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Offline thundley4

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No secret FEMA Camps. They have secret ICE camps
« on: December 26, 2009, 10:35:57 PM »
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shraby   (1000+ posts)             Sat Dec-26-09 03:43 PM
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I suspect the outrage-o'meter is going to go off the charts with
   

this one. The story is on DailyKos and should be everyplace.
<http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/12/26/819301/-Na... >

Nation reporter unmasks extraordinary rendition-like subfields run by ICE

Nation reporter unmasks extraordinary rendition-like subfields run by Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Lets Breakthrough's diary
A couple months ago, Jacqueline Stevens, a reporter for the Nation, went on a road trip with Mark Lyttle, a U.S. citizen, born in North Carolina, who had been kidnapped by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), stripped of his rightful identity documents, rendered stateless, and deported to Mexico, to re-locate the government offices that had temporarily held him.

Using google maps, they punched in 140 Centrewest Court, an address that appeared on a number of the documents issued to Lyttle by ICE in Cary, North Carolina. But when they arrived, Stevens was surprised that the government site was an unmarked building, no sign, no flag, with 15 equally unmarked vans next to an Oxford University Press production plant and a few gated communities.

Wondering how many other clandestine locations existed like this across the country, upon returning to Berkeley, Stevens picked up the phone and began a rigorous investigation of "America's Secret ICE Castles," the findings of which will appear in the January 4th edition of the Nation. First off, she read through, a recent report by Dora Shriro,"Immigration Detention Overview and Recommendations," and discovered that there were 186 "subfields" which were used to primarily hold people for up to 12-16 hours for 84% of all book-ins. But because these secret sites are below the legal radar, it's hard to say how long people are actually held and under what conditions.

When Stevens called ICE to request a list of the 186 subfields, she was initially told by Temple Black, an ICE public affairs officer, that these locations were "not releasable" and that the list was "law enforcement sensitive." However, Mr. Black had a family emergency, and put Stevens in touch with another ICE official, who released a partial list, which she then shared with immigrant rights advocates in major human and civil rights organizations, whose reactions ranged from astonishment to total outrage.
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shraby   (1000+ posts)             Sat Dec-26-09 03:45 PM
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1. Who in the hell would unrecommend this post? It's an
   
important one and needs discussion.

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ixion   (1000+ posts)             Sat Dec-26-09 03:48 PM
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2. rec'd
   
to try and offset the GOP-DLC crowd that seems to have taken an interest in DU.

Hey DUmmie, a troll would rec an anti-0Bama thread, just like you did.  The Kool-Aid drinkers are unreccing it.

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timeforpeace (1000+ posts)           Sat Dec-26-09 03:52 PM
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4. Never thought this would occur during the Obama administration.

He learned from Marxist professors and Chicago mobsters politicians.

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Hekate   (1000+ posts)             Sat Dec-26-09 06:15 PM
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20. Shadow government. Plus, things set in motion by Bush1 and Cheney-Bush2...
   
... to the applause of the Repubs and the propagandized masses are still rolling along, as I predicted they would.

The problem with all that crap the Repubs put in place is that it applies just as much to Democratic presidents as it does to Republican ones. You want your Repub POTUS to have all this power? Well, his successor will, too, and it might be Hillary.
blah, blah, blah.

But the former President loved his country, the current one, not so much.  OTOH, wasn't dear Leader going to change all this?

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Individualist   (1000+ posts)             Sat Dec-26-09 03:57 PM
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8. More chains we can believe in

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cliffordu   (1000+ posts)             Sat Dec-26-09 09:10 PM
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43. Saw that phrase on a backwater rw reactionary site.

Search DU, you'll find it there several times.

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gratuitous   (1000+ posts)           Sat Dec-26-09 06:09 PM
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18. Our own American Gulag Archipelago
   
Isn't that nice? Thanks, Mr. Bush. By the way, Mr. Obama, I realize you have a veritable mare's nest of misgovernance to untangle, but secret prisons? Run by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement people? Uhhhhh . . . you know, I really don't know what to say. I couldn't say it forcefully enough to truly convey my disgust, revulsion, shame, and utter contempt for the men and women who put this program together and who cash a government paycheck to keep it up and running.

Okay, several of the DUmmies keep blaming  President Bush  for these ICE Camps, but why is there no evidence from before January 2009?

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Re: No secret FEMA Camps. They have secret ICE camps
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2009, 10:52:49 PM »
ICE barely likes to summon the stones to bust genuine illegals, why the hell would they go through all that trouble and liability to bust a US citizen and strip him of his documents and ship him and his very gringo-sounding name to Mexico where he stood better than fair odds of returning from?

Although as soon as a read "he returned to Berkley" I was thinking, " :jerkit: ."
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Re: No secret FEMA Camps. They have secret ICE camps
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2009, 12:06:26 AM »
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with 15 equally unmarked vans

Well now we know what happened to Jeb's ICE trucks.

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Re: No secret FEMA Camps. They have secret ICE camps
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2009, 07:16:38 AM »
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4. Never thought this would occur during the Obama administration.

Now, I don't believe these places exist. Just for fun, let's indulge the DUmmies.
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Re: No secret FEMA Camps. They have secret ICE camps
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2009, 08:53:03 AM »
Another top secret camp.

So top secret that it even listed in the phone book and it's a whopping 80x100 foot building.  That's got to hold a ton of prisoners.

Super duper top secret spy satellite picture
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Re: No secret FEMA Camps. They have secret ICE camps
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2009, 09:15:33 AM »
Another top secret camp.

So top secret that it even listed in the phone book and it's a whopping 80x100 foot building.  That's got to hold a ton of prisoners.

Super duper top secret spy satellite picture
Right next to the high security John Deere tractor factory and the Ultra Top Secret Underground Oxford University Press.
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Re: No secret FEMA Camps. They have secret ICE camps
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2009, 03:12:32 PM »
Another top secret camp.

So top secret that it even listed in the phone book and it's a whopping 80x100 foot building.  That's got to hold a ton of prisoners.

Super duper top secret spy satellite picture

Hmmmmmmmmm.....looks like the "Bummer" has a hell of a grave yard right next door! We should watch for the disappearance of Vice Pres Cheney in the near future!
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Re: No secret FEMA Camps. They have secret ICE camps
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2009, 03:31:33 PM »
Hmmmmmmmmm.....looks like the "Bummer" has a hell of a grave yard right next door! We should watch for the disappearance of Vice Pres Cheney in the near future!

Kind of a lot of parking for such a small building!

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Re: No secret FEMA Camps. They have secret ICE camps
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2009, 06:11:29 PM »
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4. Never thought this would occur during the Obama administration.

I predict this phrase will be repeated early and often by the DUmmies over the next three years.
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Re: No secret FEMA Camps. They have secret ICE camps
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2009, 06:38:53 PM »
I predict this phrase will be repeated early and often by the DUmmies over the next three years.

It's been used quite frequently at the DUmp.

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Re: No secret FEMA Camps. They have secret ICE camps
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2009, 09:51:19 AM »
It's been used quite frequently at the DUmp.

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Re: No secret FEMA Camps. They have secret ICE camps
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2009, 09:58:13 AM »
I think the Obamacorps trains elsewhere:


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Re: No secret FEMA Camps. They have secret ICE camps
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2009, 10:03:21 AM »
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Hekate   (1000+ posts)             Sat Dec-26-09 06:15 PM
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20. Shadow government. Plus, things set in motion by Bush1 and Cheney-Bush2...

Hey, wasn't there some other guy in between those two...?

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Re: No secret FEMA Camps. They have secret ICE camps
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2009, 10:45:13 AM »
Hey, wasn't there some other guy in between those two...?

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Now, now, we all know Clintoon doesn't count. You know, the blue dress and all, gives him a bye.
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