when we already have a National Guard.

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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2008, 09:52:36 PM »
And it very well may not...
But the very mention of it SHOULD raise suspicion especially  when we already have a National Guard.

the differences between the libertarians and the conservatives will, I admit, diminish.

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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2008, 10:49:03 PM »
I personally don't see the N word as all that offensive.  It is certainly no more offensive than some words I can think of.
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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2008, 06:40:35 AM »
I am getting a bit weary of the equation of the president elect to hitler.

he isn't hitler. 

Fuhrer is "leader" in German. The president elect is the leader........................
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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2008, 06:49:56 AM »
I am getting a bit weary of the equation of the president elect to hitler.

he isn't hitler. 


I agree, it is extremist.   We roll our eyes at the "rounding up the gays and executing them" comments the DU makes against the Republicans.    While I am gravely concerned about the socialist and isolationist policies the new Administration will attempt to exact on our Nation, he is not Hitler. 

I have had a hard time distinguishing between Liberals and Libertarians as of late......

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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2008, 07:54:06 AM »

I agree, it is extremist.   We roll our eyes at the "rounding up the gays and executing them" comments the DU makes against the Republicans.    While I am gravely concerned about the socialist and isolationist policies the new Administration will attempt to exact on our Nation, he is not Hitler. 

I have had a hard time distinguishing between Liberals and Libertarians as of late......

THAT is going to piss some people off. :-)

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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2008, 09:03:34 AM »
I am getting a bit weary of the equation of the president elect to hitler.

he isn't hitler. 

I agree, it's totally over the top and seriously detracts from the credibility of those repeating it.  Even the Civilian Defense Corps/Public Service stuff, to the small extent it isn't just vague blather, has been entirely harmless crap like beefing up volunteer programs like VISTA, Peace Corps, and so forth.

It's kind of a Little Boy Who Cried Wolf situation right now, so many people are yelling "Hitler" over nothing that if he did actually try some extra-Constitutional power play (And I don't think he will, he can screw up the country just fine without going that far), it'd be impossible to ratchet up the alarm.
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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2008, 09:34:49 AM »
I agree, it's totally over the top and seriously detracts from the credibility of those repeating it.  Even the Civilian Defense Corps/Public Service stuff, to the small extent it isn't just vague blather, has been entirely harmless crap like beefing up volunteer programs like VISTA, Peace Corps, and so forth.

It's kind of a Little Boy Who Cried Wolf situation right now, so many people are yelling "Hitler" over nothing that if he did actually try some extra-Constitutional power play (And I don't think he will, he can screw up the country just fine without going that far), it'd be impossible to ratchet up the alarm.

I agree.  As also a member at DU, I find that when people use these silly names and call Bush = Hilter it ruins the whole arguement that the said poster has.  I find that it's silly and stupid to use these "nicknames" and I've never done it myself.  If someone has to resort to name calling it means they cannot back up their arguement, at least to me it does. 


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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2008, 09:50:22 AM »
I agree, it's totally over the top and seriously detracts from the credibility of those repeating it.  Even the Civilian Defense Corps/Public Service stuff, to the small extent it isn't just vague blather, has been entirely harmless crap like beefing up volunteer programs like VISTA, Peace Corps, and so forth.

It's kind of a Little Boy Who Cried Wolf situation right now, so many people are yelling "Hitler" over nothing that if he did actually try some extra-Constitutional power play (And I don't think he will, he can screw up the country just fine without going that far), it'd be impossible to ratchet up the alarm.

I have twice posted about Hilter and Obama but I have specifically said I wasn't calling Obama Hitler.  What I was referring to rather was the crowds response to Hitler and Obama.  Their faith in both men to cure all that is wrong in their world is eerily similar.  These people (No I'm not talking about people like you MIA  :p ) think Obama will do the impossible and fix everything that is wrong in their lives so they will allow him to make any mistake, no matter how huge, that no other president would ever get away with. 

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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2008, 09:55:39 AM »
I agree.  As also a member at DU, I find that when people use these silly names and call Bush = Hilter it ruins the whole arguement that the said poster has.  I find that it's silly and stupid to use these "nicknames" and I've never done it myself.  If someone has to resort to name calling it means they cannot back up their arguement, at least to me it does. 



Ok...First of all I dont think he is Hitler either,
but to date no one can tell me who Obama is, what he stands for or why they voted for him, I have followed him with great interest and have come to the conclusion he is an empty suit with a pretty mouth. He has not a bit of substance as far as I can see which is why his retoric to me is so dangerous. He grew up in a third world country with 3rd world ideas...He has  no leadership  experience, and is suspected of maintaining relationships with people of questionable character... hardly the resume for the leader of the greatest industrialized nation in the world, And people follow him like he is the..for lack of a better term a prophet. I only use the term Hitler to remind people that history has heard this rhetoric before. as far as Franken is concerned?....DAMN.....he is an idiot, I have listened to the man.

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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2008, 10:18:26 AM »
Maybe it's because I've read for years on DU how Bush = Hitler/fascist/Nazi that I've become tired of the whole thing.

Sure, Hilter had huge crowds of supporters and was a great orator.  Obama has huge crowds of supporters and is a great orator.  Got it.  I have a hard time taking anyone seriously when they call Bush "Hitler" or Obama "Fuhrer". 
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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2008, 10:29:11 AM »
Maybe it's because I've read for years on DU how Bush = Hitler/fascist/Nazi that I've become tired of the whole thing.

Sure, Hilter had huge crowds of supporters and was a great orator.  Obama has huge crowds of supporters and is a great orator.  Got it. 

It's more of their reaction to Obama Mia, they worship him.  The blind admiration of a man that I don't think any of them could honestly say they really know is kind of scary. One of the points I made in one thread was that Hitler wanted to speak to huge crowds because people get caught up in the moment and "feel" what is being said instead of "thinking" about it.  The speeches Obama has given to the huge adoring crowds give you no substance but you sure come away "feeling" Hope and Change.

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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2008, 10:33:20 AM »
I think the issue is really about the right and responsibility to question our leaders. Obviously Hitler is at the extreme end and it is only a matter of Godwin's law that he will be mentioned at some point in a thread.  :-)

The people at DU didn't trust Bush's motives and couldn't understand how the majority of the nation seemingly followed him without question. Conservatives don't feel like they really know Obama or his motives and don't understand how the people are willing to follow him and ask no questions.

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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2008, 10:36:35 AM »
I think the issue is really about the right and responsibility to question our leaders. Obviously Hitler is at the extreme end and it is only a matter of Godwin's law that he will be mentioned at some point in a thread.  :-)

The people at DU didn't trust Bush's motives and couldn't understand how the majority of the nation seemingly followed him without question. Conservatives don't feel like they really know Obama or his motives and don't understand how the people are willing to follow him and ask no questions.




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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2008, 10:37:43 AM »
It's more of their reaction to Obama Mia, they worship him.  The blind admiration of a man that I don't think any of them could honestly say they really know is kind of scary. One of the points I made in one thread was that Hitler wanted to speak to huge crowds because people get caught up in the moment and "feel" what is being said instead of "thinking" about it.  The speeches Obama has given to the huge adoring crowds give you no substance but you sure come away "feeling" Hope and Change.


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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2008, 10:42:00 AM »
I think the issue is really about the right and responsibility to question our leaders. Obviously Hitler is at the extreme end and it is only a matter of Godwin's law that he will be mentioned at some point in a thread.  :-)

The people at DU didn't trust Bush's motives and couldn't understand how the majority of the nation seemingly followed him without question. Conservatives don't feel like they really know Obama or his motives and don't understand how the people are willing to follow him and ask no questions.



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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2008, 10:46:31 AM »
Maybe it's because I've read for years on DU how Bush = Hitler/fascist/Nazi that I've become tired of the whole thing.

Sure, Hilter had huge crowds of supporters and was a great orator.  Obama has huge crowds of supporters and is a great orator.  Got it.  I have a hard time taking anyone seriously when they call Bush "Hitler" or Obama "Fuhrer". 
I don't drink from the radical fountain and I don't think for a moment this country will become a remake of 1938 Germany, but you gotta admit some things are hell and gone from society built on the ideas of freedom and democracy...
How about the number of people who have been publicly ridiculed and chastised  by his followers for speaking out against his ideas, 1 is too many.
How about the medias lack of scrutiny of his past.
How about his idea that the Constitution is fundamental flawed.(maybe not so Hitler like but still).
This whole Civil Defense corps thing did it for me. Why is this an issue so soon after the election when we have a National Guard that does the exact same thing?
Reagan was a great speaker and had a huge number followers but he had rock solid ideas and was FUNDAMENTALY for the American way of life...can the same be said of Obama and most importantly his followers?

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Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2008, 10:47:11 AM »
You are so brilliant......I haven't told you that since yesterday.

I think what we spoke about yesterday was exceptionalism and excellence. Oh yes, perfection too.  :lmao:
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