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The Bar => Sports => Topic started by: RightCoast on January 18, 2008, 09:57:34 PM
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Thoughts?
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As much shit as I take for NOT being a Sox/Pats fan in New England, I have to respect the Pats for what they've accomplished.
The Chargers are too banged up, can't play in the cold, and have been playing over their heads way too long.
Come Sunday, we're gonna know it's a Packers/Patriots matchup in the desert.
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What? We have some voting but no commens?
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Thoughts?
You left out "Tom Brady is an android."
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Thoughts?
Yeah, I've got one. How can you determine your the best team ever after just 1 game? The other 3 major sports play best of 7. A series of games will establish who really is better. Not a single game that can be lost due to a fluke like a bad call or the like.
NFL is teh suck. NHL for teh win.
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What the hell are you talking about?
Will NE become the greatest NFL team in history?
Clearly mister exacto pants I am referring the NFL and just as clearly to history meaning past teams that are in the NFL (notice how I cleverly placed NFL and history in the question?)
I will gladly rephrase the question to state: Will NE become the greatest NFL team in history? Does that makes it clearer for you?
The gist of the question based on the available respones is: do you think that NE will win, or do you think that NE will lose. Thanks for playing and have a nice night.
BTW I think NE will win by at least 9, as long as the reports of Brady wearing a walking boot are exaggerated.
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But you also asked another question. Thats the one I responded to.
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Thoughts?
Yeah, I've got one. How can you determine your the best team ever after just 1 game? The other 3 major sports play best of 7. A series of games will establish who really is better. Not a single game that can be lost due to a fluke like a bad call or the like.
NFL is teh suck. NHL for teh win.
If you like boring games that end in ties played by wealthy white guys. Even the fights are bogus.
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Thoughts?
Yeah, I've got one. How can you determine your the best team ever after just 1 game? The other 3 major sports play best of 7. A series of games will establish who really is better. Not a single game that can be lost due to a fluke like a bad call or the like.
NFL is teh suck. NHL for teh win.
If you like boring games that end in ties played by wealthy white guys. Even the fights are bogus.
You've obviously never been to a Hockey Game before have you? First off, ever try throwing a punch while standing on ice skates? I'd put money down just about any football player will land on his ass and not get a chance to throw a 2nd punch. Secondly, the game is a hell of a lot faster paced then any of the other major sports. Third, the athletes are the lowest paid of the 4 major sports. 4th, when was the last time you saw a guys face shattered from a foot ball flying 60 mph? Then get back up and keep playing?
The Athletes are of higher caliber. They have to be expert ice scaters. They need to have great hand to eye coordination. They need to have incredible attention to detail, cause keeping your eye on a 3 inch puck in a huge rink with 10 guys trying to smash you into oblivion just ain't easy. Play does not stop whenever you get knocked over. You get slammed into a wall by a 220lb guy, you need to get your ass back on your feet and keep skating.
Try actually watching the sport sometime. Pick up the nuances. Understand just how rough it is to play the game at that level, and how damned skilled you gotta be to do it.
Football is about being big, or being fast. Hockey is about having skill.
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But you also asked another question. Thats the one I responded to.
Which was directly tied to the poll question.
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But you also asked another question. Thats the one I responded to.
Which was directly tied to the poll question.
Ok, well the question still stands. How can you honestly expect to determine whether or not a team is the best because of 1 game? To much "luck" can influence that one game. A measurement of multiple games would be much better to determine who the best truly is.
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No team (in the NFL) has done what they *are going* to do in 35 years, and that team played fewer games overall. That's more than "just one game."
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I'm not a NE fan, haven't been a Bradey fan since he was at UM, but there's no doubt in my mind they are the best team in the NFL this season and maybe ever.
Now if NY beats them, that makes Jones point.
I hope they smoke NY with huge numbers. then not make the playoffs next year. :-)
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19-0 baby. Belichick then reloads defensive line in the draft, and then it's undefeated again next baby.
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Thoughts?
Yeah, I've got one. How can you determine your the best team ever after just 1 game? The other 3 major sports play best of 7. A series of games will establish who really is better. Not a single game that can be lost due to a fluke like a bad call or the like.
NFL is teh suck. NHL for teh win.
If you like boring games that end in ties played by wealthy white guys. Even the fights are bogus.
You've obviously never been to a Hockey Game before have you? First off, ever try throwing a punch while standing on ice skates? I'd put money down just about any football player will land on his ass and not get a chance to throw a 2nd punch. Secondly, the game is a hell of a lot faster paced then any of the other major sports. Third, the athletes are the lowest paid of the 4 major sports. 4th, when was the last time you saw a guys face shattered from a foot ball flying 60 mph? Then get back up and keep playing?
The Athletes are of higher caliber. They have to be expert ice scaters. They need to have great hand to eye coordination. They need to have incredible attention to detail, cause keeping your eye on a 3 inch puck in a huge rink with 10 guys trying to smash you into oblivion just ain't easy. Play does not stop whenever you get knocked over. You get slammed into a wall by a 220lb guy, you need to get your ass back on your feet and keep skating.
Try actually watching the sport sometime. Pick up the nuances. Understand just how rough it is to play the game at that level, and how damned skilled you gotta be to do it.
Football is about being big, or being fast. Hockey is about having skill.
Sounds like the usual defense of soccer with some adjustments. I've seen enough games to know it is boring after a few minutes.
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I'm not a NE fan, haven't been a Bradey fan since he was at UM, but there's no doubt in my mind they are the best team in the NFL this season and maybe ever.
Now if NY beats them, that makes Jones point.
I hope they smoke NY with huge numbers. then not make the playoffs next year. :-)
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But you also asked another question. Thats the one I responded to.
Which was directly tied to the poll question.
Ok, well the question still stands. How can you honestly expect to determine whether or not a team is the best because of 1 game? To much "luck" can influence that one game. A measurement of multiple games would be much better to determine who the best truly is.
So...now, is Jones question valid?
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Will NE become the greatest NFL team in history?
What is NEs place in football history now? Being undefeated through the season has to count for something...doesn't it? Can they still be considered one of the best teams in history?
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Will NE become the greatest NFL team in history?
What is NEs place in football history now? Being undefeated through the season has to count for something...doesn't it? Can they still be considered one of the best teams in history?
There's no doubt that the Pats will be considered the "dynasty of the decade", as was the Packers in the 60s, the Steelers in the 70's, 49ers in the 80's, and so on. So they'll have that. This season will be pretty much forgotten though a couple years down the road.
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Will NE become the greatest NFL team in history?
What is NEs place in football history now? Being undefeated through the season has to count for something...doesn't it? Can they still be considered one of the best teams in history?
There's no doubt that the Pats will be considered the "dynasty of the decade", as was the Packers in the 60s, the Steelers in the 70's, 49ers in the 80's, and so on. So they'll have that. This season will be pretty much forgotten though a couple years down the road.
Agreed. Too bad, good game.
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19-0 baby. Belichick then reloads defensive line in the draft, and then it's undefeated again next baby.
Ahem, what were you saying? Make that 18-1.
Just messing wit ya FL.
:-)
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19-0 baby. Belichick then reloads defensive line in the draft, and then it's undefeated again next baby.
Ahem, what were you saying? Make that 18-1.
Just messing wit ya FL.
:-)
Giants defense got to Brady, and Belichick didn't adjust. The Boston papers are pretty much going with Brady was seriously hurt the end of the season excuse, but they lost so I am not going to dwell on the reasons for it.
Red Sox season is upon us. Repeat...repeat....repeat.... :cheersmate:
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19-0 baby. Belichick then reloads defensive line in the draft, and then it's undefeated again next baby.
Ahem, what were you saying? Make that 18-1.
Just messing wit ya FL.
:-)
Giants defense got to Brady, and Belichick didn't adjust. The Boston papers are pretty much going with Brady was seriously hurt the end of the season excuse, but they lost so I am not going to dwell on the reasons for it.
Red Sox season is upon us. Repeat...repeat....repeat.... :cheersmate:
Agreed the Pats Offensive Line lost that game.