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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: miskie on August 17, 2012, 07:28:04 PM
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I have no words, but I suspect Agent Mike does -- BTW primitives.. This post qualifies as inciting 'stochastic terrorism' according to your definition of the term.
Why was the guillotine invented?
Was it for the elitists that thought they were better than everyone else and did not have to follow the same rules or the same laws? Was it for those that indulged in greedy deception to enrich themselves at the expense of everyone else? Was it for those that lied to the people to gain power and wealth? Do you think we could use one of those contraptions nowadays? :)
Yes, he ended that with a smiley face.
All current responses, in case the thread 'disappears'
1. Expedience
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Sean & Rush could have an excuse for knowing nothing.
More of those 'stochastic terrorism' suggestions ?
2. It was invented to provide an efficient means of killing that also made for great public spectacle.
That kind of thing is regarded as barbaric by most modern, civilized people.
3. I could see how...
...heads rolling into baskets would be considered barbaric, and below the dignity of civilized folks, even for the despicable crime of elitism and greed.
kentuck, if elitism were a crime punishable by beheading, you would have been executed hundreds of times by now. Beheaded, head reattached, beheaded again. lather, rinse, repeat.
4. Invented by Dr. Guillotin
as a supposedly humane way to execute people, as opposed to hanging.
5. More efficient than hanging.
--imm
6. Actually, kind of a funny story
The guy who invented it actually had his head chopped off by one during the french revolution.
That's a laugh-out-loud riot, right there... :whatever:
7. A number of people who lived by the guillotine, also died by the guillotine
Just saying......
asswipe=kentuck.
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No matter what method used these cretins don`t realize they would be among the first to suffer its fate in the leftist utopia they dream of.
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I am reminded of the Aggie, The Okie, and the Arkie facing the guillotine.
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DUmmies don't like guns but they love guillotines. Simply weird.
Incidentally, I used to love this old movie called Two on a Guillotine. Haven't seen it since I was a kid, though.
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Imagine a row of guillotines with the holes where the head is placed painted to look like assholes and plates of Cheetos rigged to the releases like one of those old fashion rat traps. I wonder what would happen.
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Again and again, DUmmies fantasize about killing. This recurrent theme reveals a lot about DU and its membership.
and this just a day after the attempted mass murder at a Conservative Christian site in DC.
CC isn't the only group monitoring the rabble.
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They are the true heirs of The Terror.
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It was the best of times, it was the worst of times
it is a far far better place that I have ever been
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I always thought the guillotine was developed because up to that time they had a guy that would take a very large axe to someone's neck and sometimes it was quite messy and not kill the executionee outright. If I remember correctly, the guillotine was considered to be quite humane at the time.
Too lazy to look it up.
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I always thought the guillotine was developed because up to that time they had a guy that would take a very large axe to someone's neck and sometimes it was quite messy and not kill the executionee outright. If I remember correctly, the guillotine was considered to be quite humane at the time.
Too lazy to look it up.
Do you know that it took three strikes to totally decapitate Queen Mary of the Scots?? Apparently, the axeman was very inexperienced.
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Do you know that it took three strikes to totally decapitate Queen Mary of the Scots?? Apparently, the axeman was very inexperienced.
That's why Henry VIII, who loathed and detested his second wife Anne Boleyn, had an executioner especially imported from France to take off her head.
He loathed and detested her, but he didn't want a big mess to be made.
Decapitation by sword, one stroke.
As easy and quick as strawberries-and-cream, using the sword instead of the axe.
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Do you know that it took three strikes to totally decapitate Queen Mary of the Scots?? Apparently, the axeman was very inexperienced.
No I didn't... or maybe I did and forgot. I just seemed to remember something about messy executions back in history class.
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I remember the Addams Family had a little one in their kitchen in order to slice carrots.
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No I didn't... or maybe I did and forgot. I just seemed to remember something about messy executions back in history class.
What was especially messy was when the axeman mis-thrust, and cut above the neck (around the jaw or chin) or into the shoulders instead.
It wasn't ever pretty.
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That's why Henry VIII, who loathed and detested his second wife Anne Boleyn, had an executioner especially imported from France to take off her head.
He loathed and detested her, but he didn't want a big mess to be made.
Decapitation by sword, one stroke.
As easy and quick as strawberries-and-cream, using the sword instead of the axe.
Well depending on what book or movie you are aquainted with, seceretly loved her the most?? He wanted an heir so badly, and the irony was Elizabeth Tudor rued in her own right without a husband or a consort by her side...
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What was especially messy was when the axeman mis-thrust, and cut above the neck (around the jaw or chin) or into the shoulders instead.
It wasn't ever pretty.
I seem to recall reading in a book years ago... don't hold me to accuracy of this as it may have been fiction... that it was customary for the family of the condemned to give a payment to the executioner to make sure his axe was sharp and his aim was true. Like I said... it may have been fiction.
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Well depending on what book or movie you are aquainted with, seceretly loved her the most?? He wanted an heir so badly, and the irony was Elizabeth Tudor rued in her own right without a husband or a consort by her side...
True, but that was all after the fact.
In 1536, it didn't look good.
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Actually it was a misunderstanding, by beheading they meant castration of socialist ideologists, or that's just how I imagine it. Most of them are already eunuchs to begin with.
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I seem to recall reading in a book years ago... don't hold me to accuracy of this as it may have been fiction... that it was customary for the family of the condemned to give a payment to the executioner to make sure his axe was sharp and his aim was true. Like I said... it may have been fiction.
No, that wasn't fiction, but it was a little bit different than that.
The family of the condemned, if they cared and if they had the means, paid to have a professional axeman do the job, rather than a cheaper amateur axeman.
Being a decapitator wasn't a minimum-wage job.
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No, that wasn't fiction, but it was a little bit different than that.
The family of the condemned, if they cared and if they had the means, paid to have a professional axeman do the job, rather than a cheaper amateur axeman.
Being a decapitator wasn't a minimum-wage job.
and they always asked the condemned for forgiveness...
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No, that wasn't fiction, but it was a little bit different than that.
The family of the condemned, if they cared and if they had the means, paid to have a professional axeman do the job, rather than a cheaper amateur axeman.
Being a decapitator wasn't a minimum-wage job.
OK Frank. That makes sense. Thanks!! :cheersmate: :cheersmate:
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The DUmmies are something else, when a cop killer gets a lethal injection they cry their eyes out for days, yet they want to pull out the guillotine and behead people for the crime of being rich. :mental:
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I was under the impression the executioner operated under threat of the same fate if he bungled his job.
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The DUmmies are something else, when a cop killer gets a lethal injection they cry their eyes out for days, yet they want to pull out the guillotine and behead people for the crime of being rich. :mental:
It's not really that crazy when you think about it. Most of the time the executed (or condemned to be executed) person is wicked. The DUmmies see a reflection of themselves in that person.
In most cases the rich person has worked to acquire or retain his or her wealth. The notion of work is a loathsome and often times completely foreign concept to DUmmies so they have nothing in common with the rich person.
They sympathize and feel compassion toward the ones most like them.
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It's not really that crazy when you think about it. Most of the time the executed (or condemned to be executed) person is wicked. The DUmmies see a reflection of themselves in that person.
In most cases the rich person has worked to acquire or retain his or her wealth. The notion of work is a loathsome and often times completely foreign concept to DUmmies so they have nothing in common with the rich person.
They sympathize and feel compassion toward the ones most like them.
Damn, Chuck, that's awesome. H5.
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The guillotine is an evil capitalist invention. It put a skilled craftsman out of a job and replaced him with a lower paid unskilled person. This unskilled person then had the the capability of mass production with an increase in the quality of the end product and efficiency creating greater profits for the capitalist owners of the guillotine.
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No matter what method used these cretins don`t realize they would be among the first to suffer its fate in the leftist utopia they dream of.
Reminds me of the moonbat's worship of Che Guevara. They really have no clue what he was about. Carlos Santana is so proud of his hand embroidered "Che" shirt, but the fool has no idea that his beloved Che would have put him in front of a firing squad.
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...they want to pull out the guillotine and behead people for the crime of not being poor. :mental:
Yes, the distinction makes a difference.
DUmbasses revel in misery like chittering goblins scrambling through their own muck and filth.
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Kentuck is such an outright tool. Jackpine Radical is correct, and the invention had nothing to do with the intention of killing the French aristocracy. It was simply invented as a certain and painless (As far as anyone knows) tool of execution for criminals. The French Reign of Terror scum simply seized upon it after it was invented and used it wholesale for their own blood-soaked brand of 'Progressive' retail politics.
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The guillotine was invented as a tool of the State (at that time, the King) to punish criminals (all debates on the justice of pre-revolutionary France aside).
Later, it was taken over and used by the revolutionaries to dispose of their enemies.
As if the hippiecrats of 1968 had succeeded in their revolution, and began to employ electric chairs to destroy decent people.
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Yes, the distinction makes a difference.
DUmbasses revel in misery like chittering goblins scrambling through their own muck and filth.
Excellent (accurate) word picture
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It was the best of times, it was the worst of times
it is a far far better place that I have ever been
Nicely done!
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Ya know why the guillotine was invented, Ken****?
For you. To deal with you.
:evillaugh:
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I always thought the guillotine was developed because up to that time they had a guy that would take a very large axe to someone's neck and sometimes it was quite messy and not kill the executionee outright. If I remember correctly, the guillotine was considered to be quite humane at the time.
Too lazy to look it up.
I heard that it was customary to tip the executioner so that he would make the beheading cleanly and quickly.
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The DUmmies are something else, when a cop killer gets a lethal injection they cry their eyes out for days, yet they want to pull out the guillotine and behead people for the crime of being rich.
Remember, DUmp vermin view the entire world through a political filter.
An executed cop killer, without exception, means a lost democrat vote.
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Excellent (accurate) word picture
Agreed, and original quote copied and pasted...
"chittering goblins scrambling through their own muck and filth."
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Now, don't any of you forget, it's REALLY the conservatives who use hateful rhetoric specfically designed to openly encourage violence! THEY'RE the ones engaging in stochastic terrorism!
For all these ignorant liberal idiots who love romanticizing the French Revolution and pretending that it was just the king and queen and a bunch of despicable, pure- evil rich noblemen who got guillotined, and who wish such a thing would happen here today, here's a news flash: That's not what it was really like!
In real life, the French Revolution was a hideous explosion of lawlessness, barbarism, and savagery run rampant. When the bloodthirsty mobs caught one of those rich noblemen that you lib idiots think were evil incarnate, they didn't just send him to the guillotine; They beheaded his entire family, including his children, and cheered as each and every severed head was hoisted up (Again, including the children's heads).
Innumerable women were raped.
Churches and monasteries, many of which were centuries old, were desecrated and burned.
Priests and other clergymen were hacked to death by the mobs for no reason whatsoever.
Then there's the flat- out inhuman story of what happened to the Princess Lamballe. She was a kind, virtuous, and noble woman, who had been friends with Marie Antoinette since they were children. When the Revolution broke out, the Princess was captured, and put on trial for trumped- up charges they made up on the spot, where they demanded that she, on pain of death, declare her allegiance to the new order in France and renounce/ declare her hatred of the former king and queen (Who had been ousted and imprisoned by that point, but not yet executed). Lamballe said that she'd agree to the former of the two conditions, but not the latter, because she knew Louis and Marie, and loved them both. The people presiding over this grotesque perversion of justice responded to this by tossing the Princess Lamballe into the street, where the rabid mobs gang- raped her and then literally tore her limb from limb. One of her legs was shot out of a cannon. A rioter took her heart, baked it, and ate it. Her head and genitals were stuck on poles and hoisted in front of the window to Marie Antoinette's prison cell while the mob shouted for the former queen to "Kiss your lover!".
Things got so bad that eventually the intellectuals who had inspired and supported the French Revolution either were forced to flee the country when they realized how out of control it had gotten (i.e. Thomas Paine), or were themselves beheaded by the very same mobs that they had incited and stirred up but lost control of (i.e. Robespierre).
This is the sort of thing the DUmmies want to happen in the US, never realizing that they will eventually wind up meeting the same fate as Robespierre were it to happen.
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^Good stuff, buff !
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Well So much for being against the death penalty huh Kentuck?
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Well So much for being against the death penalty huh Kentuck?
Good point. To the DUmmies, being wealthy is an act deserving of death; but committing murder, rape, and kidnapping are not.
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Good point. To the DUmmies, being wealthy is an act deserving of death; but committing murder, rape, and kidnapping are not.
Libs need to be careful to take away the wealthy one's wealth as "free" stuff, before they serve sentence.
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Again and again, DUmmies fantasize about killing. This recurrent theme reveals a lot about DU
Infantile Conflict Resolution.
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Infantile Conflict Resolution.
Bloody Purge Syndrome.
or SAPS
Stalinist All Purpose Solution
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Things got so bad that eventually the intellectuals who had inspired and supported the French Revolution either were forced to flee the country when they realized how out of control it had gotten (i.e. Thomas Paine)
I did not know that. Thank you.
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Well So much for being against the death penalty huh Kentuck?
He was for it, after he was against it, after he was for it.....
....on Wednesday.
....two months ago.
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I heard that it was customary to tip the executioner so that he would make the beheading cleanly and quickly.
That is what I thought i had read but wasn't sure if the book was fiction. Frank explained it.
No, that wasn't fiction, but it was a little bit different than that.
The family of the condemned, if they cared and if they had the means, paid to have a professional axeman do the job, rather than a cheaper amateur axeman.
Being a decapitator wasn't a minimum-wage job.
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Now, don't any of you forget, it's REALLY the conservatives who use hateful rhetoric specfically designed to openly encourage violence! THEY'RE the ones engaging in stochastic terrorism!
For all these ignorant liberal idiots who love romanticizing the French Revolution and pretending that it was just the king and queen and a bunch of despicable, pure- evil rich noblemen who got guillotined, and who wish such a thing would happen here today, here's a news flash: That's not what it was really like!
In real life, the French Revolution was a hideous explosion of lawlessness, barbarism, and savagery run rampant. When the bloodthirsty mobs caught one of those rich noblemen that you lib idiots think were evil incarnate, they didn't just send him to the guillotine; They beheaded his entire family, including his children, and cheered as each and every severed head was hoisted up (Again, including the children's heads).
Innumerable women were raped.
Churches and monasteries, many of which were centuries old, were desecrated and burned.
Priests and other clergymen were hacked to death by the mobs for no reason whatsoever.
Then there's the flat- out inhuman story of what happened to the Princess Lamballe. She was a kind, virtuous, and noble woman, who had been friends with Marie Antoinette since they were children. When the Revolution broke out, the Princess was captured, and put on trial for trumped- up charges they made up on the spot, where they demanded that she, on pain of death, declare her allegiance to the new order in France and renounce/ declare her hatred of the former king and queen (Who had been ousted and imprisoned by that point, but not yet executed). Lamballe said that she'd agree to the former of the two conditions, but not the latter, because she knew Louis and Marie, and loved them both. The people presiding over this grotesque perversion of justice responded to this by tossing the Princess Lamballe into the street, where the rabid mobs gang- raped her and then literally tore her limb from limb. One of her legs was shot out of a cannon. A rioter took her heart, baked it, and ate it. Her head and genitals were stuck on poles and hoisted in front of the window to Marie Antoinette's prison cell while the mob shouted for the former queen to "Kiss your lover!".
Things got so bad that eventually the intellectuals who had inspired and supported the French Revolution either were forced to flee the country when they realized how out of control it had gotten (i.e. Thomas Paine), or were themselves beheaded by the very same mobs that they had incited and stirred up but lost control of (i.e. Robespierre).
This is the sort of thing the DUmmies want to happen in the US, never realizing that they will eventually wind up meeting the same fate as Robespierre were it to happen.
That pesky Second Amendment gets in the way. Most of those that the DUmb****s hate are armed.
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An executed cop killer, without exception, means a lost democrat vote.
In Chicago, the dead shall vote again.
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I did not know that. Thank you.
yw.
From how I understand it (and I could be wrong), Paine initially supported the French Revolution (So much so that he lived in France for a while and wrote countless articles in favor of it) because he had been duped into believing that it was fundamentally simlar to the American Revolution in terms of its goals and similar factors, and he felt that his experience and personal guidance through his writings could help it be equally successful. Eventually, however, as the anarchy and bloodshed grew worse and worse and the mobs became harder and harder for Robespierre and his ilk to control, Paine realized that he would almost certainly be executed sooner or later if he stayed, so he got the hell out of France as quickly as he could.
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yw.
From how I understand it (and I could be wrong), Paine initially supported the French Revolution (So much so that he lived in France for a while and wrote countless articles in favor of it) because he had been duped into believing that it was fundamentally simlar to the American Revolution in terms of its goals and similar factors, and he felt that his experience and personal guidance through his writings could help it be equally successful. Eventually, however, as the anarchy and bloodshed grew worse and worse and the mobs became harder and harder for Robespierre and his ilk to control, Paine realized that he would almost certainly be executed sooner or later if he stayed, so he got the hell out of France as quickly as he could.
Not to mention France was somewhat of a reliable ally during the Revolutionary War.
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I just want to add, that the DUmmies practiced one of their most annoying habits in their thread. Everybody answers Kentuck's question, in the same way, without bothering to read the comments that came before. So, you get 20,000 posts of "for a humane way to kill." Why don't they read first?
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I just want to add, that the DUmmies practiced one of their most annoying habits in their thread. Everybody answers Kentuck's question, in the same way, without bothering to read the comments that came before. So, you get 20,000 posts of "for a humane way to kill." Why don't they read first?
They are too intellectually vacant and too full of baseless arrogance to care what others have said.
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Not to mention France was somewhat of a reliable ally during the Revolutionary War.
Indeed, the Continental forces could not have won at Yorktown but for the French Navy sealing off the British forces from relief, I believe the French also had significant land forces present there too, but off-hand I don't know if they were marine contingents landed from the fleet, or army forces transported there.
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6. Actually, kind of a funny story
The guy who invented it actually had his head chopped off by one during the french revolution.
No he didn't.
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No he didn't.
Dr. Guillotin died in Paris in 1814 of natural causes (old age).