"Earth Liberation Front" strikes in Washington State

[tuolumnejim]

There needs to be a bounty on *sshats dead or alive.

Link

Fire burns "Street of Dreams" homes in Snohomish County
The Associated Press

WOODINVILLE, Wash. — Four large homes are burning at a "Street of Dreams" model home development north of Woodinville, and the Snohomish County District Seven Chief Rick Eastman told KING-TV that a sign saying ELF was left at the scene.

ELF or Earth Liberation Front has claimed responsibility for other arsons, including one at the University of Washington in 2001 for which a woman is now on trial in Tacoma.

[Chris_]

Domestic Terrorists should be treated like international terrorists -- shoot on sight.

[Lauri]

My girlfriend and I were at the Street of Dreams last year... the homes are phenominal and set in a beautiful area, so of course, the ELF must destroy them. I'm glad I took so many pictures of them - the craftmanship and time that went in to those houses was breathtaking.

I wonder where the ELF lives? in shacks? mud huts?


holes in the ground? 

[RedTail]

I don't get why ELF burns stuff.

By burning, they release FAR more chemicals into the atmosphere than those houses ever did while standing.

All that carpet, paint, wood, glass and metal doesn't exactly just melt/crack/peel/disintegrate w/o letting SOMETHING into the air.

For a group that is freaking' environmentally conscious, I wanna know why they wantonly pollute so.

*TKay*

[Splashdown]

They're terrorists and should be treated as such!   

[tuolumnejim]

My girlfriend and I were at the Street of Dreams last year... the homes are phenominal and set in a beautiful area, so of course, the ELF must destroy them. I'm glad I took so many pictures of them - the craftmanship and time that went in to those houses was breathtaking.

I wonder where the ELF lives? in shacks? mud huts?


holes in the ground? 

Post a couple of pic's of what they looked like, here's a video link of what they looked like today.

[The Night Owl]

They're terrorists and should be treated as such!   

Don't hold your breath waiting for the US to carry out airstrikes within the US.

[Lauri]

I don't get why ELF burns stuff.

By burning, they release FAR more chemicals into the atmosphere than those houses ever did while standing.

All that carpet, paint, wood, glass and metal doesn't exactly just melt/crack/peel/disintegrate w/o letting SOMETHING into the air.

For a group that is freaking' environmentally conscious, I wanna know why they wantonly pollute so.

*TKay*

not to mention, those homes will just be rebuilt...   every home they've ever burned down was rebuilt.

[Lauri]

My girlfriend and I were at the Street of Dreams last year... the homes are phenominal and set in a beautiful area, so of course, the ELF must destroy them. I'm glad I took so many pictures of them - the craftmanship and time that went in to those houses was breathtaking.

I wonder where the ELF lives? in shacks? mud huts?


holes in the ground? 

Post a couple of pic's of what they looked like, here's a video link of what they looked like today.

http://flickr.com/photos/jeffsand/sets/72157601114207409/?photo_deleted=958210885


here is the set, but the photos just do not do them justice...   

[Lauri]

so, the updated news we've heard this morning on FOX is that ELF left behind a big 4 foot sign to claim responsibility which read, "These homes were supposed to be green"

meaning, they didnt feel the materials used were up to their standards.

i dont recall this particular Street of Dreams as being "the Green Collection" or anything of that nature.. but it was a while back, so I could be wrong.

[The Night Owl]

I don't get why ELF burns stuff.

By burning, they release FAR more chemicals into the atmosphere than those houses ever did while standing.

All that carpet, paint, wood, glass and metal doesn't exactly just melt/crack/peel/disintegrate w/o letting SOMETHING into the air.

For a group that is freaking' environmentally conscious, I wanna know why they wantonly pollute so.

*TKay*

The amount of pollution caused by even a very large structure fire is too small to have an impact on the atmosphere. That said, people in ELF are idiots if they think that their childish activities are going to bring about the result they desire.

[Chris_]

I don't get why ELF burns stuff.

By burning, they release FAR more chemicals into the atmosphere than those houses ever did while standing.

All that carpet, paint, wood, glass and metal doesn't exactly just melt/crack/peel/disintegrate w/o letting SOMETHING into the air.

For a group that is freaking' environmentally conscious, I wanna know why they wantonly pollute so.

*TKay*

...and then the houses will be rebuilt...using more eeeevil natural resources.   

[guest]

I hate what they do.   But I have to give them credit for operating the way they do in order to avoid capture.  They aren't an organized group, just a bunch of splinter groups and individuals.   

Have they ever  officially been called a domestic terrorist organization?  Just curious.

[Lauri]

I hate what they do.   But I have to give them credit for operating the way they do in order to avoid capture.  They aren't an organized group, just a bunch of splinter groups and individuals.   

Have they ever been officially been called a domestic terrorist organization?  Just curious.

you give them credit for eluding capture??

[Chris_]

I hate what they do.   But I have to give them credit for operating the way they do in order to avoid capture.  They aren't an organized group, just a bunch of splinter groups and individuals.   

Have they ever been officially been called a domestic terrorist organization?  Just curious.

you give them credit for eluding capture??

You entirely misunderstood my post.   I am saying that they are, unfortunately,  smart for NOT being an organized group in the way they go about their crimes.   

I do NOT LIKE WHAT THEY DO.   What else can I do to make myself clear enough on that?

[TheSarge]

Have they ever been officially been called a domestic terrorist organization?  Just curious.

Yes.

Earth Liberation Front is now FBI’s No. 1 Domestic Terrorist Threat-

http://prfamerica.org/EarthLiberationFrontNo1onFBIList.html

[guest]

Have they ever been officially been called a domestic terrorist organization?  Just curious.

Yes.

Earth Liberation Front is now FBI’s No. 1 Domestic Terrorist Threat-

http://prfamerica.org/EarthLiberationFrontNo1onFBIList.html

Okay, that's somewhat comforting to know.   

It's sad, though, that group will never completely go away.  There is no organizational hierarchy in ELF, just a bunch of little groups and individuals. 

[Lauri]

I hate what they do.   But I have to give them credit for operating the way they do in order to avoid capture.  They aren't an organized group, just a bunch of splinter groups and individuals.   

Have they ever been officially been called a domestic terrorist organization?  Just curious.

you give them credit for eluding capture??

You entirely misunderstood my post.   I am saying that they are, unfortunately,  smart for NOT being an organized group in the way they go about their crimes.   

I do NOT LIKE WHAT THEY DO.   What else can I do to make myself clear enough on that?

its a weird stance to take... but if that's how you feel, that's fine. i dont find anything that they've done 'smart' by any stretch of the imagination and yes, some of them are in prison and have been captured.

[guest]

I hate what they do.   But I have to give them credit for operating the way they do in order to avoid capture.  They aren't an organized group, just a bunch of splinter groups and individuals.   

Have they ever been officially been called a domestic terrorist organization?  Just curious.

you give them credit for eluding capture??

You entirely misunderstood my post.   I am saying that they are, unfortunately,  smart for NOT being an organized group in the way they go about their crimes.   

I do NOT LIKE WHAT THEY DO.   What else can I do to make myself clear enough on that?

its a weird stance to take... but if that's how you feel, that's fine. i dont find anything that they've done 'smart' by any stretch of the imagination and yes, some of them are in prison and have been captured.

You still don't get it.        It's not a weird stance.  I am merely saying that by acting as splinter groups and individuals, the odds of the organization being completely disbanded are slim to none.  There's no hierarchy that the government can go after. 

[Lauri]

I hate what they do.   But I have to give them credit for operating the way they do in order to avoid capture.  They aren't an organized group, just a bunch of splinter groups and individuals.   

Have they ever been officially been called a domestic terrorist organization?  Just curious.

you give them credit for eluding capture??

You entirely misunderstood my post.   I am saying that they are, unfortunately,  smart for NOT being an organized group in the way they go about their crimes.   

I do NOT LIKE WHAT THEY DO.   What else can I do to make myself clear enough on that?

its a weird stance to take... but if that's how you feel, that's fine. i dont find anything that they've done 'smart' by any stretch of the imagination and yes, some of them are in prison and have been captured.

You still don't get it.        It's not a weird stance.  I am merely saying that by acting as splinter groups and individuals, the odds of the organization being completely disbanded are slim to none. 

i do get it.. i just dont agree with you. and since they are now actually termed as domestic terrorists (dont know when that occured, but i am glad they finally made the list) they have better teams of experts looking for them.

[Chris_]

i do get it.. i just dont agree with you. and since they are now actually termed as domestic terrorists (dont know when that occured, but i am glad they finally made the list) they have better teams of experts looking for them.

I would hope that there are better people finding ways to infiltrate the splinter groups in order to bust them.   I am not trying to paint them in a positive light at all.  I am only saying that their tactics to avoid capture are sadly working. 

[Rebel]

I don't get why ELF burns stuff.

By burning, they release FAR more chemicals into the atmosphere than those houses ever did while standing.

All that carpet, paint, wood, glass and metal doesn't exactly just melt/crack/peel/disintegrate w/o letting SOMETHING into the air.

For a group that is freaking' environmentally conscious, I wanna know why they wantonly pollute so.

*TKay*

..because it has nothing to do with pollution. It has to do with class warfare and their hatred of Capitalism. Don't see too many '78 Ford pickups vandalized, do ya? Yet they pollute a HELLUVA lot more than an '08 Escalade.

[DixieBelle]

I don't get why ELF burns stuff.

By burning, they release FAR more chemicals into the atmosphere than those houses ever did while standing.

All that carpet, paint, wood, glass and metal doesn't exactly just melt/crack/peel/disintegrate w/o letting SOMETHING into the air.

For a group that is freaking' environmentally conscious, I wanna know why they wantonly pollute so.

*TKay*

..because it has nothing to do with pollution. It has to do with class warfare and their hatred of Capitalism. Don't see too many '78 Ford pickups vandalized, do ya? Yet they pollute a HELLUVA lot more than an '08 Escalade.

BINGO!!!!

I've always wondered why the tree-huggin' granola heads don't go after old clunkers and sportscars. Instead, they focus all of their rage on SUV's because that's a symbol of all they hate.

[Attero Dominatus]

I don't get why ELF burns stuff.

By burning, they release FAR more chemicals into the atmosphere than those houses ever did while standing.

All that carpet, paint, wood, glass and metal doesn't exactly just melt/crack/peel/disintegrate w/o letting SOMETHING into the air.

For a group that is freaking' environmentally conscious, I wanna know why they wantonly pollute so.

*TKay*

Ecoterrorists are like DUmmies. Their hatrid has consumed any common sense and rationality they might have had before.

[ReardenSteel]

I don't get why ELF burns stuff.

By burning, they release FAR more chemicals into the atmosphere than those houses ever did while standing.

All that carpet, paint, wood, glass and metal doesn't exactly just melt/crack/peel/disintegrate w/o letting SOMETHING into the air.

For a group that is freaking' environmentally conscious, I wanna know why they wantonly pollute so.

*TKay*

The amount of pollution caused by even a very large structure fire is too small to have an impact on the atmosphere. That said, people in ELF are idiots if they think that their childish activities are going to bring about the result they desire.

Yeah the "pollution" argument against ELF is weak but is there something you care to confess about your childhood Owl?

You mocked the terrorist post with your comment about "airstrikes" but your dismissal of using arson as a political tactic as "childlike" is even more extream. There are many ways of dealing with terrorist including arrest. Your tactic is far more dangerous.