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What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« on: February 03, 2013, 07:08:15 PM »
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What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
 
Obviously not someone that has a lot of respect for life, so long as the person they are killing is the "enemy". The "enemy" is non-human. I'm sure there are many rationalizations before they cut the baby into pieces for easier removal? They are doing it for their country. They are only killing them before they kill you or your friends. That is the nature of "war". They will sleep like a baby after a good head shot. Have you ever wondered what it takes to be a sniper?

What kind of person does it take to kill their unborn child??

Obviously not someone that has a lot of respect for life, so long as the person they are killing is a "fetus". The "fetus" is non-human. I'm sure there are many rationalizations before the tools are inserted? They are doing it as an exercise of their freedom of choice. Their body, their choice.  That is the nature of "women's rights". They will sleep like a baby after all the parts are removed. Have you ever wondered what it takes to kill an unborn child?

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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2013, 07:25:47 PM »
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35. How many rich people's children become snipers?

 :mental:


A lot of America/servicemen hate in that thread.

How many rich kid snipers?  Who thinks of shit like that? 

That last one was a rhetorical question.
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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2013, 07:36:09 PM »
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What type of person does it take to be a sniper??

Well the first requirement dummie is that the person must be one hell of a good shot!   :fuelfire:
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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2013, 07:51:21 PM »
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35. How many rich people's children become snipers?

John Walton was a Green Beret medic who also dedicated much of his life to educating under-priviliged kids...the kind liberals claim to champion.

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In May 1968, we were young Green Berets who had just entered the secret war that was fought during the Vietnam War. We were stationed at FOB 1 in Phu Bai as members of small reconnaissance teams that ran top-secret missions across the fence into Laos, Cambodia and North Vietnam.

In August of '68, on one such mission, Walton's six-man recon team was surrounded and overrun by enemy soldiers. The attack was so fierce, the team leader called an airstrike on his team to break the enemy attack. That strike killed one team member, wounded the team leader and severed the right leg of the Green Beret radio operator Tom Cunningham Jr., of Durham, N.H. Another team member was wounded four times by AK-47 gunfire by an enemy soldier whom Walton killed.

A South Vietnamese helicopter pilot, Capt. Thinh Dinh, landed and picked up the five living members of the team while under heavy gunfire and barely extracted the team from its sure-death firefight with hundreds of enemy soldiers.

As '68 rolled along, our friendship grew as we became strong competitors in Scrabble, poker and impromptu football games.

He also shared his dreams: he said that if he lived, he would return to the U.S., buy a motorcycle and drive across country. Then, he'd get his pilot license, find a job and explore Mexico and Central and South America.

He pursued those dreams with vigor, eventually becoming a crop-duster for six months a year, while driving his VW bus south, into and through Mexico. During those years, I'd called his mom for John's latest phone number while my mom would get calls from John. By the '80s, as Wal-Mart became a force to be reckoned with, John went his own way, building several success businesses while living with his wife, Christy, on a trimaran before they bought a sailing captain's historic house in National City. They also had a beach in North County.

John Walton also cared about the environment. When we met for a recent breakfast in Oceanside, he drove a small Toyota hybrid.

And, he remembered his comrades from Vietnam. In 2003, he flew his executive jet to Fargo, N.D., to pick up now-Col. Thinh and family to fly them to a reunion in Las Vegas that honored the Vietnamese pilots who operated in the secret war.

http://www.macvsog.cc/john_walton.htm

In 2005 Walton was killed when his single-engine aircraft crashed just after take-off.

He was also the 11th richest man in the world -- an heir to the Sam Walton fortune.




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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2013, 07:58:35 PM »
So much soldier bashing at DU.  :mental:  :argh:
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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2013, 08:00:50 PM »
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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2013, 08:02:04 PM »
The Walton name wasn't well known back when John was in Viet Nam but the Waltons were already pretty rich by then.  I've heard that when asked what his family did he would say simply that his dad ran a dry goods store in Arkansas.  The people that knew him very well back then had no idea that he was wealthy until much later.  
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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2013, 08:04:18 PM »
What does it take to make a sniper?

Balls, nerve, and a constitution of steel.  IOW, everything you DON'T have, DUmmies.  And yeah, it takes a pretty smart guy to do all that, along with a hell of a lot of self-discipline.

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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2013, 08:05:39 PM »
What does it take to make a sniper?

Balls, nerve, and a constitution of steel.  IOW, everything you DON'T have, DUmmies.  And yeah, it takes a pretty smart guy to do all that, along with a hell of a lot of self-discipline.

Again, everything you're not, DUmmies.

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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2013, 08:19:15 PM »
If it was easy, DUmmies could do it.

Fortunately, it's not.

Now DD... even if it was easy the dummies still couldn't do it. I've seen way too many threads over at the dump where the dummies can't even handle a little everyday minor problem. 
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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2013, 08:20:57 PM »
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35. How many rich people's children become snipers?

Damned few, but then that's the same as their proportion in the armed forces in general (In the noncommissioned ranks anyway...there're always a few rich kids that are interested in the prestige and connections of being a ring-knocker, or want to be a zoomie/airedale for the glamor).
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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2013, 08:30:47 PM »
Damned few, but then that's the same as their proportion in the armed forces in general (In the noncommissioned ranks anyway...there're always a few rich kids that are interested in the prestige and connections of being a ring-knocker, or want to be a zoomie/airedale for the glamor).

There are also very few rich kids in the general population.  There are very few rich people. 

But they are still expected to pay for everything.
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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2013, 08:36:56 PM »
What does it take to make a sniper?

Balls, nerve, and a constitution of steel.  IOW, everything you DON'T have, DUmmies.  And yeah, it takes a pretty smart guy to do all that, along with a hell of a lot of self-discipline.

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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2013, 08:43:43 PM »
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What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
 
Obviously not someone that has a lot of respect for life, so long as the person they are killing is the "enemy". The "enemy" is non-human. I'm sure there are many rationalizations before they cut the baby into pieces for easier removal? They are doing it for their country. They are only killing them before they kill you or your friends. That is the nature of "war". They will sleep like a baby after a good head shot. Have you ever wondered what it takes to be a sniper?

The kind of guy that stays cool under pressure, that understands camoflouge, that can cooly and calmly call in enemy positions, somebody that's a dead shot but doesn't have a huge ego, the kind of guy that is always alert for threats to his mates.

In other words Kentuck, not the guys who sat around high school smoking pot, not the guy that gets rattled after a difficult customer, and not the guy that will leave his friends in the lurch because it's inconvenient to him. In other words, nothing like you Kentuck
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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2013, 11:29:22 PM »
There are also very few rich kids in the general population.  There are very few rich people. 

But they are still expected to pay for everything.

Seriously I've known a couple through the years, they mainly joined up for the same sort of reasons everyone else did...adventure, striking out on their own, sense of duty/paying their dues.  But they are a very small chip of the general population in the first place, and guys who go through sniper school are a tiny chip of the general military population, so they'd be rare as hen's teeth even with all other things being equal.
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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2013, 11:38:04 PM »
Well lets see here. I went to the Division Sniper school at Ft Campbell back in 83. Yeah it wasn't the Army official school but I did get to learn things from a former Specail Forces vet with two tours in Vietnam under his belt. Care to guess just what can a person learn from someone like that kentuck? I'd bet the powerball this week of 208 million that you wouldn't stand out in front of me even at 1000 meters to find out.

Back in those days it was easier to do the job. I was issued an XM-21 with a Redfield scope. Pretty simple compared to what they use now. All I had to do is range the target with the crosshairs and check the wind. Now days it's using mil-dots,guessing the wind,the curvature of the Earth and barometric pressure on top of all the rest I learned. In other words it takes an even smarter person to do the job then most as was said before and what usually kills most people going through the schools isn't how smart they are its having proper camouflage and technique
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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2013, 02:58:06 AM »
Now DD... even if it was easy the dummies still couldn't do it. I've seen way too many threads over at the dump where the dummies can't even handle a little everyday minor problem.  

True that!   :lmao:

Damned DUmmie couldn't handle stubbing their toe (tow for you DUmmie lurkers) without calling their congressperson and demanding something being done about it.

(OF course, this is after posting about it on DU.)   :lmao:

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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2013, 07:09:38 AM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022305800

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  This is my response to you you worthless oxygen thieving b@stards..

     What type of person does it take to be a sniper? Someone who works well under pressure. Someone who can be depended on to make the right call in a stressful situation. Someone who can look through a high powered scope and be willing to pull the trigger to knowingly kill a human being to save the lives of other people.

     Snipers rarely get called on to do their primary mission, which is to kill an enemy quickly, efficiently, and with maximum pyschological impact on a large group of enemies. All this does is save American lives.  you know, the ones you are SUPPOSED to be concerned about. but it also saves lives of the civilian population.

     Which do YOU think is a more effective way to deal with the a$$hole who doesn't give a f$%K about the local people and shoots at them indescriminately (e.g. TERRORISTS, those a$$holes you love so much)? Dropping a 2,000 lb. JDAM on his head? or Precision application of a 175-grain BTHP to either Hydraulically decompress or terminally incapacitate the aforementioned a$$sholes that you love so much?

     Snipers save lives, and are considered to be some of the best soldiers in any Infantry Battalion. Yes they have to be a good shot, but they also have to be able to find their target without being seen. And they have to know a $hit ton of math, what do you think external ballistics are? Oh wait, you don't know, don't care, but it must be EVIL. Because it is something pertaining to a weapon.

     I had the privilege of working at the 7th annual United States Army International Sniper Competition. All of the competitors, from the kid who had just graduated sniper school 2 months prior and was in the team that came in last place, to SFC Jason St. John and SFC Robby Johnson from the Army Marksmanship Unit who won the competition for the second year in a row, considered it to be some of the best training they had ever had.

http://www.army.mil/article/13661/marksmanship-unit-first-to-win-sniper-competition-two-years-in-row/

     Finally, I give the examples most in the SOF community and Airborne community consider to be what a soldier should be like: MSG Randy Schugart and SFC Gary Gordon. Both of these men were Snipers who were flying aerial cover in Mogadishu during operation Gothic Serpent, more commonly known to the public as the "Black Hawk Down"  mission. They asked, ASKED, THREE TIMES before they were given permission to insert to go after the crew of Super 64. They inserted into a city of THOUSANDS of people who wanted them dead, all to see if there was anyone alive, and to keep them alive until backup could make it. They did this willingly, to try and ensure that their comrades would survive. They now stand guard at the gates of heaven, welcoming their latest brother into the fold, SEAL Chris Kyle.

http://www.history.army.mil/html/moh/somalia.html

       Long and the short of it, what type of person does it take to be a sniper? Someone who is selfless, someone who does it KNOWING what they will be called on to do, and STILL does it.

Someone who is a better person than you will EVER BE...

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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2013, 07:15:37 AM »
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49. That and the fact they were defending their country from ruthless invaders, who too often

had a problem with telling local men with weapons shooting at them, from the local women and children just trying to live their lives and survive, as best they could in the middle of a war they did not start.
We seem to keep forgetting that all too often, we are the uninvited invaders into their country. So, yeah, they have a little added incentive to fight a little harder to defeat THEIR enemy (US) and drive them out.

The South Vietnamese were on our side, you f'n moron. Now they're all slaves under a Communistic North Vietnamese regime whose labor is used to make cheap shit sold in the U.S., which takes jobs away from Americans you idiots claim to champion. Go play in traffic, ****er.  :bird:
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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2013, 07:30:53 AM »
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  This is my response to you you worthless oxygen thieving b@stards..

     What type of person does it take to be a sniper? Someone who works well under pressure. Someone who can be depended on to make the right call in a stressful situation. Someone who can look through a high powered scope and be willing to pull the trigger to knowingly kill a human being to save the lives of other people.

     Snipers rarely get called on to do their primary mission, which is to kill an enemy quickly, efficiently, and with maximum pyschological impact on a large group of enemies. All this does is save American lives.  you know, the ones you are SUPPOSED to be concerned about. but it also saves lives of the civilian population.

     Which do YOU think is a more effective way to deal with the a$$hole who doesn't give a f$%K about the local people and shoots at them indescriminately (e.g. TERRORISTS, those a$$holes you love so much)? Dropping a 2,000 lb. JDAM on his head? or Precision application of a 175-grain BTHP to either Hydraulically decompress or terminally incapacitate the aforementioned a$$sholes that you love so much?

     Snipers save lives, and are considered to be some of the best soldiers in any Infantry Battalion. Yes they have to be a good shot, but they also have to be able to find their target without being seen. And they have to know a $hit ton of math, what do you think external ballistics are? Oh wait, you don't know, don't care, but it must be EVIL. Because it is something pertaining to a weapon.

     I had the privilege of working at the 7th annual United States Army International Sniper Competition. All of the competitors, from the kid who had just graduated sniper school 2 months prior and was in the team that came in last place, to SFC Jason St. John and SFC Robby Johnson from the Army Marksmanship Unit who won the competition for the second year in a row, considered it to be some of the best training they had ever had.

http://www.army.mil/article/13661/marksmanship-unit-first-to-win-sniper-competition-two-years-in-row/

     Finally, I give the examples most in the SOF community and Airborne community consider to be what a soldier should be like: MSG Randy Schugart and SFC Gary Gordon. Both of these men were Snipers who were flying aerial cover in Mogadishu during operation Gothic Serpent, more commonly known to the public as the "Black Hawk Down"  mission. They asked, ASKED, THREE TIMES before they were given permission to insert to go after the crew of Super 64. They inserted into a city of THOUSANDS of people who wanted them dead, all to see if there was anyone alive, and to keep them alive until backup could make it. They did this willingly, to try and ensure that their comrades would survive. They now stand guard at the gates of heaven, welcoming their latest brother into the fold, SEAL Chris Kyle.

http://www.history.army.mil/html/moh/somalia.html

       Long and the short of it, what type of person does it take to be a sniper? Someone who is selfless, someone who does it KNOWING what they will be called on to do, and STILL does it.

Someone who is a better person than you will EVER BE...

(>>>>>> Typed by a graduate of the U.S. Army Sniper School, Class 1-10)




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Those dummies also forget there are snipers in SWAT teams all over the United States.

If they were being held hostage at their local bank or McDonald's... they would be begging for a sniper to show up and rescue them!!


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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2013, 07:58:07 AM »

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Those dummies also forget there are snipers in SWAT teams all over the United States.

If they were being held hostage at their local bank or McDonald's... they would be begging for a sniper to show up and rescue them!!




Hi 5!! Good call, they wouldn't police blazing away indiscriminately. One my sniper buddies was in the SC National Guard. I'm sure that people are sleeping safer in Columbia thanks to him getting that schooling.

It just reinforces how stupid these people are. If a cop has to take someone down, ( And I am sure everyone here agrees with me on this) he does it with the minimum  force necessary. What better asset will allow you to do that in law enforcement than a sniper? F@#king hypocrites...
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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2013, 08:15:48 AM »
DUmmies couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a 50 megaton nuke.
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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2013, 01:15:02 PM »
DUmmies couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a 50 megaton nuke.

Not even at point blank range.

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Re: What type of person does it take to be a sniper??
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2013, 11:55:32 PM »
The South Vietnamese were on our side, you f'n moron. Now they're all slaves under a Communistic North Vietnamese regime whose labor is used to make cheap shit sold in the U.S., which takes jobs away from Americans you idiots claim to champion. Go play in traffic, ****er.  :bird:

If I remember South Vietnam was the one that asked for help during either the Eisenhower or Kennedy administration and they sent in SF advisers first then they sent in troops to protect the assets on the ground around the bases . Then after that Kennedy then Johnson sent in more troops to engage the enemy after the Gulf of Tonkin incident where the North fired on our ships out in the open water. So i would seem that even though our troops had no real reason to get into a ground war with the North they and the VC had other ideas so as far as I am concerned they called down the thunder and they got it.

Also to be a sniper you have to be chosen by your chain of command in the military. They just don't send people to fill a slot because they know the standards are very high to make it through and it cost money to send people through the courses. You also have to see a psychologist to make sure your not someone that will be unfit for the job plus you have to have a certain PT score and you have to obviously be able to shoot well and do it consistently. Almost any of the requirements most Dummies couldn't begin to pass. There is more consentration and skills to do the job of a sniper then most people can understand.
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