Queer DUmmy ccharles000, a dead ringer for Meatloaf, starts a bonfire that threatens to become an inferno, a phenomenon that DUmmies may as well get used to now.
ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-01-09 10:19 PM
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What do you say to a parent that tells you she is worried you wont go to heaven?
My mom is a wonderful person but she is really religious and does not like that I am gay. When I came out to her two years ago she told me she loved me and that she hopes that I got over it. The other day we were watching tv and and I made a comment that a guy on some show was cute she started tearing up and told me she was afraid I was not going to heaven. I did not say anything. I know that she loves me but I don't think she will ever accept my being gay.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x143707Deja Q (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-01-09 10:26 PM
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4. +1
Though I wouldn't outright say her religious beliefs are fantasy... that's too harsh.
Your subject line itself is perfect. God would not make anyone gay and send them to Hell.
Wasn't every lost soul in Hell originally made by God?
kirby (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-01-09 10:25 PM
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3. Well...
What makes your moms definition of heaven any better than yours?
Uh, maybe because her definition is right, and the queer's is wrong?
defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-01-09 10:30 PM
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12. How about looking for help from someone like "Parents & Friends of Lesbian & Gays" . . .???
Tell her every set of parents has a 30% chance of having a homosexual child.
They have a 30% chance only if they adopt an adult male in San Francisco or Key West.
MADem (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-01-09 10:26 PM
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5. Tell her "I'll save you a seat by the fire," perhaps?
That's what I say to the holier-than-thous.
Let he who is without sin, and all that....!
Walk away (81 posts) Sat Aug-01-09 10:27 PM
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6. That's a heartbreaker. It might help if you knew a religious ...
...person she trusted (like a gay friendly priest) who would reassure her that she would see you in her heaven because you're a good person and she loves you.
I am sure his mother would trust a gay priest. No one's mother trusts a gay priest. Gay priests will accompany DUmmy ccharles000 in Hell, if he doesn't listen to his mother.
noamnety (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-01-09 10:28 PM
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8. I guess you can't really joke around
if she's tearing up. My family leans more toward snark, and I can imagine myself saying something like "Don't worry, there are already a thousand other reasons I won't be going there."
In a serious moment, I guess I might say something like "I'm sorry the church is teaching you that, sounds like they have you pretty upset." I don't know if that's too confrontational, but I do see it as the church being the cause of the tension.
Have you ever brought up going to a PFLAG meeting at a local church?
(In reality - you probably handled it about as well as you could have by just holding your tongue.)
I wish I had better suggestions - I'm sorry you are having to go through this.
Oregone (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-01-09 10:29 PM
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11. Tell her you are worried she will go to heaven. The musicians there blow Who the **** cares where you maybe might mythologically go if fairy tales are true. What are you doing today to make this heaven on earth?
dflprincess (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-01-09 10:35 PM
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14. Any chance you could find a minister she'd respect who could speak to her
and help her to see things differently?
patrice (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-01-09 11:27 PM
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23. Ask her why she damns people for not wanting to live their lives without Love, but, apparently,
forgives others for not making easy little changes in their lives like not gossiping, for example.
burning rain (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-01-09 11:35 PM
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25. I tell people that if there's a hell, that's exactly where I want to go.
Word has it there's no sex or booze or sin of any kind in heaven, so I'd prefer the other place. Seriously, the belief in heaven and hell is so silly that goofing on people who entertain it is certainly justified.
DUmmy burning rain is well on his way to realizing his wish.
Warpy (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-02-09 01:35 AM
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34. Tell her she's not god and neither is her minister
and neither is your judge.
Tell her if god hates gays, he shouldn't have made any of them.
Remind her that none of the ten commandments says anything about gays. Only the priests did, and none of them were god, either.
DUmmy Warpy is making the NAMBLA argument.
Democrats in general, and DUmmies in particular, spend a great deal of energy hating a God who, they contend, does not exist.
