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Interests => Around the House & In the Garage => Topic started by: CG6468 on December 21, 2011, 10:45:49 AM
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The damned mole(s) is/are tearing the hell out one section of our yard. I've tried the guillotine, smoke bombs, and driving over the tunnels with the tractor. WHAM, BAM - they're back within a few hours.
I just pumped 30 .22LRs into the tunnels that looked like they were the traveling tunnels and not the feeding tunnels. Probably won't work, either.
And my damned rifle jammed, which took another 15 minutes to unjam. Lotsa fun in the cold and drizzle today................. :whatever:
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I've got the little bastards too. My back yard not only has the little molehills (no tunnels, because of the high water levels right now), but the holes are humungous. And there's a ton of 'em.
To add insult to injury, the dogs dig for 'em. F'n digging dogs -- I hate that shit. :censored: :banghead:
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I've got the little bastards too. My back yard not only has the little molehills (no tunnels, because of the high water levels right now), but the holes are humungous. And there's a ton of 'em.
To add insult to injury, the dogs dig for 'em. F'n digging dogs -- I hate that shit. :censored: :banghead:
I think I mentioned previously that I got one of the bastards a few years ago with the .22, and then my wife asked if I buried it! :rofl:
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3 cats = no moles
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The damned mole(s) is/are tearing the hell out one section of our yard. I've tried the guillotine, smoke bombs, and driving over the tunnels with the tractor. WHAM, BAM - they're back within a few hours.
I just pumped 30 .22LRs into the tunnels that looked like they were the traveling tunnels and not the feeding tunnels. Probably won't work, either.
And my damned rifle jammed, which took another 15 minutes to unjam. Lotsa fun in the cold and drizzle today................. :whatever:
If all else fails, a strategically-placed stick of dynamite usually works......... :lmao:
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i thought this was going to be a funny DUmpster thread. :panic:
but your dealing with actual moles :rofl:
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Have you tried flooding them out ?
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Tent the ground, nuke with Phostoxin or Methyl Bromide. Works like a champ. Trust me, I know. :-)
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Several places carry a small metal windwill that has a bb in the arm. The vibration annoys the moles and they move on. I got ours at Harbor Freight and Tool.
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Several places carry a small metal windwill that has a bb in the arm. The vibration annoys the moles and they move on. I got ours at Harbor Freight and Tool.
Yeah, I found it here:
http://www.harborfreight.com/windmill-mole-chaser-47987.html
There's a store in my area. Will stop in and give this a go. Price is right.
Wineslob, I don't want to use chemicals. I've got dogs in the back yard and they eat everything that isn't nailed down, including voles and whatever critter they can catch. :whatever:
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Wineslob, I don't want to use chemicals. I've got dogs in the back yard and they eat everything that isn't nailed down, including voles and whatever critter they can catch. :whatever:
Might be the same thing here, but I don't want to test our chocolate lab. I don't trust him.
Cats are out of the question; my wife and one of the grandkids are highly allergic to cats.
And now I have to buy another .22. :o My 57-year old rifle is trashed. They just don't make things like they used to. :rotf: It'd cost more to fix it than to buy a replacement.
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CG, are you actually hunting these moles? Wait till you see some movement underground, then blast away with the .22?
No way do I have the kind of time to do something like that.
If that ain't it, what are you doing with the .22?
I have a guy I've used in the past. He's got the spike-type of trap and he comes out and sets 'em up. More often than not, the trap snags the little bastard. (Gotta dig him up with a screwdriver. Ugly little varmints.) But at $20 a pop, there might be a cheaper option. This windmill thing sounds like it might work. Chemicals ain't a good idea either, because of the dogs.
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We have a mole plague, too. This year seems particularly bad. Can't use poisons 'cause of the pups, so might try the Mole Chaser Windmill.
You can get it through Amazon, too....
http://www.amazon.com/Chaser-Windmill-Covers-100ft-Diameter/dp/B0000AXDTQ
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We have a mole plague, too. This year seems particularly bad. Can't use poisons 'cause of the pups, so might try the Mole Chaser Windmill.
You can get it through Amazon, too....
http://www.amazon.com/Chaser-Windmill-Covers-100ft-Diameter/dp/B0000AXDTQ
A lot of negative comments about the bearings in the windmill - they don't seem to last long.
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CG, are you actually hunting these moles? Wait till you see some movement underground, then blast away with the .22?
No way do I have the kind of time to do something like that.
If that ain't it, what are you doing with the .22?
I have a guy I've used in the past. He's got the spike-type of trap and he comes out and sets 'em up. More often than not, the trap snags the little bastard. (Gotta dig him up with a screwdriver. Ugly little varmints.) But at $20 a pop, there might be a cheaper option. This windmill thing sounds like it might work. Chemicals ain't a good idea either, because of the dogs.
Yep, that's what I do with the .22. I just fold down the tailgate on the truck, get a lawn chair and a beverage or two, and the rifle, and wait until there's some movement. I've nailed 4 of them that way. I don't dig 'em up; they're already buried and I just leave 'em for Mother Nature to do its thing.
I have a guillotine trap and a spike trap; neither works for me. The lead poisoning seems to be the only way to control 'em. I talked to guy yesterday who's in the varmint control business. He's given up trying to control the little shits, since they have multiple partners just waiting to take their places.
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We've never had a mole problem, but did have a family of gophers living under our shed. They never caused a problem except for teasing the dog.
I remember catching a mole when I was a kid , their fur is soft, but their front paws are strong little suckers.
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We've never had a mole problem, but did have a family of gophers living under our shed. They never caused a problem except for teasing the dog.
I remember catching a mole when I was a kid , their fur is soft, but their front paws are strong little suckers.
I can share! I'll box up a couple of 'em and ship 'em off to ya! :lmao:
Here's (http://ruger.com/products/1022Carbine/models.html) what I'm picking up this afternoon.
I'll get an extra 10-round magazine, too, for my pocket. There's a 25 round magazine for it, too, but I'd probably never use it, and it would be clunky storing it.
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I can share! I'll box up a couple of 'em and ship 'em off to ya! :lmao:
I think our Beagle would sniff them out and dig them up. She loves to dig holes.
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I think our Beagle would sniff them out and dig them up. She loves to dig holes.
Probably. Barney, our basset who's passed away, would get 'em, too.
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A lot of negative comments about the bearings in the windmill - they don't seem to last long.
I printed the assembly/use instructions PDF (http://manuals.harborfreight.com/manuals/47000-47999/47987.pdf), and it looks pretty simple so I'll order one and see if I can do something about the bearing problem.
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I printed the assembly/use instructions PDF (http://manuals.harborfreight.com/manuals/47000-47999/47987.pdf), and it looks pretty simple so I'll order one and see if I can do something about the bearing problem.
I was thinking that the people who assembled their windmill and blew right past lubricating the bearings are probably the people who are bitching the loudest. The light grease they call for is not provided with the kit.
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There are some very effective, but nasty, mole/gopher traps. All depends on what you have the stomach for. Getting those nasty rodents off the trap is kind of nasty.
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/NTESearch?storeId=6970&N=0&Ntk=All&Ntt=victor+mole+trap&Nty=1&D=victor+mole+trap&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&cmnosearch=PPC&cm_ven=google_PPC&cm_cat=GroundsMaintain&cm_pla=generic&cm_ite=victor mole trap&mkwid=sa3gL2cp7&pcrid=11757838031&mt=b
I tolerated a lot more when the ability to support my children by successfully haying hundreds of acres depended on it. Now, I couldn't care less about some grass.
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The Victor Mole Trap Plunger, Model# 0645 is one I have that doesn't work.
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The Victor Mole Trap Plunger, Model# 0645 is one I have that doesn't work.
That's the one that looks very much like the one that the local guy has used - to somewhat good effect. IIRC, that trap (and similar traps set at the same time) got about 4 of the damned moles. I can't keep paying that guy $20 a pop, though.
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I used the "out of sight" model. It worked okay on gophers, too.
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It's time to gas 'em.
1. Uncover the tunnel, making sure there are holes going in both directions.
2. Pour some bleach into the opening.
3. Pour some ammonia into the opening. (Ammonia + bleach = chlorine gas.)
4. Quickly cover the hole.
5. Let the chlorine gas travel through the tunnel system to kill them.
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It's time to gas 'em.
1. Uncover the tunnel, making sure there are holes going in both directions.
2. Pour some bleach into the opening.
3. Pour some ammonia into the opening. (Ammonia + bleach = chlorine gas.)
4. Quickly cover the hole.
5. Let the chlorine gas travel through the tunnel system to kill them.
Waste of time to do it that way. Not enough vacuum to draw the gas down the tunnel before it is absorbed into the ground. If you're going to try it - combine your reagents in a disposable glass container as well. Otherwise the reagents will dilute into the soil.
Got any expired smoke flares lying about ? They're great for smoking out rabbits...
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Waste of time to do it that way. Not enough vacuum to draw the gas down the tunnel before it is absorbed into the ground. If you're going to try it - combine your reagents in a disposable glass container as well. Otherwise the reagents will dilute into the soil.
Got any expired smoke flares lying about ? They're great for smoking out rabbits...
I'm trying it, though. I can see the gas going into the tunnels.
No old flares, though...
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I didn't read any of the replys to this thread, I am posting because I (also?) have experience in this subject.
You have moles because you have grubs in your soil that your neighbors (?) do not.
I think you have 2 choices.
1. You can put stuff on your lawn to kill the grubs...I don't think you will notice a difference this spring/summer but it will be better next year.
2. You can do nothing and the damn moles will eat all of what they eat and move on to another persons lawn, yeah it sucks and it takes roughly a year but their food is gone and that would be a good time to put down grub killer (and keep the damn things in your neighbors yard).
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I'm gonna to with the grubicide. We're right next to a forest preserve, and that's when they come from.
I wish my newer John Deere garden tractor had a round exhaust outlet on it. This one's rectangular, and I have a round one from the older tractor. Just hooked it onto the exhaust pipe, and let the engine run for about 1/2 hour. It was a nice way to kill the chipmunks and moles. But nooooo, can't use it now. Maybe I'll have my local muffler shop fabricate a new one for me.
I also need to put down a load of black dirt in that area. Will the grub killer still work with a new layer of topsoil on it next spring?
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I think that would work, your still looking at about a year to get it right.
Mole food lives within the underground web of grass roots.
No grass roots = no moles.
Puting down grub killer is going to be a matter of being able to handle the expense.
Either way I don't think you will notice a difference until next year.
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I think that would work, your still looking at about a year to get it right.
Mole food lives within the underground web of grass roots.
No grass roots = no moles.
Puting down grub killer is going to be a matter of being able to handle the expense.
Either way I don't think you will notice a difference until next year.
I may not notice a complete change for 2 years. Of course, I'll keep trying the lead injection method, too.
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What ? No one is going to bring up Caddyshack ? Don't make me do it.
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What ? No one is going to bring up Caddyshack ? Don't make me do it.
Forget the moles, do as the people do that live in row houses in the city, put down 3 inches of concrete and paint it green.
Plant a row of flowers or even vegetables around the border, looks interesting. Got pets, just take a garden hose to wash out the leavings. So the kids may be 5-6 years old when they realise what grass really is, benefits are no flees on the pets or kids or ticks, no lawn mowing, or care except for the 18 inch gardens, no surprise snakes, and later a basketball hoop in the yard may pay for a kids education on a grant.
Blew my mind the one family that did this in the city, they left areas 3 feet in diameter free and planted fruit trees here and there and surrounded the trees with seating benches. The owners recouped their cost in 5-6 years as they had the perfect environmental area, no cost for a lawn mower, gas to run it, no worry about storing the mower in an expensive shed or worry of theft from the shed. No cost to seed or fertilize large areas of grass, just perhaps $50.00 every 2 years to spruce up the paint.
We have almost 3/4 acre of useless land that hubby has to spend allot of time mowing, had to buy a $4000 shed to store the ride on mower in, need to seed, fertilize and watch for moles and grubs each year------Phooey, Next home I buy will have all of the above and by golly a sweet life of spending valuable time doing anything but wasting it on a lawn we do not use. Then there is the weather when it is too dry and all that work on the grass turns it a shade of gray, What the heck is grass usefull for but for incects and creepy crawlies to breed in.???? :tongue: :tongue:
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Quote from vesta111
"What the heck is grass usefull for but for incects and creepy crawlies to breed in.???? "
This was covered thoroughly by Carl Spackler When Ty Webb shanked a ball into his hooch.
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Moles just want to eat! When I had them I put down the grub killer, cant remember what it was called or what brand, down in early spring, moles gone in a couple months. I did notice that the neighbors had mole mounds in their yards after that....