Army Recruiters Shot

[djones520]

Just read an update.  Neither man was a recruiter.  They where both Active Duty members who where home on the Recruiters Assistance Program.

 

Edit:  I guess NHS had already posted this.

[The Village Idiot]

Just read an update.  Neither man was a recruiter.  They where both Active Duty members who where home on the Recruiters Assistance Program.

 

I stick to the headlines

[5412]

Every time I meet one of those fools, I'd like to ask them what their mama named them.  I imagine they wouldn't take it too well.  The only one I've actually met had a dozen different "names" he went by.

Hi,

What a damn shame!  This is gonna really give the left some problems.  First the killer is black....so it was really the fault of the evil, rich greedy white man, the poor lad was misunderstood.

On the other hand he had an ASSUALT weapon.  No kidding, isn't any weapon used to kill another an assualt weapon?  The gun control folks should be on that like cops on doughnuts.  And, God forbid, he had a blg SUV....

What a dilemma that puts them in because the left feels such empathy for the poor downtrodden minority trying to find their way.....but he did have an ASSUALT weapon and an SUV.  So which way does the compliant media go on the matter?   They have to wait until they get their talking points from the DNC before they take a stand on this one.  I am sure if the guy got convicted and the case was appealed to the current supreme court nominee she would find some way to reduce his sentence like having to write "I was a bad boy" on the blackboard 100 times or something.

Personally, I do not think the government has to protect the recuriters at all, all the military has to do is make carrying a weapon part of their Uniform of the Day and they will do a fine job protecting themselves.  Yeah, I am outraged and I agree with the poster that blames the left and their anti-military crap. 

Why do I feel that if BO even issues a statement it will be something very bland.....

nite,
5412 

[The Village Idiot]

Personally, I do not think the government has to protect the recuriters at all, all the military has to do is make carrying a weapon part of their Uniform of the Day and they will do a fine job protecting themselves.  

Eric Holder sent the US Marshalls to protect all the abortion centers. As if there was some mass mayhem going on.

[Bluesuiter-Retired]

"the dear leader" will not condemn the shooting, unlike his outrage when "TILLER THE BABY BUTCHER" was gunned down at a church.

[Chris_]

You know I never really understood how a Muslim can't draw a picture of Muhammad but they can take his name. To me that is disrespectful. Of course why anyone would want a mass murderer and child molesters name is beyond me.

[Chris]

Recruiting Center Shooting Suspect Under FBI Investigation

The suspect, Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, reportedly had been under investigation by the FBI Joint Terrorist Task Force after he traveled to Yemen and was arrested there for using a Somali passport.

According to ABC News, the investigation was in its early stages and was based on Muhammad's travel to Yemen. While there, Muhammed, a recent convert to Islam, studied jihad with an Islamic scholar, Jihadwatch.org reported.

A police report based on an interview with the suspect said Muhammad, 23, told police he observed two soldiers in uniform on Monday, drove up to the recruiting center in Little Rock and started shooting.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,524139,00.html

[Crazy Horse]

Never expected us to get back to pre 9/11 mentality this fast

[dutch508]

The recent Islamic Terrorist Attack on a Recruiting Station by an American Citizen turned to Islam should leave no doubt in anyone's mind that this is anything but a Overseas Contingency Operation.

The loss of one of our soldiers and the wounding of another is nothing more than an Assault upon this country by an enemy who is driven to destroy us. Will this administration, now that a Terrorist Attack has happened on their watch, do anything other than blame disgruntled veterans and patriotic citizens?

The utter silence coming out of the West Wing is further proof that this president is more concerned with using strong armed Chicago gangland tactics to shut down debate against it's leftist policies rather than the murder of one of this country's armed forces.

At the very least, the president should condem radical islam and strive to shut down the centers of hate that recruited the attacker, led him to Yemen to lean to despise his own country, and took him down the path to murder in the name of his god.

The two soldiers should be recognised by the president and awarded both the Purple Heart for wounds recieved by an enemy, and the Bronze Star for the soldier who was killed in action.

I doubt we will see any such action from this administration, for it would force them to acknowledge that we are fighting a global war and not some limited police action.

The fact that the Commander in Chief has not made a statement, nor the Joint Chiefs, nor any Military command is glaring. Units across the United States should be raising their readiness status. Recruiting Stations should be armed. Soldiers off duty should be prepared to defend themselves.

[Salaam]

What can I say that I haven't elsewhere many times over?  I forgot I even had an account here, so sorry for my absence.  Eitherway, I'm equally shocked and appalled and was up at 2:30 am getting all my thoughts out there on the issue.

American Muslims need to be on this like white on rice to ensure we prevent incidents like this as much as possible from happening again.  As Thor pointed out on my blog we need a new PR firm, moreso we need a better education mechanism.  Granted, there isn't much one can do about someone leaving the country to learn hate (at least that proves that it isn't "homegrown") however, between the authorities and Muslims something has to be in place to accurately monitor and protect against those who go elsewhere in order to bring that evil back to their country of origin.

Now I'm not going to get into the blatant negativity or insults hurled at my religion in this thread and beyond as I expect that these days given the environment and the location of my commentary, but know that no matter how many times some non-Muslims and the terrorists want to call or state that my faith promotes violence, will make it anymore true.  For every terrorist who claims to be a Muslim, there are are millions more who live in peace and coexist with non-Muslims here in America and the world over without incident and for centuries.

These two soldiers should be honored for their service and it's disturbing to hear nothing from senior officials in the DOD or Administration at this point.  Who knows their reasoning behind being silent.  If I took a stab at it, it may have to do with Obama's mideast trip not wanting to stir the pot anymore than it already is.  Granted, as a black Muslim convert, I'm not that interested in another round of suspicious looks and comments, but at the same time, sweeping this incident under a rug, won't make it go away either.

My prayers and thoughts are with the victims families and our nation always.

[docstew]

What can I say that I haven't elsewhere many times over?  I forgot I even had an account here, so sorry for my absence.  Eitherway, I'm equally shocked and appalled and was up at 2:30 am getting all my thoughts out there on the issue.

American Muslims need to be on this like white on rice to ensure we prevent incidents like this as much as possible from happening again.  As Thor pointed out on my blog we need a new PR firm, moreso we need a better education mechanism.  Granted, there isn't much one can do about someone leaving the country to learn hate (at least that proves that it isn't "homegrown") however, between the authorities and Muslims something has to be in place to accurately monitor and protect against those who go elsewhere in order to bring that evil back to their country of origin.

Now I'm not going to get into the blatant negativity or insults hurled at my religion in this thread and beyond as I expect that these days given the environment and the location of my commentary, but know that no matter how many times some non-Muslims and the terrorists want to call or state that my faith promotes violence, will make it anymore true.  For every terrorist who claims to be a Muslim, there are are millions more who live in peace and coexist with non-Muslims here in America and the world over without incident and for centuries.

These two soldiers should be honored for their service and it's disturbing to hear nothing from senior officials in the DOD or Administration at this point.  Who knows their reasoning behind being silent.  If I took a stab at it, it may have to do with Obama's mideast trip not wanting to stir the pot anymore than it already is.  Granted, as a black Muslim convert, I'm not that interested in another round of suspicious looks and comments, but at the same time, sweeping this incident under a rug, won't make it go away either.

My prayers and thoughts are with the victims families and our nation always.

Sarge, I'll give ya the credit for speaking out against this, but I also have to say this.  For every terrorist who claims to be a Muslim, there are millions more who are silent about deeds carried out in the "name of their religion", now and for the past few decades.

[Ptarmigan]

Sounds like a terrorist attack to me.

[Ptarmigan]

Sarge, I'll give ya the credit for speaking out against this, but I also have to say this.  For every terrorist who claims to be a Muslim, there are millions more who are silent about deeds carried out in the "name of their religion", now and for the past few decades.

Silence=Acceptance

[dutch508]

Realistically, we cannot do much more that what we are currently doing to prevent idiots like these.  Nor has any solutions from our critics come up.  In fact, many of them wouldn't be happy no matter what we do or say unless we left our faith.  At best, we need to ramp up our education efforts in the Mosques and be more like a true brotherhood and sisterhood to ensure our ranks are not being infiltrated by murders.

From your website. http://salaamsblog.wordpress.com/

Certainly, many have heard about the abortion doctor's murder by a Christianist, radical extremist Christian, Christian terrorist, etc. (don’t like when it’s your religion huh?) this weekend where an abortion doctor was killed in the church and a fellow Christian of the same sect murdered him because of differing ideologies.

I have heard much about the murder of Dr. Tiller. The president of the US has commented on it. I am sure by now, the DOJ under the direction of Mr. Holder is pouring FBI agents into various anti-abortion groups trying to uncover a plot.

What I have not heard much about is the assassination of a soldier and the wounding of another on active duty by a radical islamic extremest. The leftists would have me believe this is just a random act that has nothing to do with a radical form of your religion regardless of the fact the person in question traveled to Yemen to train for just sort of an attack. I find it hard to believe that in the same breath the left would tell us about Christian terrorism and hush any attempt to call this attack Islamic terrorism.

Although reports in the news claim he was under FBI investigation, I wonder how much time the FBI had to investigate and if they're time was spent looking into veterans' groups and tea parties.

I read your thoughts on the issues. I would have thought that decrying the assassination would have been good enough, but you went on to try to figure out how best to deflect any negative feelings towards your religion. It makes me wonder which concerns you most- the death of a US soldier, or bad press.

Given the verbage towards the latter, I don't doubt it mirrors the current administration concerns.

[JohnnyReb]

Sarge, I'll give ya the credit for speaking out against this, but I also have to say this.  For every terrorist who claims to be a Muslim, there are millions more who are silent about deeds carried out in the "name of their religion",now and for the past few decades.

....for the past 140 decades to be a little more exact.

[TheSarge]

What can I say that I haven't elsewhere many times over?  I forgot I even had an account here, so sorry for my absence.  Eitherway, I'm equally shocked and appalled and was up at 2:30 am getting all my thoughts out there on the issue.

American Muslims need to be on this like white on rice to ensure we prevent incidents like this as much as possible from happening again.  As Thor pointed out on my blog we need a new PR firm, moreso we need a better education mechanism.  Granted, there isn't much one can do about someone leaving the country to learn hate (at least that proves that it isn't "homegrown") however, between the authorities and Muslims something has to be in place to accurately monitor and protect against those who go elsewhere in order to bring that evil back to their country of origin.

Now I'm not going to get into the blatant negativity or insults hurled at my religion in this thread and beyond as I expect that these days given the environment and the location of my commentary, but know that no matter how many times some non-Muslims and the terrorists want to call or state that my faith promotes violence, will make it anymore true.  For every terrorist who claims to be a Muslim, there are are millions more who live in peace and coexist with non-Muslims here in America and the world over without incident and for centuries.

These two soldiers should be honored for their service and it's disturbing to hear nothing from senior officials in the DOD or Administration at this point.  Who knows their reasoning behind being silent.  If I took a stab at it, it may have to do with Obama's mideast trip not wanting to stir the pot anymore than it already is.  Granted, as a black Muslim convert, I'm not that interested in another round of suspicious looks and comments, but at the same time, sweeping this incident under a rug, won't make it go away either.

My prayers and thoughts are with the victims families and our nation always.

   Oh goody

[TheSarge]

American Muslims need to be on this like white on rice to ensure we prevent incidents like this as much as possible from happening again.  As Thor pointed out on my blog we need a new PR firm, moreso we need a better education mechanism.  Granted, there isn't much one can do about someone leaving the country to learn hate (at least that proves that it isn't "homegrown") however, between the authorities and Muslims something has to be in place to accurately monitor and protect against those who go elsewhere in order to bring that evil back to their country of origin.

Your "PR firm" in the U.S. is CAIR.  And it's not doing you any justice.  Until the majority of Muslims stand up and say "this is not us"...this group doesn't represent us...people will continue to have the wrong impression.  Doug Hooper and his crew are mor worried about getting talk show hosts kicked off the air and silencing anyone that even gives a sideways glance at Islam more so than doing anything in the way of PR for the faith.

There has been plenty of times when terrorist cells have been busted in this country that a Muslim Representative in this country could have gone in front of the cameras and said "We denounce this...this is not us...we do not approve of these kids of plts...attacks etc in this country".

So far they've swallowed their tongues.

Now I'm not going to get into the blatant negativity or insults hurled at my religion in this thread and beyond as I expect that these days given the environment and the location of my commentary, but know that no matter how many times some non-Muslims and the terrorists want to call or state that my faith promotes violence, will make it anymore true.  For every terrorist who claims to be a Muslim, there are are millions more who live in peace and coexist with non-Muslims here in America and the world over without incident and for centuries.

And yet it is because of their silence that this alleged "blatant negativity" is fostered and allowed to grow.

These two soldiers should be honored for their service and it's disturbing to hear nothing from senior officials in the DOD or Administration at this point.  Who knows their reasoning behind being silent.  If I took a stab at it, it may have to do with Obama's mideast trip not wanting to stir the pot anymore than it already is.   Granted, as a black Muslim convert, I'm not that interested in another round of suspicious looks and comments, but at the same time, sweeping this incident under a rug, won't make it go away either.

What should they say?  Why does someone from the DoD have to say anything about it?  Again you're placing the burden on the wrong group to say or do anything.

It has nothing to do with Obama's mideast trip.   

As someone up thread said..."Silence = Acceptance" until something is done by the Muslim community the alleged attitudes you say are prevelent in this thread will continue.

[Thor]

Sarge, I'll have to defend Salaam to some extent. There ARE Islamic voices decrying radical Islam, but they are not being heard. Whose fault is that ?? I honestly don't know.

Otherwise, Sarge, (TxRadioGuy) you are correct.  (Salaam's an former Marine Sergeant)

[jtyangel]

Hi,

What a damn shame!  This is gonna really give the left some problems.  First the killer is black....so it was really the fault of the evil, rich greedy white man, the poor lad was misunderstood.

On the other hand he had an ASSUALT weapon.  No kidding, isn't any weapon used to kill another an assualt weapon?  The gun control folks should be on that like cops on doughnuts.  And, God forbid, he had a blg SUV....

What a dilemma that puts them in because the left feels such empathy for the poor downtrodden minority trying to find their way.....but he did have an ASSUALT weapon and an SUV.  So which way does the compliant media go on the matter?   They have to wait until they get their talking points from the DNC before they take a stand on this one.  I am sure if the guy got convicted and the case was appealed to the current supreme court nominee she would find some way to reduce his sentence like having to write "I was a bad boy" on the blackboard 100 times or something.

Personally, I do not think the government has to protect the recuriters at all, all the military has to do is make carrying a weapon part of their Uniform of the Day and they will do a fine job protecting themselves.  Yeah, I am outraged and I agree with the poster that blames the left and their anti-military crap. 

Why do I feel that if BO even issues a statement it will be something very bland.....

nite,
5412 

She's probably just say he is absolved by the  'richness' of his cultural history as an African American male. 

[TheSarge]

Sarge, I'll have to defend Salaam to some extent. There ARE Islamic voices decrying radical Islam, but they are not being heard. Whose fault is that ?? I honestly don't know.

Because they don't appeal to the media the way that Ibrahim (Doug) Hooper does with CAIR. 

They want someone trashing us and our way of life (CAIR) rather than the alleged silent majority.

The MSM love to play up the "Great Satan" stereotype.

Otherwise, Sarge, (TxRadioGuy) you are correct.  (Salaam's an former Marine Sergeant)

I know...I recognize him from milnet

[Lanie]

Sarge, I'll have to defend Salaam to some extent. There ARE Islamic voices decrying radical Islam, but they are not being heard. Whose fault is that ?? I honestly don't know.

Otherwise, Sarge, (TxRadioGuy) you are correct.  (Salaam's an former Marine Sergeant)

I've been speaking to Muslims on another forum. They totally think violence in the name of Islam is an oxymoron. I know the majority of Muslims are not bad people.

While I do contribute what this guy did to radical Islam and the radical left, I can't help but notice he was ****ed up before his conversion.

[thundley4]

While I do contribute what this guy did to radical Islam and the radical left, I can't help but notice he was ****ed up before his conversion.

Most of us on this board realize that those on the left have been ****ed up for some time. 

[Thor]

I've been speaking to Muslims on another forum. They totally think violence in the name of Islam is an oxymoron. I know the majority of Muslims are not bad people.

While I do contribute what this guy did to radical Islam and the radical left, I can't help but notice he was ****ed up before his conversion.

Perhaps Muslim clerics need to be a bit more selective about the people they recruit ??

[dutch508]

Perhaps Muslim clerics need to be a bit more selective about the people they recruit ??

I think they are being selective enough as it is...

[BadCat]

I've been speaking to Muslims on another forum. They totally think violence in the name of Islam is an oxymoron. I know the majority of Muslims are not bad people.

While I do contribute what this guy did to radical Islam and the radical left, I can't help but notice he was ****ed up before his conversion.

Gee.
I guess these Muslims have never read the Koran.