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Offline LC EFA

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America Has Not the Resources Nor the Moral Authority
« on: February 03, 2009, 03:54:04 AM »
Nothing like a bit of self loathing and ignorance to keep the stomach boiling.

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tekisui  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Mon Feb-02-09 09:39 AM
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America Has Not the Resources Nor the Moral Authority to be the World's Police Force   Updated at 6:12 PM
   
We need to get out of the business of regime change. We need to get out of the business of being Occupiers. We need to get out of the hypocritical practice of picking one reprehensible, oppressive group to 'fight' or 'destroy', while ignoring ALL of the others in the world. We need to get away from the idea that there is such a thing as a 'right war'.

The 8 year Occupation Adventures in Afghanistan and Iraq have driven this country into a depression; economically, morally and psychologically. Militarism is destroying us from the inside and weakening our security. There is no military solution to Afghanistan. The sooner we realize that, the better off we will be. Escalating will only make it worse.

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Fovea  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)     Mon Feb-02-09 09:43 AM
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1. The founding fathers
   
were not in favor of a standing army

but you don't hear the heritage foundation, or the federalist society go on much about that.

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tekisui  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-02-09 09:49 AM
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4. The Taliban did not attack us.   Updated at 6:12 PM
   
Al-qaeda did. The Taliban offered to hand those who did atack us over, but we declined, choosing invasion.

If you think we can kill all of the Taliban, or groups of other names that act the same way as the Taliban, you are mistaken. We can kill some, but more are recruited everyday. We provide recruitment talking points everyday we continue. The Taliban and other extremist live in the mountains, and can wait out, regroup and defeat any army. They have been for centuries. What makes you think that the US is any different?

Their offer was a delaying tactic and not made in good faith, or acceptable conditions.

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Vattel  (771 posts) Mon Feb-02-09 07:31 PM
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54. The problem with using our resources
   
to build infrastructure rather than fighting a war in Afhanistan is that the benefits are certain rather than speculative and we don't have to kill innocent civilians to do it. Hardly the American way IMHO.

 :o Just how mentally messed up does one have to be to think this way ?

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tekisui  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Mon Feb-02-09 06:06 PM
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51. Welcome to the 21st century.    Updated at 6:12 PM
   
Our days as a super power are over.

EFerrari  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-02-09 04:38 PM
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50. The world doesn't need any more crooked cops.
 
martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-02-09 07:05 PM
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52. I agree with that 100%
   
Our imperialism must end.

Can one question their patriotism now ?
 
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Re: America Has Not the Resources Nor the Moral Authority
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2009, 03:59:08 AM »
"Our imperialism must end."....let communism (& Islam) begin.
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Re: America Has Not the Resources Nor the Moral Authority
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2009, 05:05:58 AM »
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Our days as a super power are over.

Only if Hopey McChangeSnorter gets his way . . .
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Re: America Has Not the Resources Nor the Moral Authority
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2009, 05:25:35 AM »
One can make several arguments against imperialism, but (as WFB Jr said) the countries that get imperialized are usually better off under imperialism than otherwise. Compare Uganda in the old neo-colonial says to the way it has been run since, for example.
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Re: America Has Not the Resources Nor the Moral Authority
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2009, 05:40:40 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on February 03, 2009, 05:05:58 AM
Only if Hopey McChangeSnorter gets his way . . .


Hah. I like that one.
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Re: America Has Not the Resources Nor the Moral Authority
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2009, 05:59:22 AM »
SO what do they think of FDR declaring war on Germany when Germany had not attacked us and we were in the middle of a depression and had a segregated army and society?
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Re: America Has Not the Resources Nor the Moral Authority
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2009, 06:03:48 AM »
Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on February 03, 2009, 05:59:22 AM
SO what do they think of FDR declaring war on Germany when Germany had not attacked us and we were in the middle of a depression and had a segregated army and society?

Germany declared war on the US. 
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Re: America Has Not the Resources Nor the Moral Authority
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2009, 08:20:40 AM »
Any nation who would view their own national security in the manner that the tekisui primitive does would be a nation that would be constantly at the mercy of any force wishing to impose its will upon them, and would result in that nation having a short shelf life.

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Re: America Has Not the Resources Nor the Moral Authority
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2009, 10:43:09 AM »
Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on February 03, 2009, 05:59:22 AM
SO what do they think of FDR declaring war on Germany when Germany had not attacked us and we were in the middle of a depression and had a segregated army and society?

I'll take "A democrat president can do only good" for $2000 Alex.
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Re: America Has Not the Resources Nor the Moral Authority
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2009, 10:14:13 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on February 03, 2009, 05:05:58 AM
Only if Hopey McChangeSnorter gets his way . . .

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Re: America Has Not the Resources Nor the Moral Authority
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2009, 05:00:22 AM »
Quote from: formerlurker on February 03, 2009, 06:03:48 AM
Germany declared war on the US. 
Very true but the DUmmies need to realize that Al Qaeda did too and so did Saddam but their ability to invade and occupy is about the same as Germany's: zero, the sole criteria for DUmmie military intervention. Yet, what they can do to other nations as well as sending saboteurs is the central point of their being a threat to the US...as well as a moral cause.
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