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Title: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: FunkyZero on February 23, 2018, 08:20:58 PM
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Fri Feb 23, 2018, 08:28 PM
joem777 (22 posts)


My experience with the ar15. I learned my lesson
Just wanted to share my experience with the ar15 and how it changed me. If you feel the need to tell me how horrible of a person I was or am after reading it, feel free to do so I deserve every bit of it.

Trigger warning, this post contains graphic hunting content.

I've always been a strong advocate in eating as much organic food as I can. I started hunting deer and wild pigs to put organic meat in the freezer, wholefoods is just too expensive and I can't afford their organic meat. I always used a Winchester lever action 30-30 to hunt with, never had an issue with clean harvests and minimal meat damage.

Early last summer I was reading an article in field and stream (a fishing and hutning magazine) about the 223 ar15 and how great it was for hunting. I (now regretable) went out and bought one along with some 55gr soft point bullets.

Fast forward to last sept, I went out on a pig hunt with that ar15. After many hours of stalking I finally got an oppertunity at a large hog that was at least 280 pounds (estimated from my previous hunting experience). After I setteld in for the shot and took it at 90 yards with open sights I went to retrieve my pig. What I witnessed later changed my life for ever. The pig was virtually vaporized, the only things that were left were guts and a small part of the hind quarter. I literally cried and sobbed for a good hour. How did I get to the point where I got radicalized by a magazine and went out and bought such a powerful weapon of war? Especially since my trusty lever action 30-30 was doing the job without vaporizing pigs.

Two weeks after that I was successful in finding a gun buy back being run by a police department 200 miles away. I called and ask them to reassure me that the weapon would be destroyed, they did. $ I got $100 for the ar15 (I paid $700). I don't care about the money that I lost honestly, I just wanted it gone and feeling emmotional every time I looked at it.

I'm so tramutized by my experience that I have been unable to return hunting and or eat red meat. Lets just say I've been eating a lot of soy tofu lately. I actually started doing yoga as well to help me cope and it has been amazing, although I do get some weird looks from all the women there. Still own my Winchester 30-30 along with a 6 shot revolver from the 1960's. Like I said before I learned my lesson.

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Response to joem777 (Original post)Fri Feb 23, 2018, 08:39 PM
Star Member enough (10,415 posts)
3. Thank you for writing this. It's interesting how it parallels the narratives of
people working in emergency rooms and of combat veterans.

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Response to joem777 (Original post)Fri Feb 23, 2018, 08:47 PM
Star Member Phoenix61 (3,706 posts)

8. Not trying to tell you what to do but
post this everywhere! People do not understand what that weapon of war does. I had a dumbass last night tell me that the AR-15 does less damage than a Glock. WTF!!! His theory was it's a higher power bullet so it flies through a human body doing less damage than the Glock. Maybe somebody who still owns an AR-15 could shoot a pig and post the video on YouTube. I know it's cruel to the pig but maybe then people would ****ing get it. Bless you for having the gun destroyed. And yes, yoga rocks. I always liked it when guys would come to yoga class.
PS Thanks for sharing
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Response to joem777 (Original post)Fri Feb 23, 2018, 09:14 PM
RandomAccess (2,358 posts)

18. I could hug you

I see a number of naysayers, but I have no reason not to believe you. I've also read the accounts of several ER doctors who worked on the Parkland kids last week. What I remember most is a shot to the liver did so much damage "there was nothing left to repair" so it became a fatal wound.

I'm really sorry you were traumatized, but I'm so glad you've shared it with us and hope you'll share it with others too. MANY, many others.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: Maverick1987 on February 23, 2018, 08:45:38 PM
I've had about all I can stand from these folks who don't have the first clue what they're talking about.  This gun thing has brought out more idiocy than anything I've ever seen.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: BattleHymn on February 23, 2018, 08:57:37 PM
Holy shit, that was funny.   :rotf: 

Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: DUmpsterDiver on February 23, 2018, 09:03:32 PM
These retards never disappoint.  One small glance into basic chemistry and mechanical containment with access to household common oxidizers and fuel, bad things can easily be made to happen.  Such pedantic retards they are.

The retarded left is redundant.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: Delmar on February 23, 2018, 09:23:18 PM
How come none of the kids that have been getting shot have been vaporized?
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: 67 Rover on February 23, 2018, 09:27:52 PM
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Fri Feb 23, 2018, 08:28 PM
joem777 (22 posts)


My experience with the ar15. I learned my lesson
Just wanted to share my experience with the ar15 and how it changed me. If you feel the need to tell me how horrible of a person I was or am after reading it, feel free to do so I deserve every bit of it.

Trigger warning, this post contains graphic hunting content.

I've always been a strong advocate in eating as much organic food as I can. I started hunting deer and wild pigs to put organic meat in the freezer, wholefoods is just too expensive and I can't afford their organic meat. I always used a Winchester lever action 30-30 to hunt with, never had an issue with clean harvests and minimal meat damage.

Early last summer I was reading an article in field and stream (a fishing and hutning magazine) about the 223 ar15 and how great it was for hunting. I (now regretable) went out and bought one along with some 55gr soft point bullets.

Fast forward to last sept, I went out on a pig hunt with that ar15. After many hours of stalking I finally got an oppertunity at a large hog that was at least 280 pounds (estimated from my previous hunting experience). After I setteld in for the shot and took it at 90 yards with open sights I went to retrieve my pig. What I witnessed later changed my life for ever. The pig was virtually vaporized, the only things that were left were guts and a small part of the hind quarter. I literally cried and sobbed for a good hour. How did I get to the point where I got radicalized by a magazine and went out and bought such a powerful weapon of war? Especially since my trusty lever action 30-30 was doing the job without vaporizing pigs.

Two weeks after that I was successful in finding a gun buy back being run by a police department 200 miles away. I called and ask them to reassure me that the weapon would be destroyed, they did. $ I got $100 for the ar15 (I paid $700). I don't care about the money that I lost honestly, I just wanted it gone and feeling emmotional every time I looked at it.

I'm so tramutized by my experience that I have been unable to return hunting and or eat red meat. Lets just say I've been eating a lot of soy tofu lately. I actually started doing yoga as well to help me cope and it has been amazing, although I do get some weird looks from all the women there. Still own my Winchester 30-30 along with a 6 shot revolver from the 1960's. Like I said before I learned my lesson.

Dafuq did I just read?  A .223 doing more damage than a 30-30 (.309 dia)???  :banghead:
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 23, 2018, 09:32:46 PM
Dafuq did I just read?  A .223 doing more damage than a 30-30 (.309 dia)???  :banghead:

Gotta be somebody from arf screwing with them.

 :rotf:
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: Skul on February 23, 2018, 10:35:45 PM
Not my mole.   :whistling:
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: Texacon on February 23, 2018, 10:46:57 PM
 :mental:

 :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Holy shit!  OMG that’s hilarious!!  That post should go viral to warn errybody!!!


KC
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: dutch508 on February 23, 2018, 10:47:11 PM
280 lbs of pig- larger than most men (non-DUmpmonkiez that is) VIPERIZED by a .223 softpoint round from an AR-15 at 90 meters.

the 30-30 round, which is .30 cal compared to the .223 cal, a larger round, doesn't VAPORIZE pigs...



 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

OMG.... they are just ****ing idiots....
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: BattleHymn on February 23, 2018, 10:50:29 PM
Annnd, it's gone.   :rofl:
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: catsmtrods on February 23, 2018, 11:32:54 PM
Idiots postulating!  It's been a very entertaining week.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: ColonelCarrots on February 24, 2018, 03:05:41 AM
5.56 is not a big round at all. If it vaporized a hog I'm impressed and an idiot.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: SVPete on February 24, 2018, 06:03:50 AM
 :rotf:  :owned:  :owned:  :owned:  :owned:  :owned:  :rotf:
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: Old n Grumpy on February 24, 2018, 06:34:33 AM
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Trigger warning, this post contains graphic hunting content.  Very thoughtful to add a  trigger warning when talking about guns!  :thatsright:

I've always been a strong advocate in eating as much organic food as I can. I started hunting deer and wild pigs to put organic meat in the freezer, So he goes out and kills Bambi and PPPPporky pig.
:loser:

In reality the only way  this happened is if he was using an M16 with a M203 grenade launcher attached.

Not only is he stupid, he believes all the other dumpers are just as stupid to believe it.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: SVPete on February 24, 2018, 06:47:52 AM
:loser:

In reality the only way  this happened is if he was using an M16 with a M203 grenade launcher attached.

Not only is he stupid, he believes all the other dumpers are just as stupid to believe it.

Notice this:

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joem777 (22 posts)

I suspect that "joem777" was mining DU-folks' credulity. And struck gold.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: FunkyZero on February 24, 2018, 07:14:35 AM
Annnd, it's gone.   :rofl:

I was kindof expecting that to happen...  it WAS a bit obvious
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: 67 Rover on February 24, 2018, 07:43:36 AM
280 lbs of pig- larger than most men (non-DUmpmonkiez that is) VIPERIZED by a .223 softpoint round from an AR-15 at 90 meters.

the 30-30 round, which is .30 cal compared to the .223 cal, a larger round, doesn't VAPORIZE pigs...



 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

OMG.... they are just ****ing idiots....


They actually believed it.  Completely uninformed and ignorant. These are the people who want to take your guns. :censored:
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: catsmtrods on February 24, 2018, 07:57:34 AM
What's I find really funny is in one breath they claim the AR to be as powerful as this. Then when you remind them what the 2nd amendment is about you get this, "so your going to fight government tanks with your little pea shooter" !
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: hillneck on February 24, 2018, 07:58:34 AM
There's soooo much stupidity in that post, it doesn't even rate a response, but I can't help myself.  To the lurking DUmmies just do a search on your beloved interweb on the ballistics of the different rounds.  It's just not possible to do what this idiot has stated.  There's a reason most state game commission's have caliber restrictions for hunting big game and normally the .223 or 5.56 do NOT make the grade.   :banghead:
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: Delmar on February 24, 2018, 08:36:35 AM
What's I find really funny is in one breath they claim the AR to be as powerful as this. Then when you remind them what the 2nd amendment is about you get this, "so your going to fight government tanks with your little pea shooter" !

That's a recurring maneuver with leftists.  Back when AIDS was the big cause with them, they would go on and on about how Ronald Reagan had never uttered the word AIDS and about how we were all going to be dead of AIDS in 10 or 20 or whatever number of years if Reagan wouldn't institute some sort of Manhattan Project to fight AIDS.  But if anyone said that AIDS was dangerous and that AIDS patients should be quarantined so that everybody wouldn't be dying of AIDS in 10 years, the leftist AIDS activists said that it is darn near impossible to get AIDS, that someone would practically need to have AIDS infected blood poured into their mouths before they caught it.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: Old n Grumpy on February 24, 2018, 10:40:31 AM
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What's I find really funny is in one breath they claim the AR to be as powerful as this. Then when you remind them what the 2nd amendment is about you get this, "so your going to fight government tanks with your little pea shooter" !

Hell no, you do like the Hungarians did in the 50's. You use molotov cocktails to light them up then gun them down when they climb out.  :loser:
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: Skul on February 24, 2018, 12:12:58 PM
Here it is.
My handheld peeeg disrupter.  :lmao:

(http://i66.tinypic.com/30waza0.jpg)
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: BattleHymn on February 24, 2018, 12:17:21 PM
Reading the OP in Jim Nabor voice makes it perfect.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: YupItsMe on February 24, 2018, 01:10:15 PM
The newer AR-15's turn hogs into BLT's instantly.  There's an app.  You just have to bring the bread, lettuce and tomatoes.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: hillneck on February 24, 2018, 02:28:41 PM
The newer AR-15's turn hogs into BLT's instantly.  There's an app.  You just have to bring the bread, lettuce and tomatoes.

Damn, I must be shopping at the wrong gun store.  The 4 AR's I have won't vaporize a coyote, must less a full grown hog.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: Karin on February 24, 2018, 02:32:45 PM
 :lmao:  It was a little too obvious, the yoga and tofu were a step too far.  Funny how some fell for it. 
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: hillneck on February 24, 2018, 04:08:18 PM
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fierywoman (1,431 posts)
2.  Maybe you could share your story with the NRA crowd?

Here's one..  She should come on over here for that discussion.     :fuelfire:
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: zeitgeist on February 24, 2018, 04:40:54 PM
Shooter was obviously using the spent uranium round.  Lights 'um up like a radar range.   :lmao: 

When I was younger, long  before the turn of the century, we were allowed to 'drive' deer.  In those days my cousins and I would be the barkers going through the woods and uncles and older cousins would be set up. Several uncles shot semi 30-06 's.  One day we drove a deer toward the sets and you hear " tat tat tat, then tat tat tat, then tat tat tat", then a single bang (a bolt action .410 was in use at the end of the set line.)  The semi's pretty much made hamburg of the deer but the single .410 stopped it dead. And that's the way it was.   :fuelfire:
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: Movie buff- The Sequel on February 24, 2018, 05:05:25 PM
:lmao:  It was a little too obvious, the yoga and tofu were a step too far.  Funny how some fell for it.

Yep, the whole "Conversion" from avid hunter to wimpy hippy was just ridiculous. I'm surprised he didn't add something about listening to more John Lennon, Bob Dylan, and Phish ever since then.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: ADsOutburst on February 24, 2018, 06:56:11 PM
LOL, people have access to YouTube (if they don't already possess enough knowledge to know that this DU poster was full of crap). Not only will an AR-15 not vaporize a hog, but some hogs will require more than one shot to put down.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: BamaMoose on February 25, 2018, 01:08:37 AM
I can't decide what's funnier. The OP (which is brilliant, Hi-5 to whoever put that together), the DUmmies that lapped it up or the fact that it was alerted and was allowed to stand because it was so believable.  The only reason the post is gone is because Skinner, or one of his minions, banned the poster.  So one of the Admins took a look at the thread and considered how stupid it made them all look and killed it.  How sad is it when Skinner, EarlG and Elad are considered the adults in the room.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: Fourwinds on February 25, 2018, 04:13:40 AM
This guy must be taking notes from that one drama queen who wrote an article saying how firing an AR gave him PTSD and hurt his shoulder.

A couple of days ago I was watching this show called Bizarre Foods. The host was in Texas and was shooting hogs with an AR from the back of a pickup truck. No vaporizing there.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: SVPete on February 25, 2018, 10:13:27 AM
Damn, I must be shopping at the wrong gun store.  The 4 AR's I have won't vaporize a coyote, must less a full grown hog.

Yup! You should have gotten the Star Wars Special Edition Greedo-rizer.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: Airwolf on February 25, 2018, 10:48:21 PM
All those years spent in the military and each time I was on the range they never did anything like vaporize those plastic targets we shot at .
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: 67 Rover on February 26, 2018, 06:57:38 AM
All those years spent in the military and each time I was on the range they never did anything like vaporize those plastic targets we shot at .

Yea but those were just training rounds.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: BadCat on February 26, 2018, 07:16:56 AM
The AR certainly would not be my choice for hunting feral hogs.  Great play on the idiots though.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: fatboy on February 26, 2018, 08:32:43 AM
I have been thinking about getting a PCC (pistol caliber carbine). This type of rifle is becoming popular in leaps and bounds.

Over the past few months I have been looking at them and speaking to others that have them. This in an attempt to decide which PCC is the right fit for me. What I have decided on is a 9mm PCC that uses Glock magazines. Also, over the last year I've putting together a collection of general gunsmithing tools and a number of AR15 specific tools. The only tool I don't have is a barrel nut wrench and headspace gages.

So over the last several months or so I have been thinking of building my own based on the modular AR design. This is called in some circles an AR-9. I want to buy some of the major components from a company called Palmetto State Armory, they sell a lot of AR tackle and have a large inventory.

Anyway to the point, I went to visit the Palmetto website last night and noticed that compared to a few weeks ago when just about everything was in stock, now just about everything is out of stock. So I guess I will wait, I hope that there isn't going to be a big run on all things firearms like after Sandy Hook because it took years for things to get back to normal. Over the weekend, I did however purchase (from other sources) enough rimfire 22 ammo to last the 2018 season and 5K federal small pistol primers.

Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: SVPete on February 26, 2018, 11:16:08 AM
I've heard gun & ammo sales are up in FL. Whether out of concern about more laws attacking legal gun owners or a realization of the limitations on what LEOs can and will do, I can't guess. "Both" would not surprise me.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 26, 2018, 11:32:41 AM
I realize that upstate NY is a far distance from FL, but I went and put my name on a CC revolver over the weekend--a Ruger LCR in .357 Magnum.  I asked about a S&W M&P 340, and it priced out at $950-plus.  So, I figured that I'd try the LCR with the shrouded hammer.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: BadCat on February 26, 2018, 11:38:16 AM
I have been thinking about getting a PCC (pistol caliber carbine). This type of rifle is becoming popular in leaps and bounds.

Over the past few months I have been looking at them and speaking to others that have them. This in an attempt to decide which PCC is the right fit for me. What I have decided on is a 9mm PCC that uses Glock magazines. Also, over the last year I've putting together a collection of general gunsmithing tools and a number of AR15 specific tools. The only tool I don't have is a barrel nut wrench and headspace gages.

So over the last several months or so I have been thinking of building my own based on the modular AR design. This is called in some circles an AR-9. I want to buy some of the major components from a company called Palmetto State Armory, they sell a lot of AR tackle and have a large inventory.

Anyway to the point, I went to visit the Palmetto website last night and noticed that compared to a few weeks ago when just about everything was in stock, now just about everything is out of stock. So I guess I will wait, I hope that there isn't going to be a big run on all things firearms like after Sandy Hook because it took years for things to get back to normal. Over the weekend, I did however purchase (from other sources) enough rimfire 22 ammo to last the 2018 season and 5K federal small pistol primers.

I have one of the old Ruger carbines in .44 Mag, great little rifle.  Don't like their new ones (too much plastic and I think they're only doing 9mm now).

Have you considered a Henry lever action?  Beautiful, made in the USofA, and great cartridges.  My wife has one in .357.

https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/big-boy/

I know they're a bit pricey, but they are FANTASTIC rifles.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 26, 2018, 12:04:39 PM
I have one of the old Ruger carbines in .44 Mag, great little rifle.  Don't like their new ones (too much plastic and I think they're only doing 9mm now).

Have you considered a Henry lever action?  Beautiful, made in the USofA, and great cartridges.  My wife has one in .357.

https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/big-boy/

I know they're a bit pricey, but they are FANTASTIC rifles.

My LGS has a used Winchester 94 (AE, I believe) in .357 Magnum with a Trapper-length barrel.  A tad north of $850.  I was close . . . :whistling:

As for the old Ruger Deerfield .44 Magnum carbines, my cousin bought one that someone at the deer camp I belong to had.  The owner died of lung cancer a few years ago, and his wife was selling his long guns.  My cousin sighted it in with one .44 Magnum load, then used another load to hunt with.  He had a buck come down to his ground blind while he had the Ruger . . . and he missed it. :banghead:  He's going to make damned sure his rifles hit where he wants, with the right loads, as he missed two different bucks with two different rifles this past deer season. :banghead:
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: SVPete on February 26, 2018, 12:19:10 PM
My LGS has a used Winchester 94 (AE, I believe) in .357 Magnum with a Trapper-length barrel.  A tad north of $850.  I was close . . . :whistling:

As for the old Ruger Deerfield .44 Magnum carbines, my cousin bought one that someone at the deer camp I belong to had.  The owner died of lung cancer a few years ago, and his wife was selling his long guns.  My cousin sighted it in with one .44 Magnum load, then used another load to hunt with.  He had a buck come down to his ground blind while he had the Ruger . . . and he missed it. :banghead:  He's going to make damned sure his rifles hit where he wants, with the right loads, as he missed two different bucks with two different rifles this past deer season. :banghead:

Just make sure your cousin doesn't use a .223 and turn the next buck into a cloud of pink vapor! :-)
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: Wineslob on February 26, 2018, 12:59:35 PM
Good grief.... :thatsright:
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: 67 Rover on February 26, 2018, 01:06:48 PM
Just make sure your cousin doesn't use a .223 and turn the next buck into a cloud of pink vapor! :-)

Google the A-10 Thunderbolt (warthog) and you will see they built an air frame around the venerable .223 gun and variants that can shoot the super duper 5.56 round when you absolutely have to turn it up to 11! 
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: FunkyZero on February 26, 2018, 09:36:49 PM
I have been thinking about getting a PCC (pistol caliber carbine). This type of rifle is becoming popular in leaps and bounds.


I got a Baretta PX4 carbine a few years back, it was an opportunity buy that I couldn't pass up.
For the life of me I can't figure out why I need such a thing, but I have to admit, it's an outright blast to shoot. The kids love the thing too. Only prob is the small magazines as they are interchangeable with the PX4 pistols

Example, mine doesnt have optics on it tho
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/mgm-content/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2012/09/22/574632_01_great_deal_beretta_cx4_storm_9_640.jpg)
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: FunkyZero on February 26, 2018, 09:39:05 PM
I realize that upstate NY is a far distance from FL, but I went and put my name on a CC revolver over the weekend--a Ruger LCR in .357 Magnum.  I asked about a S&W M&P 340, and it priced out at $950-plus.  So, I figured that I'd try the LCR with the shrouded hammer.

I've got the LCR in .357 also. This thing is the perfect ankle gun. I liked it so much I bought the wife one in .38spl
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: catsmtrods on February 27, 2018, 05:06:23 AM
I have one of the old Ruger carbines in .44 Mag, great little rifle. 



I have that old Ruger! It's my go to pig gun. It knocks em down! No vaporization though?
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: catsmtrods on February 27, 2018, 05:10:28 AM
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/catsmtrods/hunting/bobsboar1.jpg)
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: SVPete on February 27, 2018, 07:37:17 AM
Google the A-10 Thunderbolt (warthog) and you will see they built an air frame around the venerable .223 gun and variants that can shoot the super duper 5.56 round when you absolutely have to turn it up to 11!

It's the the depleted Unobtanium that makes it so destructive and deadly!

BTW, I tested and aligned a couple hundred A-10 Projection Units (HUDs) back in '79-'80, when the A-10s were still in production.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: 67 Rover on February 27, 2018, 07:58:15 AM
It's the the depleted Unobtanium that makes it so destructive and deadly!

BTW, I tested and aligned a couple hundred A-10 Projection Units (HUDs) back in '79-'80, when the A-10s were still in production.

So you were the one responsible for the accuracy of those evil AmeriKKKan weapons of war who shot up schools, weddings, baby milk factory's and hospitals of a peace loving people who's only crime was to have oil as a natural resource. You bastard!  :cheersmate:
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 27, 2018, 07:59:03 AM
I have one of the old Ruger carbines in .44 Mag, great little rifle.  Don't like their new ones (too much plastic and I think they're only doing 9mm now).

The 'Deerfield' .44s are a hard to find, did see one at a gun show this weekend, but definitely pricey.  As far as .45 goes, rumor has it that Ruger completed all the technical work and engineering for their carbine, a 'PC45' which I do remember seeing in prototype-announcement form many years ago in American Rifleman, but then just never made any of them for some reason.  Options are pretty limited if you want a .45, I don't think Marlin makes the Camp 45 anymore but there are some used ones around (Pricey though), or there is the MEC 1911 upper.  Don't know if the HiPoint is available in .45 or not, but the MEC and HiPoint are not the most visually appealing guns in the world, although they are a dream for a project-freak like me.  In 9mm, on the other hand, there are a ton of options.

I do have a Rossi .357 lever action and a couple of revolvers that share the round.  I've seen M1 carbine conversions for .357 and have a PMC gun and the parts to do the job (Including some Coonan mags), but it isn't going to happen for at least a couple of years for me.

Quite a fan of the 'Pistol and carbine combination' myself.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 27, 2018, 09:38:56 AM
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/catsmtrods/hunting/bobsboar1.jpg)

Looks like a happy shooter!  One other guy in my deer camp has one of the newer Ruger .44 Magnums.  He's our oldest member, at about 80 years old.  Still gets around pretty good.

Where do you go hog hunting, cats?
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: catsmtrods on February 28, 2018, 03:23:39 AM
Looks like a happy shooter!  One other guy in my deer camp has one of the newer Ruger .44 Magnums.  He's our oldest member, at about 80 years old.  Still gets around pretty good.

Where do you go hog hunting, cats?

I used to go to Wild Hill in Vermont until the liberal loons run him out. Tioga in Penn is OK but kinda canned. Getting to expensive.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: Skul on February 28, 2018, 10:17:09 AM
Here it is.
Proof positive.

(http://i67.tinypic.com/24ys7ds.jpg)
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: 67 Rover on February 28, 2018, 10:23:05 AM
Here it is.
Proof positive.

(http://i67.tinypic.com/24ys7ds.jpg)

Wondering about reloads can you tell me if that is Boxer or Berdan primed???  :cheersmate:
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 28, 2018, 01:46:27 PM
Here it is.
Proof positive.

(http://i67.tinypic.com/24ys7ds.jpg)

Is this made by the ACME Ammunition Company?  There's some coyote that wants to know . . .

I found this little item about the use of an AR-15-style rifle, just now.

Quote
Man Armed with AR-15 Stops Attack by Neighbor in Oswego, Ill.

I'm providing the link, as the story's in the video at the link.

https://news.grabien.com/story-man-armed-ar-15-stops-attack-neighbor-oswego-ill?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=idealmedia&utm_campaign=grabien.com&utm_term=68738&utm_content=2196706

Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: Skul on February 28, 2018, 08:17:46 PM
Wondering about reloads can you tell me if that is Boxer or Berdan primed???  :cheersmate:
Neither, 67. It's electric.  Acme makes all components.

Is this made by the ACME Ammunition Company?  There's some coyote that wants to know . . .

I found this little item about the use of an AR-15-style rifle, just now.

I'm providing the link, as the story's in the video at the link.

https://news.grabien.com/story-man-armed-ar-15-stops-attack-neighbor-oswego-ill?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=idealmedia&utm_campaign=grabien.com&utm_term=68738&utm_content=2196706
       

Acme it is.  :yahoo:
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: SVPete on February 28, 2018, 08:30:02 PM
Neither, 67. It's electric.  Acme makes all components.
       

Acme it is.  :yahoo:

https://www.hubbell.com/acmeelectric/en/
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: BamaMoose on February 28, 2018, 10:32:14 PM
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/catsmtrods/hunting/bobsboar1.jpg)

I want to know what killed that hog.  Did it keel over dead from fright when you vaporized one of its buddies?  Was it hit by bone fragments from another hog that didn't vaporize completely?  Or was simply waving your death stick at it enough to give it a heart attack?  Just wondering if I need to start considering the carom effect of partially vaporized deer the next time I go hunting.  Hate to exceed my tag limit due to improper vaporization.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 28, 2018, 10:34:29 PM
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/catsmtrods/hunting/bobsboar1.jpg)

That hog does not look vaporized. If that hog was vaporized, than bullets should vaporize rabbits or ermines.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: catsmtrods on March 01, 2018, 04:19:38 AM
That hogs brain was vaporized.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 01, 2018, 05:05:37 AM
That hogs brain was vaporized.

Anybody's would be, partially, if it was hit with a 240-grain 'headache pill.' :whistling:
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: 67 Rover on March 01, 2018, 06:27:49 AM
Anybody's would be, partially, if it was hit with a 240-grain 'headache pill.' :whistling:

Well that settles it we need less lethal bullets. Save the children.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: Movie buff- The Sequel on October 26, 2020, 04:08:18 AM
Bringing this topic back up because I was reminded of it recently.
While I always knew this DUmmy's story was a load of crap, two weeks ago I got extra confirmation of what a lie it was.
My parents and brother, over the last few months, have gotten more interested in gun ownership, largely as a way of protecting themselves with all the social unrest growing. My brother bought an AR- 15, and my parents each got a pistol.
Two weeks ago, we all went out to the shooting range. While I don't own a firearm myself (Never felt the need to, though I have no problem with others legally and responsibly doing so), I figured at least learning to shoot could be a useful skill in an emergency, similar to learning how to change a car tire.
We were of course using plain paper bullseye- type targets for our shooting. When we finished, the paper target my brother had been shooting at with his AR- 15 had a lot of holes from where his bullets had hit it (He was a pretty good shot), but was otherwise whole and in one piece.
If the DUmmy's BS story were true and an AR- 15 could "Vaporize" a wild hog, surely my brother's flimsy little paper target would have been completely obliterated!
In short, DUmmies lie, all the time.
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: SVPete on October 26, 2020, 08:28:36 AM
I think one of The Cave's worthies got himself a Hog Vaporizer. :fuelfire:
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: jukin on November 01, 2020, 05:23:38 PM
Just remember that people who think they are really smart are the easiest to fool.  DUchebags think they are really smart.

This from the long ago but I seam to remember that a British guy with a 303 Enfield held two records. One was for shooting like 35 rounds in a minute. Tough to do with a bolt action rifle and reloading it. Two was that he put a hole in a rail tie with his Enfield. Both are pretty tall tales. But the Brits loved their Enfields.

Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: Old n Grumpy on November 02, 2020, 06:25:26 AM
Just remember that people who think they are really smart are the easiest to fool.  DUchebags think they are really smart.

This from the long ago but I seam to remember that a British guy with a 303 Enfield held two records. One was for shooting like 35 rounds in a minute. Tough to do with a bolt action rifle and reloading it. Two was that he put a hole in a rail tie with his Enfield. Both are pretty tall tales. But the Brits loved their Enfields.

Firing 35 rounds in a minute seems possible, If you fired 35 rounds in 30 seconds, that would give you 5 seconds to reload 6 times as the gun holds 5 rounds.
If you had the stripper clips laid out next to you it should be possible

As for punching a hole in a tie I am not so sure about that as the .303 isn't a really block buster say like the 30-06
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 02, 2020, 08:12:07 AM
Firing 35 rounds in a minute seems possible, If you fired 35 rounds in 30 seconds, that would give you 5 seconds to reload 6 times as the gun holds 5 rounds.
If you had the stripper clips laid out next to you it should be possible

As for punching a hole in a tie I am not so sure about that as the .303 isn't a really block buster say like the 30-06

The 'Smelly' has a 10-round detachable mag, though normally reloaded from two five-round strippers at a time (I've tried to speed-swap an Enfield mag, let's just say it doesn't lend itself to the process), it'd be 2-1/2 reloads using the strippers.  I think loading two strippers at a time would still be faster than two separate five-round stripper reloads like in a Mauser-system rifle.  The .303 ballistics are pretty similar to the .30-06, when loaded with the same weight of bullet, but the most common WW2 and after loads were the Brit Mk VII for the .303 and the M2 Ball for the '06, in those loadings basically the Mk VII shoots a 20+ gr. heavier bullet but at about 300 fps slower, so it's kind of situational about whether weight or velocity is more important as far as target effect goes (There were other models in use at different times, with higher velocities, heavier bullets, or both for both rounds, but mostly those were used up or prohibited for rifle use by the time WW2 ended).
Title: Re: The case of the AR-15 and the vaporized hog
Post by: YupItsMe on November 02, 2020, 09:44:20 AM
Funny thing is I have received two videos of AR-15's in the last year or so. Both my sons own one.  One is my little bitty ex-wife.  ( I wish I didn't have to say ex, but we separated amicably.)  Anyways, if she's wearing wet clothes she weighs in at about 110 lbs.  They were at a shooting range and my son was setting her all up to fire it.  He told her to hold it tight to her shoulder, he backs off and she fires.  All she said was "Woah".  The funniest part is my son immediately say "Finger off the trigger"   The second video was of my daughter in law, (wife of this same son) she is shooting his AR-15 at 4" swinging metal plates.  In the video you can hear the "Ting, ting ting"  of each shot striking home.  After seeing that I just told my son, "Don't piss her off or stay out of range if you do.  :)