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Want to know the question to ask baggers when they suggest cutting social programs?
 
Very seriously ask them, "Well what do you plan to do with the people who can't afford to make it in this economy? The millions of people who don't have a pot to piss in. What are your plans for them?"

Typical lib.  Any solution that doesn't involve some type of gov't involvement is beyond their ability to understand.

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When I drive down the western part of Broad Street, I don't see too many people acting like they're wanting jobs. They're hanging out on the porch with 40's in brown bags. ...and that's at 9 f'n O'Clock IN THE MORNING.

So, yeah DUmmie, ****'em. Let'em starve. I'm tired of paying for their worthless asses.

I saw so much of that in Cleveland when we went for my son's graduation. His school is on the Case Western campus and the house he shared with 5 other guys was right on the edge of the bad side of town (I'm talking right on the edge, leaning to the bad side). 

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This issue is one that leaves me seething. I take care of my home, because I pay for it. Public housing that they don't pay for? Treated like shit.
Well, now you have to cut them a little slack on that one.
Whenever they own something, it gets treated like shit as well.

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Well, now you have to cut them a little slack on that one.
Whenever they own something, it gets treated like shit as well.

 :lmao: That is true.
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Well, now you have to cut them a little slack on that one.
Whenever they own something, it gets treated like shit as well.
That really is true.  Being a single mom that didn't qualify for welfare, we lived in the same neighborhoods as those that did.  Of course, their houses were nicer, cooler in summer & warmer in winter.  Their clothing was nicer.  Their toys were nicer.  They never rolled pennies to buy medicine for a sick kid.  And they laughed at me for the ways I saved money.  They would throw things out...and we'd go pick them up, fix them, and use them.  (Got all our furniture this way.  Fix it, clean it up, treat it for bugs, and use it for years.)  They would sell all their kids' clothes at garage sales every couple years, thought I was crazy for keeping them for the next kid.  Never mind that I saved a ton of money by buying their kids' clothes at garage sales and not having to re-buy them for the next kid. 

We watched time and again as they welfare folks had their big parties (and drank way too much.)  We watched them trash their government homes, their cars, their furniture, their kids.  We watched them waste every bit of wealth that did come their way buying better toys, better clothes, pretty used cars with lousy engines or broken transmissions, etc. etc.

Now, given any luck, I am actually on a path to building enough wealth that I may be able to retire someday...while they are still eating taxpayer money, smoking taxpayer money, wasting taxpayer money...and will leave their kids with nothing except a huge bill.
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You people aren't playing by the rules.

You're supposed to be hawing and blubbering.
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Through the years I've seen people on public assistance doing better than me, they have their nails done at a Salon, get their hair cut regularly, and they're loading up at the grocery store, me? I'm lugging my frigging plastic bin out and doing my own nails, hauling the scissor and razor out and cut my hair and my husbands hair, and I'm getting callouses from cutting coupons, all to save a $ here and there. How the hell many people out there are doing what I'm doing? and how the hell many are out there gaining the system?

I bought my mom a gift certificate to a nail salon for Mother's Day.  The nail salon had its own ATM machine with a nice visible sign saying "EBT card accepted"  :argh:

DUmmies, most people even on the "evil right" don't mind paying for real food for the poor, especially when it is for a short time, but we do mind that money going to non essentials.  They don't have the right to think that they are "too good" for staple foods like rice, beans, and chicken that is on sale. 

My opinion is that everybody receiving food stamps should be required to take a class in budgeting and nutrition. 

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I bought my mom a gift certificate to a nail salon for Mother's Day.  The nail salon had its own ATM machine with a nice visible sign saying "EBT card accepted" 
If they didn't take EBT cards, they'd never sell any of those 3" long, curved, glue-on nails.

I remember one of their stupid Diebold threads where a DUmp woman claimed she tried to vote for one candidate, and another one popped up when she touched the screen. Then she added, "I guess it could have been my nails." I doubt the repukes get many intentional votes from those jungle claws.

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I bought my mom a gift certificate to a nail salon for Mother's Day.  The nail salon had its own ATM machine with a nice visible sign saying "EBT card accepted"  :argh:

DUmmies, most people even on the "evil right" don't mind paying for real food for the poor, especially when it is for a short time, but we do mind that money going to non essentials.  They don't have the right to think that they are "too good" for staple foods like rice, beans, and chicken that is on sale. 

My opinion is that everybody receiving food stamps should be required to take a class in budgeting and nutrition. 

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DUmmies, most people even on the "evil right" don't mind paying for real food for the poor, especially when it is for a short time, but we do mind that money going to non essentials.

Through couponing I've been able to donate 6 bags of food and toiletries to the food bank, hoping to donate more this month to my Church's food bank. And for the lurkers, this is what conservatives do!
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Through couponing I've been able to donate 6 bags of food and toiletries to the food bank, hoping to donate more this month to my Church's food bank. And for the lurkers, this is what conservatives do!
Greenbriar wants to know if that food bank takes advance orders.

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Greenbriar wants to know if that food bank takes advance orders.

Well, she does have to eat between cruises.

I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Greenbriar wants to know if that food bank takes advance orders.

OMG, seriously? isn't she the 1 who goes on the Cruises?
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OMG, seriously? isn't she the 1 who goes on the Cruises?
Uh, yep, she's the one. Pam Dawson, star Wichita educator. Check out this discussion:
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w8liftinglady  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Tue Oct-14-08 10:39 PM
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5. one of my local churches belongs to Angel Food Ministries

 
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greenbriar  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-14-08 10:41 PM
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6. I have contemplated using it
   
have you?

what is the food like?


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greenbriar  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-14-08 10:55 PM
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10. so what did you get
   
I have made contact with a church 3 blocks away from my house but I haven't actually ordered anything yet

just don't know.

can you tell me about the variety and quality?

Note this was back in 2008, when Pam was still basking in the warm glow of the Bush Prosperity.
She was warming up for her championship run to the 2009 DUmmy of the Year Award.

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Want to know the question to ask baggers when they suggest cutting social programs?
 
Very seriously ask them, "Well what do you plan to do with the people who can't afford to make it in this economy? The millions of people who don't have a pot to piss in. What are your plans for them?"

Ask them, "Do you want to just plow them under and use them as fertilizer?"

"What is your plan for these people?"

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No plan. They can sink or swim as they desire. Neither outcome really concerns me a great deal. Obviously it's preferential for all involved if they swim.

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Uh, yep, she's the one. Pam Dawson, star Wichita educator. Check out this discussion

Angel Food Ministries is an awesome organization, I wouldn't dare think of using them though unless we needed to.
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Bitch sounds like getting freebies from the food pantry is like shopping at Whole Foods.  Did she ask if they had arugula? :whatever:
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What all of you others have said and more. Its way past time to stop giving them money or whatever for not return. You do work for it then piss off. the only people in this coutry that need help like the 50% in this country that sit on their asses do is the mentally handicapped. There is no reason why a healthy person cant at least find some job cleaning offices to earn their keep.
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I thought that the Clinton plan was supposed to stop generation after generation of welfare families.  There was supposed to be time limits. And yet I see the same families still receiving welfare month after month, not even TRYING to better themselves.

And then there is an acquaintance of mine who is receiving disability because he is depressed and overweight! Seriously?!?! I had major back surgery in April and do not qualify for disability, and furthermore I WANT to return to work, just waiting on the doctor's release.

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What all of you others have said and more. Its way past time to stop giving them money or whatever for not return. You do work for it then piss off. the only people in this coutry that need help like the 50% in this country that sit on their asses do is the mentally handicapped. There is no reason why a healthy person cant at least find some job cleaning offices to earn their keep.

Even Obama agrees:

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/07/09/president-obama-admits-welfare-encourages-dependency/

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President Obama Admits Welfare Encourages Dependency

July 9, 2011 at 8:00 am

During his Twitter Townhall on Wednesday, President Obama admitted that government welfare has created dependency. He noted:

I think we should acknowledge that some welfare programs in the past were not well designed and in some cases did encourage dependency.… As somebody who worked in low-income neighborhoods, I’ve seen it where people weren’t encouraged to work, weren’t encouraged to upgrade their skills, were just getting a check, and over time their motivation started to diminish. And I think even if you’re progressive you’ve got to acknowledge that some of these things have not been well designed.

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Come try that bullshit over here, asshole.  Stop hiding behind the fact that disagreement is banned there:
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Through the years I've seen people on public assistance doing better than me, they have their nails done at a Salon, get their hair cut regularly, and they're loading up at the grocery store, me? I'm lugging my frigging plastic bin out and doing my own nails, hauling the scissor and razor out and cut my hair and my husbands hair, and I'm getting callouses from cutting coupons, all to save a $ here and there. How the hell many people out there are doing what I'm doing? and how the hell many are out there gaining the system?

There's your problem.  You're going against your self interest.  You should just give up and be a leech on society like everyone else. :whatever:

Oh, and high 5 for being a hard-working, honest person.
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Uh, yep, she's the one. Pam Dawson, star Wichita educator. Check out this discussion:
 

Note this was back in 2008, when Pam was still basking in the warm glow of the Bush Prosperity.
She was warming up for her championship run to the 2009 DUmmy of the Year Award.

Angel food ministries is a low-cost program where people (not just the poor) can order things like meat, fruit, and veggies.  It's different from a traditional food bank.  You do actually have to order the packages...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_Food_Ministries

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Angel Food Ministries each month creates a variety of different sized boxes of food for about half of what it would cost to purchase at a grocery store.[1] The boxes can be ordered online or through the churches that the boxes are picked up at once a month. The food items in the box change from month to month with a wide variety of meat, vegetables, and fruits; each box can contain a pamphlet concerning word of Christ.[7] There are specialty boxes that can be ordered such as gluten free, specialty meats, after-school, fresh produce and prepackaged heat and serve meals. [9] Each box contains enough food to last a family of four for about a week and a senior citizen about a month. The signature boxes range from thirty one dollars to fifty one dollars as of March 2011. The boxes can also be purchased with food stamps with Angel Food Ministries working with the USDA.[10] There is no set amount on how many boxes that can be ordered, nor is it based on income.[1] There are no applications or qualifications needed to be able to purchase a box.[2]


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I thought that the Clinton plan was supposed to stop generation after generation of welfare families.  There was supposed to be time limits. And yet I see the same families still receiving welfare month after month, not even TRYING to better themselves.

And then there is an acquaintance of mine who is receiving disability because he is depressed and overweight! Seriously?!?! I had major back surgery in April and do not qualify for disability, and furthermore I WANT to return to work, just waiting on the doctor's release.
Yep, personally acquainted with 3 in that category.  All were heavy and had trouble doing the manual labor their lack of training left them, so all 3 ate their way onto disability.  Hit the "magic weight." and your a taxpayer burden forever.

On the other hand, I have a brother that gets headaches worse than the horrible migraines he's had all his life.  These are so much more severe that he has been known to just double over and drop when they hit.  During a scan to find the problem, the veins in his brain contracted so severely that it took 10x the expected time for the contrast to finally clear.  Aside from the pain, he was truly fearful they had blinded him for life.  They've spent thousands of dollars on specialists to try to find a cure...but no one can help him.  Yet for 4 years, he didn't qualify for disability.  I guess he should have just gotten fat...
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