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Offline landofconfusion80

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The canary in the coal mine
« on: July 30, 2021, 07:35:52 PM »
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215681144
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Canary in the Coal Mine
’CANARY IN COALMINE’ mega outbreak. Many large public events in Massachusetts town in early July led to 469 #COVID19 casesRightwards arrow 74% in **fully vaccinated**; 90% sampled #DeltaVariant. *Viral loads similar* in fully vaccinated vs unvaccinated. CDC worried


https://mobile.twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1421179048936488962

Dr. Ding is a Harvard epidemiologist who has been well ahead of the curve on delta.

Stay safe, All! 😷
You would think that the blue states would be safer being that vaccination rates would trend higher. Oh well...
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Iheartsocialism
3. Forced vaccines now
If these idiot antivaxxers would be forced to get the shot, none of these outbreaks would be happening. I would be happy to hold down my trumper neighbor while he gets it on his porch, laughing at him the whole time.
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5. You're willing to assault someone? Sounds weird n/t
Shhhhh...don't make a spectacle of yourself!
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6. Adults are in power
If the trumpsters insist on behaving like children that won't eat their broccoli, who should be the adults in the room? They aren't only killing themselves
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4. this is one of those times
when public safety outweighs individual rights

no one has the right to make others sick
Another advocate for truth!
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8. There were vaccinated people making other vaccinated people sick.
Just because you are vaccinated, doesn't mean you can go to large parties and expect not to get infected.
Used to be that when you were vaccinated, that prevented sickness. See mumps, small pox, etc.
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10. During previous vaccine studies some people tested positive without symptoms.
This might be the same scenario on steroids. The disease isn’t breaking out, or is mild, but they carry lots of virus in the nose than can be spread.

To be perfectly honest, part of me thinks we (vaccinated) shouldn’t mask to protect the unvaccinated. They couldn’t give a damn about us, so why should we do so for them?
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sir pball
11. Honestly, your last paragraph is where I'm at right now.
We the vaxxed have a 90+% less chance of getting seriously ill, let alone dying, but we can catch and transmit the virus just as easily?
And another...
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Iheartsocialism
12. A few
Intrepid volunteers could show up at a few rep rallies and really turn the odds in our favor. I like your thinking
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sir pball
16. I'd do it.
Quite seriously, I'd accept the risk. Unfortunately I don't know anyone positive, nor are there any vulnerable events near me...

And no, I'm not a terribly nice person
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15. People
Have been charged with assault for spitting on cops while having the AIDS virus. I think there is precedent for doing the same for those who refuse to get vaccinated or wear a mask and spread covid

And then the wet blanket returns...

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18. Your posts make DU look stupid
You want to assault the nonvaxxed, you want to deliberately infect the nonvaxxed

...and you want the DU community to appear to support that
I dont think any one particular DUnizen makes them look stupid




« Last Edit: July 30, 2021, 08:03:24 PM by landofconfusion80 »
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20. absolute bullshit. the cave is unspeakably vile.

I don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

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Re: The canary in the coal mine
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2021, 08:24:23 PM »
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6. Adults are in power

You'd never know that watching Biden's public comments, or Harris' public comments, or Psaki's press conferences.


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Re: The canary in the coal mine
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2021, 08:29:28 PM »
Saw that it wasn't just random events. That town is an east coast version of San Francisco with their gay festivals. Who knew wagging your willy in close proximity to other Willies would spread disease?
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20. absolute bullshit. the cave is unspeakably vile.

I don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

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Re: The canary in the coal mine
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2021, 08:32:30 PM »
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215681144

I dont think any one particular DUnizen makes them look stupid

It is the entire population of DUmmyville that makes them look stupid.  Yes, occasionally ones stand out that separate the generally brain dead loons from the special cases who belong in rubber rooms.
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Re: The canary in the coal mine
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2021, 06:19:26 AM »
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Iheartsocialism
3. Forced vaccines now
If these idiot antivaxxers would be forced to get the shot, none of these outbreaks would be happening. I would be happy to hold down my trumper neighbor while he gets it on his porch, laughing at him the whole time.

Apparently this asshole wants more people to be sick because...

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74% in **fully vaccinated**

"But the vaccine lessens the severity of the illness!" they will say.

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*Viral loads similar* in fully vaccinated vs unvaccinated.



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Iheartsocialism
6. Adults are in power
If the trumpsters insist on behaving like children that won't eat their broccoli, who should be the adults in the room? They aren't only killing themselves

So, what you're saying is, the vaccine is worthless.

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4. this is one of those times
when public safety outweighs individual rights

no one has the right to make others sick

If your vaccine worked no one could make anyone sick.

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12. A few
Intrepid volunteers could show up at a few rep rallies and really turn the odds in our favor. I like your thinking

Biological warfare being a crime against humanity.

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Re: The canary in the coal mine
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2021, 07:36:54 AM »
It seems odd that DUpipo want Massachusetts to be a "mega outbreak", but looking at real data, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/massachusetts/ , it's not even close. They are experiencing a bump in new cases, currently small but rising. It's currently ~1/3 of MA's early spring bump, and ~1/8 of MA's winter surge. As to daily deaths, they are "up" into the single digits after a couple of weeks with some zero-death days - not proportional to the new cases bump. By way of contrast, during the winter surge daily deaths were 30X the current tiny bump, and after a fall, plateaued during the early part of the spring bump.

As canaries in the coal mine go, this one escaped its cage before it could be brought into the coal mine.

It's kind of weird, too, to see anti-Covid-vaxxers (elsewhere) and DU-fear-nurturers orgasming over the same incident.

Just as a taunt to any onlurking DUmmies, in about 35 minutes I'll be heading up to San Leandro to participate in my first in-person running event since February 2020. It'll probably be between 1000 and 2000 runners (and walkers like me), masks not required. I'll be walking the 5K, on a course to goes along the edge of SF Bay, including doing the perimeter of a small peninsula (the 10K and half marathon courses don't go out on that peninsula - BTDTGTTSs). Being both recovered and vaxxed, there is probably greater risk that I'll fall into SF Bay than of Covid from the couple hundred runners I'll be greeting or who'll be passing me on the course.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: The canary in the coal mine
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2021, 10:15:55 AM »
It seems odd that DUpipo want Massachusetts to be a "mega outbreak", but looking at real data, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/massachusetts/ , it's not even close. They are experiencing a bump in new cases, currently small but rising. It's currently ~1/3 of MA's early spring bump, and ~1/8 of MA's winter surge. As to daily deaths, they are "up" into the single digits after a couple of weeks with some zero-death days - not proportional to the new cases bump. By way of contrast, during the winter surge daily deaths were 30X the current tiny bump, and after a fall, plateaued during the early part of the spring bump.

As canaries in the coal mine go, this one escaped its cage before it could be brought into the coal mine.

It's kind of weird, too, to see anti-Covid-vaxxers (elsewhere) and DU-fear-nurturers orgasming over the same incident.

Just as a taunt to any onlurking DUmmies, in about 35 minutes I'll be heading up to San Leandro to participate in my first in-person running event since February 2020. It'll probably be between 1000 and 2000 runners (and walkers like me), masks not required. I'll be walking the 5K, on a course to goes along the edge of SF Bay, including doing the perimeter of a small peninsula (the 10K and half marathon courses don't go out on that peninsula - BTDTGTTSs). Being both recovered and vaxxed, there is probably greater risk that I'll fall into SF Bay than of Covid from the couple hundred runners I'll be greeting or who'll be passing me on the course.

Good luck on your run Pete. I'm seeing KISS at the Shoreline Amphetheater in Mt. View on September 10th ($40 lawn seats, couldn't pass that up  :rocker:). Funny thing was I saw KISS on March 6th 2020 in Oakland just before the state went into lockdown. Was I worried about the virus then? No. Will I be worried about the virus on September 10th? Again no. If masks are optional will I wear one on September 10th? No, unless I'm with friends that are worried about the bug. Then I'll do it out of courtesy for my friends. Otherwise no mask for me if it's optional.
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Re: The canary in the coal mine
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2021, 01:58:53 PM »
My finish time was 52-53 minutes, I think. Nothing fantabulous, except it's as good or better than I've done in a couple years. I'd guesstimate less than 5% of runners and family/friends wore masks, many probably healthcare workers or (pre-)school teachers.

ETA, 52:38 chip time, a faster than 3.5 mph and 17 minute mile pace.
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: The canary in the coal mine
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2021, 04:01:06 PM »
The best part of that whole thread is watching kentuck, the bluegrass primitive, questioning the gestapo type suggestions from the iheartsocialism primitive when kentuck has repeatedly made similar, if not even more, authoritarian demands for years now.

Hey kentuck, the iheartsocialism primitive IS you. You ARE them. There’s not a cat whiskers difference between either of you.

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Re: The canary in the coal mine
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2021, 08:45:02 PM »
The best part of that whole thread is watching kentuck, the bluegrass primitive, questioning the gestapo type suggestions from the iheartsocialism primitive when kentuck has repeatedly made similar, if not even more, authoritarian demands for years now.

Hey kentuck, the iheartsocialism primitive IS you. You ARE them. There’s not a cat whiskers difference between either of you.

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Guess the Iheartsocialism primitive was too much for the dump, bless its poor authoritarian soul
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20. absolute bullshit. the cave is unspeakably vile.

I don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

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Re: The canary in the coal mine
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2021, 08:43:51 AM »
The best part of that whole thread is watching kentuck, the bluegrass primitive, questioning the gestapo type suggestions from the iheartsocialism primitive when kentuck has repeatedly made similar, if not even more, authoritarian demands for years now.

Hey kentuck, the iheartsocialism primitive IS you. You ARE them. There’s not a cat whiskers difference between either of you.


He is you and

You are he and

You are all together!
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: The canary in the coal mine
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2021, 10:19:27 PM »
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6. Adults are in power

Are these the same "adults" that said they'd never take a vaccine developed during the Trump administration but, being the hypocrites they are, had no problem doing so when they were in office?
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Re: The canary in the coal mine
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2021, 08:34:12 AM »
Have we seen this asshole, Iheartsocialism, before?  Would love to know more about him, *Tess.*