BREAKING: Some people at an event caught the Cold

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TheProle (562 posts)

After Gridiron Dinner, a covid outbreak among Washington A-list guests
Source: Washington Post

It was supposed to be an evening of lighthearted political satire and bipartisan fellowship among an elite cadre of politicians, journalists and public officials, just as it has been for much of the past 137 years.

Instead, the annual Gridiron Dinner in Washington on Saturday appears to have been notable for a potential coronavirus outbreak among its A-list guests.

As of Wednesday morning, Reps. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) and Joaquin Castro (D-Tex.) and Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo had announced they had received positive results on coronavirus tests after attending the dinner at the downtown Renaissance Washington Hotel. On Wednesday afternoon, Attorney General Merrick Garland announced that he, too, had tested positive.

In addition, about a half-dozen journalists as well as members of the White House and National Security Council staffs said they tested positive after the event. Their names are being withheld because they have not announced their status publicly.

As the DUmmies like to say, Tots and Pears

How completely and utterly pussified has this country become when the newest Cold in town is headline news? If these people were Dems, as I am sure most were, they're probably quad-boosted and are probably beta testing the new FAUCI device
(Fraidycat Anally Used COVID Inoculator), so who cares. Go home and have the sniffles for a few days.

[FlaGator]

So much for being vaccinated.

[67 Rover]

So much for being vaccinated.

Damn them for not being double boosted and putting the world at risk!

[Texacon]

Probably all vaccinated, none wearing masks.  We know vaccinated can spread the virus.  They need to stop calling it a vaccine and start calling it a therapeutic.  TamaVid.

There, I'm a marketing genius.

KC

[FlaGator]

Probably all vaccinated, none wearing masks.  We know vaccinated can spread the virus.  They need to stop calling it a vaccine and start calling it a therapeutic.  TamaVid.

There, I'm a marketing genius.

KC

I prefer to think of it as a DNA-altering substance of unknown purpose.

[SVPete]

Have any DUmmies tried to claim the Rs assaulted those present by planting infested persons among the attendees?

As I posted previously on another thread, responding to a list of vaccines posted by another member, no vaccine provides perfect immunity:

Diphtheria vaccine breakthrough infection - This is a bacterial disease, and the vaccine targets the toxin, not the disease; "breakthrough infection" would be a misnomer; https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210308/Diphtheria-is-evolving-to-become-antibiotic-resistant-and-could-lead-to-vaccine-escape.aspx

Tetanus vaccine breakthrough infection - This is a bacterial disease, and the vaccine targets the toxin, not the disease; boostered every 10 years; https://www.immunize.org/catg.d/p4220.pdf

Smallpox vaccine breakthrough infection - Considered to be eradicated, which means there are no exposures that could cause a breakthrough

Typhoid vaccine breakthrough infection - Boostered every 2 or 5 years, so please define "breakthrough"; https://www.cdc.gov/typhoid-fever/typhoid-vaccination.html

Anthrax vaccine breakthrough infection - Boostered every year, so please define "breakthrough; https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/anthrax/public/index.html

Rota virus vaccine breakthrough infection - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33539399/

Measles vaccine breakthrough infection - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34508861/ , https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8239452/ , https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31039835/

Rubella vaccine breakthrough infection - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12897314/

Chickenpox vaccine breakthrough infection - https://www.cdc.gov/chickenpox/downloads/Breakthrough-Varicella-fact-sheet-508.pdf

Hepatitis B vaccine breakthrough infection - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20516566/ , https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20516566/

Meningitis vaccine breakthrough infection - Didn't find much info about this vaccine

Tuberculosis vaccine breakthrough infection - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32305522/ , other vaccines are in development, but not authorized or approved for use

Flu vaccine breakthrough infection - Because there are multiple variants, it is extremely difficult to discern whether the annual flu shots have breakthrough infections or simply didn't include one of the variants circulating in a given year; or maybe flu vaccines are all failures. your choice

Pneumonia vaccine breakthrough infection - https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/145/3/e20190836/76969/Pneumococcal-Conjugate-Vaccine-Breakthrough

Shingles vaccine breakthrough infection - https://www.medicinenet.com/can_you_get_shingles_after_being_vaccinated/article.htm , https://www.physiciansweekly.com/shingrix-vaccine-makes-shingles/

Mumps vaccine breakthrough infection - https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/majority-mumps-cases-are-vaccinated-cdc-finds-rcna6482

The term "breakthrough infection" was in use a decade or more before Covid came, and thus could not have been coined as a "cover-up" of Covid vaccine "failure", a claim some anti-Covid-vaxxers have made.

As for the claim I've seen bandied about that a vaccine, by definition, uses a dead/weakened/inactivated version of the target virus, several of the vaccines listed above (and pertussis, which is not on the list) are for bacterial diseases, i.e. cannot use a dead/weakened/inactivated virus. Yet another anti-Covid-vaxxer claim that sounds so scientific, but can't withstand minimal fact-checking.

1. There are three Covid vaccines in use in the US, base on two different technologies. Not a single "substance".

2. None of the Covid vaccines change recipients' DNA. That is not how they work. You may "prefer to think of" Covid vaccines that way, but but none of the Covid vaccines do that.

[DefiantSix]

I prefer to think of it as a DNA-altering substance of unknown purpose.

'Zackly... 

[Texacon]

SVP, I would be very interested to know what the % of 'breakthrough' infections of the other vaccines are to the ones we have for the 'Rona'.

There sure does seem to be a LOT of folks who are vaccinated for the 'Rona' still getting infected with the 'Rona'. 

IF there is a correlation to the other vaccines allowing that much breakthrough infection and the 'Rona' vaccines allowing the same, then I could agree to it being called a vaccine.  From everything I've read and watched, these vaccines are nothing more than therapeutics.  They are the aspirin of their time.

KC

[Texacon]

https://www.newsweek.com/over-one-third-vaccinated-americans-became-infected-covid-after-jab-poll-1668027

Over One-Third Of Vaccinated Americans Became Infected With COVID After The Jab: Poll

BY NATALIE COLAROSSI ON 1/11/22 AT 10:48 AM EST

Over one-third of Americans vaccinated against COVID-19 now say they became infected with the virus after being fully inoculated, signifying how the highly contagious Omicron variant has driven an increase in breakthrough cases.

In a new poll released by Axios/Ispos on Tuesday, 36 percent of respondents said they either recently tested positive or believe they had COVID after being fully vaccinated. That compares to just 22 percent of respondents in mid-December, and only six percent from last summer, according to the poll.

36% from the latest article I could find without doing too much looking.  That seems awfully high to me for any vaccine.  Maybe I'm wrong.

KC

[SVPete]

A poll? How not impressive.

"... or believe they had COVID ..."?  How not impressive.

Also, was I not supposed to know that preventing infection was NOT the only purpose of the Covid vaccines? Was I not supposed to know that reduction in seriousness of cases was also a measured goal in the testing of the three Covid vaccines authorized for use in the US. China's current mess evidences that Omicron is still seriously deadly, and that where China's traditional technology inactivated virus has allowed significant degrees of serious illness and deaths, while the mRNA and viral vector vaccines being used in the US have significantly reduced serious illness and deaths (compare the cases-deaths ratio of winter 2020-21 to that of winter 2021-22 here https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ ).

I know many decent intelligent people want to believe that Covid vaccines are utterly ineffective, deadly, include microchips, are contaminated with hydras, etc., etc., etc., but facts contradict those claims and conspiracy theories (Microchips?! Really?!!! ). And, sadly, some of those people refuse to conceive of someone disagreeing with them without financial ties to Big Bogey-Pharma, including at least one Cave member (who hasn't been "active" for a couple of months).

[Texacon]

A poll? How not impressive.

"... or believe they had COVID ..."?  How not impressive.


I know many decent intelligent people want to believe that Covid vaccines are utterly ineffective, deadly, include microchips, are contaminated with hydras, etc., etc., etc., but facts contradict those claims and conspiracy theories (Microchips?! Really?!!! ). And, sadly, some of those people refuse to conceive of someone disagreeing with them without financial ties to Big Bogey-Pharma, including at least one Cave member (who hasn't been "active" for a couple of months).

First, I'm simply asking questions.  I said above in the reading I've done and the shows I've watched, both right and left, I am not getting the impression that these vaccines are anywhere close to being effective as far as a vaccine is concerned.  The FDA even changed the definition to fit the vaccines we are using.

Second, while I may or may not be somewhat intelligent, I don't fall off into conspiracy holes, but I will say that over the last couple of years the only difference between a lot of conspiracy theories and facts has been about 6 months.  We HAVE been lied to on numerous occassions and it makes a lot of the other stuff very suspect.

My question remains; What is the percentage of efficacy in stopping a disease from vaccine to vaccine.  IF the vaccines we're using now for the 'Rona' are anywhere near the efficacy of the above mentioned vaccines, I will be absolutely shocked.

KC

[SVPete]

The FDA even changed the definition to fit the vaccines we are using.

Got a link for that claim? Preferably not from RFK Jr. or snake-oil salesman Joseph Mercola (yes, I do have links that prove he is)?

Second, while I may or may not be somewhat intelligent, I don't fall off into conspiracy holes, but I will say that over the last couple of years the only difference between a lot of conspiracy theories and facts has been about 6 months.

Microchips have been found in The Vaccine? Where? Link please.

Hydras have been found in The Vaccine? Where? Link please, and not from that fruitcake who claimed to be a Pfizer fill-and-finish facility QA inspector ... the facility at which she worked didn't handle vaccines, I already researched her BS claim.

HIV viruses have been found in The Vaccine? Where? Link please.

Regarding the claim linked in my signature, why am I still here? Why have I been able to do the events I've listed plus the workouts to support my capabilities? Why have I seen runners and walkers by the hundreds at those events, and not one dead body? How are many of the runners at those events doing one or two half or full marathons every weekend, and some doing 50-milers, 100Ks, and 100-milers?

Now, instead of taking each of those absurdities (I could have listed more, but I'm not on the computer where I have that longer list) as individual absurdities, consider the meaning that all of these and similar absurdities come from and circulate among a community of anti-Covid-vaxxers and anti-vaxxers. Taken collectively, the absurdities mean there is a small number of individuals - e.g. RFK Jr. and Joseph Mercola and Judy Mikovits - who readily concoct and spread wild lies and fantasies to a community who trust them because they want to believe what they claim.