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If we lose control of Congress in these upcoming midterms, do not assume that there will be a "next election" that means anything.

I think it likely that a Trump Party Congress would impeach, convict and remove President Biden and possibly also Vice President Harris. The 2024 "election" would be decided by Congress as they simply would refuse to confirm ANY Democrat.

That the Trumpies are intent on stealing the midterms is no longer really a subject of debate.

GOP state legislators are working tirelessly across the nation to make it as difficult as possible for people who might "vote wrong" to cast their ballots. Taking their cue from their Dear Leader, they no longer hesitate to "say the quiet part out loud" and have adopted shameless arrogance as "the Republican way". They are ready and willing to do ANYTHING---no exceptions or restrictions--- to win control of the Congress, the next and last election and the nation's future.

Those citizens who are able to stay registered or get re-registered and make their way to the long lines at the new distant polling places chosen by Trump loyalists may find themselves confronted by angry partisan Trumpist "poll watchers". And, you know what? They've got to do that and we've got to help them.

As long as we are healthy, we will be voting early in Illinois so we will be free to canvass again in Ohio or Wisconsin or WHEREVER we can help get our voters out on election day. We will be contributing financially to help fund a legal strike force capable of responding to the Trump cults theft attempts. If we lose the Congress in 2022, I don't want it to be because I was sitting on my ass whining about how "mean" those damn Trumpies are. Stuff needs doing.

Again---don't assume there'll be another election if we lose this one. All our chips are on the table.

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Pobeka (3,481 posts)

1. The 67 votes in the Senate hurdle won't let them remove Biden or Harris.

But you're right, they'll impeach multiple times just for the sound bytes.

On edit: Yes, with minority votes suppressed in 2024, I see no way to retain a DEM in the WH, we got there in 2020 by margins that were too narrow to lose any votes to suppression.

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Star Member Silent3 (10,924 posts)

26. They can also refuse to confirm the 2024 election results

...if Biden wins, and a simple majority is required for the vote to be confirmed, not 2/3 against the confirmation.

That should be, as it always has been, simply a ceremonial act, but if a Republican majority simply refuses to confirm a Democratic presidential victory, we'd be in uncharted territory, with a 6-3 Republican SCOTUS deciding the outcome.

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4. K&R, there are still people who think you're being hyperbolic despite the evidence that is in front

... of the world regarding the intentions of the GQP and voting access.7

People think the dems can just brute force our way into winning elections after GQP reduces access to voting when that hasn't worked anywhere in the world consistently after a reduction to voting access.

We need to push our representative to turn up the rhetoric and themes against voter suppression and put this a top of the list of threats to America along with 1/6 terrorist.

Where is Bloomberg or the other wealthy dem candidates when it comes to our democracy being threatened ?!!?

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Star Member Crunchy Frog (23,970 posts)

7. The DOJ and the House may want to consider getting their acts together.

(There need to be Bengazi type hearings in the House, and SOON.)

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Star Member gab13by13 (3,535 posts)

19. I'm still waiting for the DOJ to show up in Arizona where federal election laws are being violated.

This thread tells it like it is, people don't realize how serious this shit is. Schumer should be bringing up bills every day, every week to break the filibuster. He should be bringing up S1 every day.

What makes people think that the new GQP will adhere to the Constitution for impeaching Biden and Harris? They don't play the same game that Democrats play.

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Star Member Atticus (10,929 posts)

23. As Max Boot just said on CNN as I type this at 9:09 p.m. in Illinois, it is "very possible"

that we are witnessing the death of American democracy.

Yes, what I said is alarming and extreme and it "has never happened before", but the assumption that "it will all work out" because "it always has" is what Germans and Czechs and Russians said before autocratic regimes replaced their governments. "On Tyranny" by Timothy Snyder details this.

"You don't know, when you make love for the last time, that you're making love for the last time. Voting is like that."

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Re: If we lose control of Congress in these upcoming midterms, ...
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2021, 09:09:35 AM »
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If we lose control of Congress in these upcoming midterms, do not assume that there will be a "next election" that means anything.

I think it likely that a Trump Party Congress would impeach, convict and remove President Biden and possibly also Vice President Harris. The 2024 "election" would be decided by Congress as they simply would refuse to confirm ANY Democrat.

We should be so lucky, that would be a dream come true!!! :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Using the left's strategy against them! :thatsright: :thatsright:
Biden sucks and harris swallows.

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Re: If we lose control of Congress in these upcoming midterms, ...
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2021, 09:39:07 AM »
No, Rs are not as partisanly unprincipled and hatred-driven as Pelosiroo and Schifftyroo.
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Re: If we lose control of Congress in these upcoming midterms, ...
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Star Member Atticus (10,929 posts)
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If we lose control of Congress in these upcoming midterms, do not assume that there will be a "next election" that means anything.

I think it likely that a Trump Party Congress would impeach, convict and remove President Biden and possibly also Vice President Harris.

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Pobeka (3,481 posts)

1. The 67 votes in the Senate hurdle won't let them remove Biden or Harris.

But you're right, they'll impeach multiple times just for the sound bytes.

and just like that, the DUmmies are against using impeachment as a political weapon against the majority party's opposition....
Biden is an illegitimate President.  Change my mind.

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Re: If we lose control of Congress in these upcoming midterms, ...
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2021, 10:45:56 AM »
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1. The 67 votes in the Senate hurdle won't let them remove Biden or Harris.

But you're right, they'll impeach multiple times just for the sound bytes.
DU guilt by projection, exhibit 125864398974.
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Re: If we lose control of Congress in these upcoming midterms, ...
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2021, 10:58:59 AM »
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1. The 67 votes in the Senate hurdle won't let them remove Biden or Harris.

But you're right, they'll impeach multiple times just for the sound bytes.

Nope, Congressional Rs are smarter than Pelosiroo and Schifftyroo. Not that they are an especially high standard of intelligence.
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Re: If we lose control of Congress in these upcoming midterms, ...
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2021, 11:03:49 AM »
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20. absolute bullshit. the cave is unspeakably vile.

I don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

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Re: If we lose control of Congress in these upcoming midterms, ...
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2021, 11:34:25 AM »
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If they can't pass HR1/S1, they are dead meat in '22.  Even if they pass it they are 50/50 to lose Congress.  There's gonna be more poll watchers and lawsuits than Steinmeyer has beans.

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Re: If we lose control of Congress in these upcoming midterms, ...
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2021, 11:50:49 AM »
If they can't pass HR1/S1, they are dead meat in '22.  Even if they pass it they are 50/50 to lose Congress.  There's gonna be more poll watchers and lawsuits than Steinmeyer has beans.
Wouldn't it end up in the Supreme Court, since it involves a Constitutional question? If it does, I would assume that it wouldn't be decided, one way or the other, before the mid-terms.

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Re: If we lose control of Congress in these upcoming midterms, ...
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2021, 05:05:35 PM »
Wouldn't it end up in the Supreme Court, since it involves a Constitutional question? If it does, I would assume that it wouldn't be decided, one way or the other, before the mid-terms.

It SHOULD end up in the supreme court IF John Roberts doesn't do another "duck and cover" under his desk when the mob starts screaming.