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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #50 on: February 27, 2018, 07:58:15 AM »
It's the the depleted Unobtanium that makes it so destructive and deadly!

BTW, I tested and aligned a couple hundred A-10 Projection Units (HUDs) back in '79-'80, when the A-10s were still in production.

So you were the one responsible for the accuracy of those evil AmeriKKKan weapons of war who shot up schools, weddings, baby milk factory's and hospitals of a peace loving people who's only crime was to have oil as a natural resource. You bastard!  :cheersmate:
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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #51 on: February 27, 2018, 07:59:03 AM »
I have one of the old Ruger carbines in .44 Mag, great little rifle.  Don't like their new ones (too much plastic and I think they're only doing 9mm now).

The 'Deerfield' .44s are a hard to find, did see one at a gun show this weekend, but definitely pricey.  As far as .45 goes, rumor has it that Ruger completed all the technical work and engineering for their carbine, a 'PC45' which I do remember seeing in prototype-announcement form many years ago in American Rifleman, but then just never made any of them for some reason.  Options are pretty limited if you want a .45, I don't think Marlin makes the Camp 45 anymore but there are some used ones around (Pricey though), or there is the MEC 1911 upper.  Don't know if the HiPoint is available in .45 or not, but the MEC and HiPoint are not the most visually appealing guns in the world, although they are a dream for a project-freak like me.  In 9mm, on the other hand, there are a ton of options.

I do have a Rossi .357 lever action and a couple of revolvers that share the round.  I've seen M1 carbine conversions for .357 and have a PMC gun and the parts to do the job (Including some Coonan mags), but it isn't going to happen for at least a couple of years for me.

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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #52 on: February 27, 2018, 09:38:56 AM »


Looks like a happy shooter!  One other guy in my deer camp has one of the newer Ruger .44 Magnums.  He's our oldest member, at about 80 years old.  Still gets around pretty good.

Where do you go hog hunting, cats?
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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #53 on: February 28, 2018, 03:23:39 AM »
Looks like a happy shooter!  One other guy in my deer camp has one of the newer Ruger .44 Magnums.  He's our oldest member, at about 80 years old.  Still gets around pretty good.

Where do you go hog hunting, cats?

I used to go to Wild Hill in Vermont until the liberal loons run him out. Tioga in Penn is OK but kinda canned. Getting to expensive.
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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #54 on: February 28, 2018, 10:17:09 AM »
Here it is.
Proof positive.

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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #55 on: February 28, 2018, 10:23:05 AM »
Here it is.
Proof positive.



Wondering about reloads can you tell me if that is Boxer or Berdan primed???  :cheersmate:
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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #56 on: February 28, 2018, 01:46:27 PM »
Here it is.
Proof positive.



Is this made by the ACME Ammunition Company?  There's some coyote that wants to know . . .

I found this little item about the use of an AR-15-style rifle, just now.

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Man Armed with AR-15 Stops Attack by Neighbor in Oswego, Ill.

I'm providing the link, as the story's in the video at the link.

https://news.grabien.com/story-man-armed-ar-15-stops-attack-neighbor-oswego-ill?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=idealmedia&utm_campaign=grabien.com&utm_term=68738&utm_content=2196706

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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #57 on: February 28, 2018, 08:17:46 PM »
Wondering about reloads can you tell me if that is Boxer or Berdan primed???  :cheersmate:
Neither, 67. It's electric.  Acme makes all components.

Is this made by the ACME Ammunition Company?  There's some coyote that wants to know . . .

I found this little item about the use of an AR-15-style rifle, just now.

I'm providing the link, as the story's in the video at the link.

https://news.grabien.com/story-man-armed-ar-15-stops-attack-neighbor-oswego-ill?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=idealmedia&utm_campaign=grabien.com&utm_term=68738&utm_content=2196706
       

Acme it is.  :yahoo:
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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #58 on: February 28, 2018, 08:30:02 PM »
Neither, 67. It's electric.  Acme makes all components.
       

Acme it is.  :yahoo:

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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #59 on: February 28, 2018, 10:32:14 PM »


I want to know what killed that hog.  Did it keel over dead from fright when you vaporized one of its buddies?  Was it hit by bone fragments from another hog that didn't vaporize completely?  Or was simply waving your death stick at it enough to give it a heart attack?  Just wondering if I need to start considering the carom effect of partially vaporized deer the next time I go hunting.  Hate to exceed my tag limit due to improper vaporization.

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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #60 on: February 28, 2018, 10:34:29 PM »


That hog does not look vaporized. If that hog was vaporized, than bullets should vaporize rabbits or ermines.
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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #61 on: March 01, 2018, 04:19:38 AM »
That hogs brain was vaporized.
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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #62 on: March 01, 2018, 05:05:37 AM »
That hogs brain was vaporized.

Anybody's would be, partially, if it was hit with a 240-grain 'headache pill.' :whistling:
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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #63 on: March 01, 2018, 06:27:49 AM »
Anybody's would be, partially, if it was hit with a 240-grain 'headache pill.' :whistling:

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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #64 on: October 26, 2020, 04:08:18 AM »
Bringing this topic back up because I was reminded of it recently.
While I always knew this DUmmy's story was a load of crap, two weeks ago I got extra confirmation of what a lie it was.
My parents and brother, over the last few months, have gotten more interested in gun ownership, largely as a way of protecting themselves with all the social unrest growing. My brother bought an AR- 15, and my parents each got a pistol.
Two weeks ago, we all went out to the shooting range. While I don't own a firearm myself (Never felt the need to, though I have no problem with others legally and responsibly doing so), I figured at least learning to shoot could be a useful skill in an emergency, similar to learning how to change a car tire.
We were of course using plain paper bullseye- type targets for our shooting. When we finished, the paper target my brother had been shooting at with his AR- 15 had a lot of holes from where his bullets had hit it (He was a pretty good shot), but was otherwise whole and in one piece.
If the DUmmy's BS story were true and an AR- 15 could "Vaporize" a wild hog, surely my brother's flimsy little paper target would have been completely obliterated!
In short, DUmmies lie, all the time.

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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #65 on: October 26, 2020, 08:28:36 AM »
I think one of The Cave's worthies got himself a Hog Vaporizer. :fuelfire:
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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #66 on: November 01, 2020, 05:23:38 PM »
Just remember that people who think they are really smart are the easiest to fool.  DUchebags think they are really smart.

This from the long ago but I seam to remember that a British guy with a 303 Enfield held two records. One was for shooting like 35 rounds in a minute. Tough to do with a bolt action rifle and reloading it. Two was that he put a hole in a rail tie with his Enfield. Both are pretty tall tales. But the Brits loved their Enfields.

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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #67 on: November 02, 2020, 06:25:26 AM »
Just remember that people who think they are really smart are the easiest to fool.  DUchebags think they are really smart.

This from the long ago but I seam to remember that a British guy with a 303 Enfield held two records. One was for shooting like 35 rounds in a minute. Tough to do with a bolt action rifle and reloading it. Two was that he put a hole in a rail tie with his Enfield. Both are pretty tall tales. But the Brits loved their Enfields.

Firing 35 rounds in a minute seems possible, If you fired 35 rounds in 30 seconds, that would give you 5 seconds to reload 6 times as the gun holds 5 rounds.
If you had the stripper clips laid out next to you it should be possible

As for punching a hole in a tie I am not so sure about that as the .303 isn't a really block buster say like the 30-06
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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #68 on: November 02, 2020, 08:12:07 AM »
Firing 35 rounds in a minute seems possible, If you fired 35 rounds in 30 seconds, that would give you 5 seconds to reload 6 times as the gun holds 5 rounds.
If you had the stripper clips laid out next to you it should be possible

As for punching a hole in a tie I am not so sure about that as the .303 isn't a really block buster say like the 30-06

The 'Smelly' has a 10-round detachable mag, though normally reloaded from two five-round strippers at a time (I've tried to speed-swap an Enfield mag, let's just say it doesn't lend itself to the process), it'd be 2-1/2 reloads using the strippers.  I think loading two strippers at a time would still be faster than two separate five-round stripper reloads like in a Mauser-system rifle.  The .303 ballistics are pretty similar to the .30-06, when loaded with the same weight of bullet, but the most common WW2 and after loads were the Brit Mk VII for the .303 and the M2 Ball for the '06, in those loadings basically the Mk VII shoots a 20+ gr. heavier bullet but at about 300 fps slower, so it's kind of situational about whether weight or velocity is more important as far as target effect goes (There were other models in use at different times, with higher velocities, heavier bullets, or both for both rounds, but mostly those were used up or prohibited for rifle use by the time WW2 ended).
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Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
« Reply #69 on: November 02, 2020, 09:44:20 AM »
Funny thing is I have received two videos of AR-15's in the last year or so. Both my sons own one.  One is my little bitty ex-wife.  ( I wish I didn't have to say ex, but we separated amicably.)  Anyways, if she's wearing wet clothes she weighs in at about 110 lbs.  They were at a shooting range and my son was setting her all up to fire it.  He told her to hold it tight to her shoulder, he backs off and she fires.  All she said was "Woah".  The funniest part is my son immediately say "Finger off the trigger"   The second video was of my daughter in law, (wife of this same son) she is shooting his AR-15 at 4" swinging metal plates.  In the video you can hear the "Ting, ting ting"  of each shot striking home.  After seeing that I just told my son, "Don't piss her off or stay out of range if you do.  :)