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The Republican plot to steal the 2024 election
« on: June 01, 2021, 07:40:06 PM »
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Max Boot:

The Republican plot to steal the 2024 election


A nightmare scenario is becoming more likely: A GOP-led Congress overriding the 2024 election results.
washingtonpost.com
11:28 AM · Jun 1, 2021


Republicans have spent nearly seven months making bogus charges of fraud in the 2020 election under the banner of “stop the steal.” Now they have segued into a “start the steal” offensive to ensure that they will win the 2022 and 2024 elections — even if most voters once again support the Democratic Party.

The Brennan Center for Justice reports that “between January 1 and May 14, 2021, at least 14 states enacted 22 new laws that restrict access to the vote” and “at least 61 bills with restrictive provisions are moving through 18 state legislatures.” Those bills are designed not to avert nonexistent voter fraud but to avert another election defeat for Republicans — and they are drawing perilously close to that goal.

In Georgia, for example, a new law stipulates that mobile voting stations “shall only be used in emergencies declared by the Governor,” who is a Republican. That will put out of business two “mobile voting units” — a.k.a. buses — that collected 11,200 ballots in Atlanta’s Fulton County in November. Also, under the new law, provisional ballots will no longer be accepted from voters who go to the wrong polling place; 11,120 provisional ballots were counted in November. “Combined,” writes my Post colleague David Weigel, “the ballots cast by both methods are nearly double the margin by which [Joe] Biden won Georgia.”

A new election law in Texas, which has been temporarily blocked by a walkout of Democrats from the state House, would outlaw many of the methods used to increase minority turnout, such as drive-through voting and early voting before 1 p.m. on Sundays (crimping “souls to the polls” events after church services). But the most alarming element of the bill is that it makes it easier to overturn election results even if there is no evidence that fraud affected the outcome.

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Star Member Bayard (11,909 posts)

2. Wouldn't that be unconstitutional?

States run their election process. They may enact laws to regulate it.

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eallen (2,911 posts)

4. Unfortunately, the Constitution gives the states wide latitude in selecting electors.

It doesn't even require a popular election.

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Star Member SergeStorms (11,235 posts)

6. And some states...want to make it legal for state legislators to overrule the will of the people along with the electors. President by fiat.  THAT IS NOT DEMOCRACY!

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Star Member PortTack (19,503 posts)

13. Electors are not chosen by the states, they are chosen by each party

In the 18 states currently without faithless elector laws, the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact would operate in a manner identical to the system that they have been using for over 200 years. In these states (which currently use the state-by-state winner-take-all method of awarding electoral votes), the presidential electors are chosen by the political party whose presidential candidate receives the most popular votes inside the state.

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5. well shit , with any luck dumpy & moscow mitch will be in bracelets!

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Star Member ancianita (23,064 posts)

12. More down in the article about how their own 'steal' gets done...

they will first make their impact felt in 2022.


Off-year elections are always tough for the party in power. This one will be tougher still because of Republican-driven voter suppression, reapportionment and gerrymandering. Dave Wasserman of the Cook Political Report writes that Republicans will have full authority to redraw 187 congressional districts, while Democrats will control just 75. He estimates that redistricting in just four states — Texas, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina — could be enough to deliver the House to Republican control.


Looks like if they have "full authority" to redraw double the number of districts that we have, they actually don't have to 'steal.' Just suppress.

What's worse is at the federal level.

This brings us to a nightmare scenario: a Republican-controlled Congress overturning the 2024 presidential election results to install Trump or a Trump mini-me in the White House. In January, 139 House Republicans and eight Senate Republicans voted not to certify electoral college results in at least one state. Since then, the most prominent GOP opponent of the “big lie," Rep. Liz Cheney (Wyo.), has been purged from the House leadership. Willingness to lie about election fraud has become a litmus test for Republicans, with the implicit threat of mob violence if they don’t go along. Republicans are so scared of Trump and his fanatical followers that most of them just voted against a bipartisan investigation of the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

Many congressional Republicans will refuse to certify a 2024 Democratic win in swing states. If Republicans control Congress, they could deny the Democrats an electoral college majority and throw the election to the House — where each state delegation, regardless of population, would cast one ballot. Given that Republicans already control a majority of state delegations, they could override the election outcome. If that happens, it would spell the end of American democracy.

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16. And then, when we hit the streets, we get to be arrested for insurrection.

Doesn't matter if we don't storm the Capitol. Doesn't matter if we occupy the streets.

The Republicans will come after us full-bore if the Democrats in the Senate don't get their act together and change the filibuster rule to put a stop to voter suppression laws AND if the Democratic-controlled Congress or the DOJ doesn't prosecute the real seditionists. This is a 10-alarm fire in the making, and just thinking that if we get out the vote in '22 or '24 or elect more senators to make Manchin and Sinema irrelevant is not going to save this country. The Senate Democrats — not us — need to do the job we elected them to do.

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Star Member Mr. Ected (7,285 posts)

20. We've got ONE shot at reclaiming our democracy, a fragile and tenuous one at that

The voters foresaw this and came out in droves to push the Democrats over the finish line. Dems took the House, the Senate and the White House. Dems have a mandate to turn back the fascist cancer devouring us from within.

Now is not the time to be politically calculating, ingratiating or bilateral. Now is the time to render a death blow.

Now.

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Star Member roamer65 (26,697 posts)

22. We had better start thinking about getting secession referenda queued up if they steal 2022.

2024 and 2026 will be the years to vote on them, if we aren’t already in a civil war.

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Re: The Republican plot to steal the 2024 election
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2021, 08:08:38 PM »
Wow! The 2024 election is almost 3 1/2 years away and DUmmies are already deep in paranoid CT-Land?

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Re: The Republican plot to steal the 2024 election
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2021, 09:15:50 PM »
According to the Bible, "know" means "yes."

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Re: The Republican plot to steal the 2024 election
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2021, 10:24:08 PM »
Max Boot is an immature wack-job.

As we’ve seen before, the primitives latch on to those they’ve hated in the past if those individuals say things they like. Authoritarianism is the god of the left, and this fantasy by Boot feeds their paranoia.

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Re: The Republican plot to steal the 2024 election
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2021, 09:01:49 AM »
Once again, the propaganda at work.  "Bogus charges of voter fraud" "nonexistant voter fraud" used to convince people that the case on the 2020 election is closed even though it was never really opened. 
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Re: The Republican plot to steal the 2024 election
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2021, 09:35:49 AM »
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Max Boot:

The Republican plot to steal the 2024 election

by stealing the 2024 election you mean winning it legitimately with a clean and fair vote without ballot count misconduct or universal mail in ballots without signature verification?

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Re: The Republican plot to steal the 2024 election
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2021, 11:29:26 AM »
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16. And then, when we hit the streets, we get to be arrested for insurrection.

Doesn't matter if we don't storm the Capitol. Doesn't matter if we occupy the streets.

The Republicans will come after us full-bore if the Democrats in the Senate don't get their act together and change the filibuster rule to put a stop to voter suppression laws AND if the Democratic-controlled Congress or the DOJ doesn't prosecute the real seditionists. This is a 10-alarm fire in the making,

Sounds serious. Would this DUmmie be OK if the Republicans changed the filibuster rule? If not why not, isn't that what you want? :o
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Re: The Republican plot to steal the 2024 election
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2021, 06:03:10 AM »
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4. Unfortunately, the Constitution gives the states wide latitude in selecting electors.

It doesn't even require a popular election.

However, it does not give states the right to violate their own election laws like many Democrat controlled states did to help Joe Xiden steal the election.

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Re: The Republican plot to steal the 2024 election
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2021, 09:25:01 AM »
Is there a plot afoot?

Please God, please, let it be so.
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Re: The Republican plot to steal the 2024 election
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2021, 02:30:33 PM »
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16. And then, when we hit the streets, we get to be arrested for insurrection.

Doesn't matter if we don't storm the Capitol. Doesn't matter if we occupy the streets.

The Republicans will come after us full-bore if the Democrats in the Senate don't get their act together and change the filibuster rule to put a stop to voter suppression laws AND if the Democratic-controlled Congress or the DOJ doesn't prosecute the real seditionists. This is a 10-alarm fire in the making, and just thinking that if we get out the vote in '22 or '24 or elect more senators to make Manchin and Sinema irrelevant is not going to save this country. The Senate Democrats — not us — need to do the job we elected them to do.

The Senate can arrest protestors? Since when?