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Biden administration tells federal agencies they should not require employees to be vaccinated

The Biden administration has told federal agencies that they generally should not require their employees to be vaccinated against the coronavirus to work on-site in federal buildings or to disclose whether they are vaccinated.

Employees who disclose they are unvaccinated or refuse to answer a voluntary question about vaccination status should be subject to safety requirements such as mask-wearing and social distancing, new guidance says.

“The Administration strongly encourages all Americans, including Federal employees and contractors, to be vaccinated,” says a Tuesday posting by an interagency task force overseeing pandemic-related policies for the federal workplace. However, “at present, COVID-19 vaccination should generally not be a pre-condition” for federal employees or contractors to work in person, it states, while not specifying possible exceptions.

The new federal workforce guidance — the first government-wide statement of policy on these issues — did not state why the administration has determined that it should not require vaccination.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-administration-tells-federal-agencies-they-should-not-require-employees-to-be-vaccinated-to-work-on-site/ar-AAKSPXA?ocid=msedgdhp
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Does this mean we can ask if EEs have AIDS and if so Isolate them?
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Wow! Just 21 responses, almost all very brief or an emoji. Imagine the DUmmie-Howling had Trump issued such a policy pronouncement.

It's not that hard, but it sounds like LIEden got it pretty much right, depending on what the exceptions are. IMO, at most the exceptions should be people who are in constant, very frequent, or prolonged contact with hospital or SNF/ALF type facilities. And even in such situations there could be alternatives, though a "moon suit", helmet with respirator, or properly fitted and used N95 mask (all of which I saw used by different people when I was in the hospital with Covid) would be extremely uncomfortable and somewhat limiting.
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My guess is that they understand that to mandate vaccination at this time they accept liability for any potential down road side affects that could develop.

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My guess is that they understand that to mandate vaccination at this time they accept liability for any potential down road side affects that could develop.

Which is why I refuse to take this experimental vaccine since no one can tell me what the side effects will be in 5, 10 or 15 years.
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Does this mean we can ask if EEs have AIDS and if so Isolate them?
I have to ask, what's an EE?

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Which is why I refuse to take this experimental vaccine since no one can tell me what the side effects will be in 5, 10 or 15 years.

5, 10 or 15 years? Heck, they don't know the side effects after one year. The vaccines haven't even been approved by The FDA after full clinical trials.

Those pimping the vaccines ignore the difference and pretend that an Emergency Use Authorization is equivalent to full FDA approval. It isn't.

Like you, I have no interest in being a lab rat for a vaccine that is still essentially an experimental drug.

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5, 10 or 15 years? Heck, they don't know the side effects after one year. The vaccines haven't even been approved by The FDA after full clinical trials.

Those pimping the vaccines ignore the difference and pretend that an Emergency Use Authorization is equivalent to full FDA approval. It isn't.

Like you, I have no interest in being a lab rat for a vaccine that is still essentially an experimental drug.

 ::) The Moderna vaccine began Phase 1 tests March 16, 2020. Phase 2 was begun May 29, 2020. Both are more than a year ago.

 ::) BioNtech began Phase 1/2 tests April 29, 2020, also over a year ago.

 ::) Phase 1/2 tests of Johnson & Johnson's vaccine began June 10, 2020, a year ago.

 ::) If you count me as one "pimping" the vaccines, I do know the difference between Emergency Use Authorization and a Biologics License, and have never pretended that an EUA is "equivalent" to a Biologics License.

 ::) Since how long ago the vaccines authorized for use in the US started testing appears to be news, is it also news that both Pfizer and Moderna have begun the processes that will soon result in receiving Biologics Licenses, i.e. full FDA approval?
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I have to ask, what's an EE?

Sorry.  Human resources spaek for "employee."
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::) The Moderna vaccine began Phase 1 tests March 16, 2020. Phase 2 was begun May 29, 2020. Both are more than a year ago.

 ::) BioNtech began Phase 1/2 tests April 29, 2020, also over a year ago.

 ::) Phase 1/2 tests of Johnson & Johnson's vaccine began June 10, 2020, a year ago.

 ::) If you count me as one "pimping" the vaccines, I do know the difference between Emergency Use Authorization and a Biologics License, and have never pretended that an EUA is "equivalent" to a Biologics License.

 ::) Since how long ago the vaccines authorized for use in the US started testing appears to be news, is it also news that both Pfizer and Moderna have begun the processes that will soon result in receiving Biologics Licenses, i.e. full FDA approval?


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I fall under the "F*ck it... it was available, and easy to get; AND since the Army injected me with so much shit throughout my career.... AND since I am a nurse and teach nursing I anticipated the clinical sites to require the vaccine sooner rather than later.... " I said why not, shrugged my shoulder and took it. Zero side effects, not even the Vax Flu that the DUmmies seem to constantly complain about.

I am not particularly worried about side effects.... but if they come, they are the result of my decision to get the vax; nothing else really


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LOL thanks, I would've never figured that one out.

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Sorry.  Human resources spaek for "employee."

My guess, being in tech, was Electrical Engineer, but I didn't think that correct.
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Obviously, too young and pretty to be a DUmmie.
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