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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-19-08 02:29 PMOriginal message Pentagon ships troops to the US to prepare for civil unrest. http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=... 3rd Infantry's 1st Brigade Combat Team trains for a new dwell-time mission……Helping 'people at home' may become a permanent part of the active ArmyThe 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.Now they're training for the same mission - with a twist - at home.Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command , as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.HERE IS THE KEY PARAGRAPH…..They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.T…he 1st BCT's soldiers also will learn how to use "the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded," 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them."It's a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they're fielding. They've been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we're undertaking we were the first to get it."Don't say I didn't warn you.link appears to be missing. Passed on from mediachannel.org
Paint It Black (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-19-08 11:11 AMResponse to Reply #9 10. That was my first thought as well Can't get any more obvious than that. They're planning to STEAL the election, they know that people nationwide will be PISSED and will be taking to the streets.NOT THIS TIME.
And if an NBC attack did occur on American soil and the Army was unprepared, that would prove that George Bush doens't care about black people.
Quote from: Red October on September 19, 2008, 10:21:04 AMAnd if an NBC attack did occur on American soil and the Army was unprepared, that would prove that George Bush doens't care about black people. Ummm . . . as Steve Doocy on Fox & Friendspointed out not too long ago, NBC is attacking . . .
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on September 19, 2008, 11:51:17 AMQuote from: Red October on September 19, 2008, 10:21:04 AMAnd if an NBC attack did occur on American soil and the Army was unprepared, that would prove that George Bush doens't care about black people. Ummm . . . as Steve Doocy on Fox & Friendspointed out not too long ago, NBC is attacking . . . Would that hold up as an official target designation, though?Has the Rules of Engagement authorized the engagement of fourth estate fifth columnists without our actually having taken fire from them yet?
Somebody ought to get a screwdriver and pop lonestarnot's panic button back out, the ****er seems to be jammed.
QuotePaint It Black (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-19-08 11:11 AMResponse to Reply #9 10. That was my first thought as well Can't get any more obvious than that. They're planning to STEAL the election, they know that people nationwide will be PISSED and will be taking to the streets.NOT THIS TIME. Someone around here has been shooting off his big mouth. Do not discuss operational plans with DUmmies.
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on September 19, 2008, 10:14:46 AMSomebody ought to get a screwdriver and pop lonestarnot's panic button back out, the ****er seems to be jammed.lol! Gotta remember that one. Original?
shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-19-08 11:03 AMResponse to Original message 7. This is some old bullshit here These guys are front line Iraq troops. Stone cold killers. You CANNOT put them in a peaceful civilian setting and expect them to be able to adjust after years of being in a hot zone. They'll be on a hair trigger in whatever situation they're put into and bad things will happen.
shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-19-08 11:14 AMResponse to Reply #8 11. I used to drive cab on a base A lot of these guys really hate each other back home. The rivalry between units is amazing. You wonder how any of them can fight together but they are tight with their battle buddies. I take nothing away from the bravery of our soldiers but this war is screwing them all up in record numbers and the army doesn't give them time to decompress. A ton of guys where I am get in trouble. Robberies, drugs, murder, suicides, you name it. While I was driving taxi a few times there were mysterious lock downs of the base due to a soldier going batshit and hurting someone or going awol. Couple of them took off with a humvee once.The real interesting times will start when we finally get them home. hundreds of thousands of them are going to need help.
readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-19-08 04:26 PMResponse to Reply #6 57. Martial law, here we are. I'm in Texas. It's martial law right now. The RNC protests? Martial law. New surveillance deregulation (no controls on physical surveillance)? Martial law.
YEBBA (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-19-08 11:21 AMResponse to Reply #11 12. REPUBLICANS DESTROY ALL THEY TOUCH Robberies, drugs, murder, suicides, you name it. While I was driving taxi a few times there were mysterious lock downs of the base due to a soldier going batshit and hurting someone or going awol. Couple of them took off with a humvee once.
shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-19-08 11:25 AMResponse to Reply #12 13. A soldier robbed one of our cabbies at gunpoint Unfortunately for the soldier the driver was crazier than he was and ran after him and ended up chasing him into a building and watching the exits until the cops came. Crazy ****er. I was robbed once and I played the victim and am not ashamed about it. You really don't know how you're going to react until you have that cold metal against your head. Didn't piss or shit myself at least lol.
NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-19-08 12:42 PMResponse to Reply #28 32. Fair Enough and I'm not discounting your personal experience but some of that increase in major crime could be attributed to the downturn of the economy as well, don't you think?As a veteran of combat zones myself, MY personal experience has been that most combat vets are some of the calmest people I know. If I had a choice of who I'd want around me in panic inducing situation, I'd pick combat vets every time.
shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-19-08 12:46 PM Make no mistake, and thank you for your service, I have nothing but respect for most troops But I met some guys who you could just tell weren't going to be able to readjust well. Met a lot of them hung up on hard drugs too and heavy drinkers. I learned more about what combat vets go through than I ever wanted to believe me. They would open up to me a lot and tell me some nightmarish things.
readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-19-08 04:29 PMResponse to Reply #41 60. Then bring in the peace corps or bring back the National Guard. Not the INFANTRY. We Americans have been managing just fine without soldiers 'helping' on American soil.
TwoSparkles (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-20-08 10:11 AMResponse to Reply #41 95. Ok, but we're talking about our military.... Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 10:11 AM by TwoSparkles...controlling protestors and using weapons on them--inside our own country!For the love of Pete...No one is disparaging the service of our military personnel overseas.The entire point of this thread is that the military is being trainedto use weapons on people who dare to protest our government.You don't see a problem with that?Your service is commendable, but it's a bit of a red herring in thisdiscussion.
Piewhacket (114 posts) Sat Sep-20-08 12:52 AMResponse to Original message 81. OK, NOW its time to PANIC. FREEK out people. I can't right now, I'm too freeked out.Bush isn't planning to leave after all. The US as a banana republic war zone. The MF are going to start a riot, make it look like someone's (ie "our") fault, declare marshallaw and cancel elections for the duration of the 'emergency'.Then they'll dissolve congress, suspend hapeas corpus, and start rounding up (and murdering) the dissidents (which would include opposition members of congress, of course). Welcome to the Fourth Reich.Who's in charge of this insane ****ing idea. Quick, arrest them. Try and hang them as traitors for plotting the violent overthrow of the United States. Who else is going to stop it? Reed and Pelosi?This is too far. This is beyond frightening.
Yep DUmmie its just to suppress you moonbats when the Messiah is defeated. LinkQuotelonestarnot (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-19-08 02:29 PMOriginal message Pentagon ships troops to the US to prepare for civil unrest. http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=... 3rd Infantry's 1st Brigade Combat Team trains for a new dwell-time mission……Helping 'people at home' may become a permanent part of the active ArmyThe 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.Now they're training for the same mission - with a twist - at home.Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command , as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.HERE IS THE KEY PARAGRAPH…..They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.T…he 1st BCT's soldiers also will learn how to use "the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded," 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them."It's a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they're fielding. They've been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we're undertaking we were the first to get it."Don't say I didn't warn you.link appears to be missing. Passed on from mediachannel.org