Federal Judge Prohibits Prayer at Texas Graduation Ceremony

[JJ_Frankenbeanz]

Until the NEA, there was no problem with public schools.  The problem arose when the public schools became an arm of the government instead of remaining the property of the local community. 

Everyone that lives in a community benefits from the local school, though less now than when we had full ownership...and less than we benefit from private schools.  Still, the fact remains that, without them, a large percentage of children would learn nothing...making it impossible for them to become productive citizens someday, making far more of them a continual drag on the resources of those that are educated and those that work hard.

Why do we even need a government-based educational system at all?

Some of the greatest Americans were self-educated, and they didn't even have the internet.

[JJ_Frankenbeanz]

You should take some lessons on how to be a better internet dickhead, kid, you are way too obvious.

I've been a dickhead for nearly as long as there has been an Internet, and long before the Web came along.

I've never tried to hide it before. Now, I just to it with Hypertext.

[MrsSmith]

Why do we even need a government-based educational system at all?

Some of the greatest Americans were self-educated, and they didn't even have the internet.

We don't.  The best school system was the locally owned system, when the community supported and ran it's own school.  It's the government control that made the schools the disasters they are.  However, given the current laws on the books, if there were no public schools, many kids wouldn't even get the poor education provided.  The best scenario would be to get the Feds out of the schools altogether and return control 100% to the communities.  It won't stop the necessity of supporting them through local taxation, just as we all support our police, fire departments, ambulance services, etc.  Educated citizens are a necessity to the foundation and continuance of a community, just as married couples and churches are...three of the few things currently still correctly recognized in our tax code.

[JJ_Frankenbeanz]

We don't.  The best school system was the locally owned system, when the community supported and ran it's own school.  It's the government control that made the schools the disasters they are.  However, given the current laws on the books, if there were no public schools, many kids wouldn't even get the poor education provided.  The best scenario would be to get the Feds out of the schools altogether and return control 100% to the communities.  It won't stop the necessity of supporting them through local taxation, just as we all support our police, fire departments, ambulance services, etc.  Educated citizens are a necessity to the foundation and continuance of a community, just as married couples and churches are...three of the few things currently still correctly recognized in our tax code.

Tax supported police, fire departments and ambulance services are all socialism as far as I'm concerned, and don't even get me started on government subsidized marriage and religion.

I have the resources to protect myself. Most of the shitstains in my local "community" can't, so they tax me to pay people to protect themselves from each other.

Personally, I'd prefer they just go ahead and wipe themselves out.

[Splashdown]

Wow. You're awesome. 

[Eupher]

I guess he'd better hope he never gets T-boned by a freight train at 2 a.m.

If he can't get to his cell phone because both arms have been severed in the ensuing crash, his "resources" ain't all that dependable...

[TVDOC]

Tax supported police, fire departments and ambulance services are all socialism as far as I'm concerned, and don't even get me started on government subsidized marriage and religion.

I have the resources to protect myself. Most of the shitstains in my local "community" can't, so they tax me to pay people to protect themselves from each other.

Personally, I'd prefer they just go ahead and wipe themselves out.

Geez.....I'll bet you are a real hit at neighborhood barbecues.  Wonder if all the nice folks in Smyrna, Tennesee know how you feel about them??

Knowing a bit about that community, I'd hazard a guess that more than a few of them can take care of themselves,,,,,,,,,,and take care of you as well.

Let's get back on topic please........

doc

[rich_t]

The judge declared that the Schultz family and their son would “suffer irreparable harm” if anyone prayed at the ceremony.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/02/prayer-prohibited-at-graduation-ceremony/#ixzz1PCIPwo5n

I'd like to ask that idiot judge exactly what irreparable harm that would be.  I'd also like to point out to the asshat judge that the 1st amendment in part protects the freedom "OF" religion.  Not the freedom "FROM" religion.

I'm willing to bet that if the valedictorian in question was a muslim and wanted to pray to allah that nothing would have been done at all by the court.