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primitives discuss bovines
« on: August 01, 2009, 07:39:00 PM »
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Hmmm.

I'll bet the crooked tale primitive read a post of franksolich's from yesterday, and having gotten the idea, went hunting for a story.

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The Straight Story  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jul-31-09 08:23 PM
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Dangerous Cows

The image of cows as placid, gentle creatures is a city slicker’s fantasy, judging from an article published on Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which reports that about 20 people a year are killed by cows in the United States. In some cases, the cows actually attack humans—ramming them, knocking them down, goring them, trampling them and kicking them in the head—resulting in fatal injuries to the head and chest.

Mother cows, like other animals, can be fiercely protective of their young, and dairy bulls, the report notes, are “especially possessive of their herd and occasionally disrupt feeding, cleaning, and milking routines.”

The article, in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, discusses 21 cases in which people were killed by cattle from 2003 to 2007 in Iowa, Kansas, Missouri and Nebraska.

In 16 cases, “the animal was deemed to have purposefully struck the victim,” the report states. In 5 other cases, people were crushed against walls or by gates shoved by the cattle. Ten of the attacks were by bulls, 6 by cows and 5 by “multiple cattle.” A third of the deaths were caused by animals that had been aggressive in the past.

http://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/dangerou...

Ban cows and conceal carry of cows now!

If the crooked tale primitive wants more story ideas to light on Skins's island, he's more than welcome to read franksolich, as the other primitives don't.

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HeresyLives (1000+ posts)      Fri Jul-31-09 08:25 PM
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1. Get revenge. Go Cow-tipping.

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Critters2  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jul-31-09 08:29 PM
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5. I think the cows are getting revenge for what humans do to them on a daily basis.

A few trampled humans is nothing compared to what goes on in slaughterhouses. 

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MineralMan  (1000+ posts)      Fri Jul-31-09 08:25 PM
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2. I used to work at a dairy, and the only danger you were in from the cows was being trampled as they hurried to their stanchions to eat some grain and get milked. Otherwise, they were all sweethearts with massive gas coming out of both ends.

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Critters2  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jul-31-09 08:27 PM
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3. I remember a case when I lived in Iowa. Two bachelor brothers were killed by their cattle. Can't remember all the details, except that their sister found them, and authorities concluded that one brother was attacked first, and the other tried to come to his aid. It was pretty amazing.

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jwirr  (1000+ posts)      Fri Jul-31-09 08:33 PM
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6. I was 13 years old when my 3 year old sister was attacked by a steer.

I saw it coming and ran to save her - got there just minutes before and pulled her away. We were very lucky to survive. In the defense of the animal in our case - my sister had no business being in the barnyard. The moral of the story is that if you are around animals use precautions.

The moral is, don't be queer around cattle.  Being queer around cattle spooks them.

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nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jul-31-09 08:29 PM
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4. In all seriousness when volunteered at a Kibutz a lifetime ago

I could deal with Chickens... and they can be vicious.

But no volunteer was allowed near the cows... two reasons

The bull was vicious. You walked by and he'd be snorting and huffing... and the cows were known to charge.

Many years later, in another continent, I picked up an agricultural worker that was charged by the family cow...

We first had to distract "daisy" away from him... not an easy task for them city slickers.

I even considered having the army, we had an escort, shoot the damn thing down. But that would have left them without a milk cow. So we used the siren, and some towels to shoo it away, and them moved VERY FAST.

You could say we were very well motivated.

Oh and after he went home, they kept it in the corral, and were ever so careful at milking time.

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CanonRay (1000+ posts)      Fri Jul-31-09 08:52 PM
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11. No joke, a lady down the road got her hip broken by a cow

it pinned her up her up against a barn wall. They are generally docile, but they are big animals just the same.

What the primitives don't know about cattle would fill encyclopedias.  Many sets.
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Re: primitives discuss bovines
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2009, 07:50:21 PM »
I saw it coming and ran to save her - got there just minutes before and pulled her away.

One of them is slow.
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Re: primitives discuss bovines
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2009, 08:10:48 PM »
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20 people a year are killed by cows

If you follow the link, ten of that 20 were killed by bulls. It probably surprises DUmmies, but bulls aren't cows. If there were a cow riding competition at the rodeo, it would not be one of the more popular events.
At any rate, bovines are pikers when it comes to killing people, unless you count heart disease. Honeybees and deer kill a lot more Americans than the gazillion cows and bulls we live with.

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Re: primitives discuss bovines
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2009, 08:50:31 PM »
Working around large animals has always been dangerous.  Occupational hazard for those who raise 'em.  Working horses are a damn' sight more dangerous than cattle, FWIW.
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Re: primitives discuss bovines
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2009, 10:30:59 PM »
My uncle went out and bought a yearling bull after his son had left home and he was too old to be able to do anything with it.  Being the closest member of the family who could handle the problem when this bull got loose, I had to go round him up a bunch of times.  This bull and I were pretty much mortal enemies.  Good thing cattle are stupid.
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Re: primitives discuss bovines
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2009, 01:15:47 AM »
Hell, my grandad had a bull I used to feed cubes BY HAND. His name was J.J. and he went about 1600 lbs. I didn't even know to be scared. I just rubbed his nose while he chewed.
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Re: primitives discuss bovines
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2009, 01:27:56 AM »
Hell, my grandad had a bull I used to feed cubes BY HAND. His name was J.J. and he went about 1600 lbs. I didn't even know to be scared. I just rubbed his nose while he chewed.

We had a bull at our dairy farm that we used to breed the heifers with (the cows were done artificially).  His name was "Nick" and he was a docile as they come.

When we sold him, we went to the stockyard to see the livestock in the pens.  The bulls are kept in separate pens, otherwise they would fight.  Even then, they would be bellowing and butting at the sides of the pens, and generally raising hell.  Nick was just laying in his, chillin' and chewing his cud.  He could have cared less....

We never kept bulls long enough for them to get big and be a problem.  Our main "bulls" were kept in a liquid nitrogen refrigerator....
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2009, 01:35:22 AM »
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What the primitives don't know about cattle would fill encyclopedias.  Many sets.

What the primitives don't know, period, but are "experts" at, would be greater than the current total memory capacity of ALL our computers....

If ignorance is bliss, DUmmies are going for sainthood....
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Re: primitives discuss bovines
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2009, 05:25:08 AM »
What the primitives don't know, period, but are "experts" at, would be greater than the current total memory capacity of ALL our computers....

If ignorance is bliss, DUmmies are going for sainthood....

There just ain't that many of us left who have had the farm experience. Farms are being  bought up by foreign company's and hire only their own.

When the government put in place all the new regulations for collecting, storage and selling of milk, the equipment cost a fortune.  A small farmer with 50 odd milk cows ended up selling them and raising goats as there were no expensive lines to run, or anything near what regulations were in place for cow milk.

Goat milk makes wonderful cheese and can be valuable for children to drink when they are allergic to the milk from cows.

Now those big white milk goats are a hoot, they have the horns that grow up and toward their back.  When females need a little loven, two will run full speed and but horns, the sound travels for miles and any Billy within the area, from the little guys to the big dudes will do their best to get to the girls.   So funny watching a scrub goat have a go at the big girls, like watching a 4 pound male dog try to mate with a Rottie.

The Billy's at any size can be dangerous, stink to high heaven and have a bad habit of sliming everything from the side of the house, the truck or the barn door.

True cows are big son of a guns and cause mayham but, the worse offender is for me the Bull hog.   Darn those things have been known to eat small children.

Some may wonder why another poster mentioned chickens being dangerous was in the pen one day cleaning up the feathers and dodo and some city boy came along and sprayed the birds with water to cool them off.  Great, I got impaled by the rooster in my shin and was on antibiotics for a month.  Terrible infection, and to make matters worse when we cooked the sucker he didn't taste all that good.






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Re: primitives discuss bovines
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2009, 05:27:43 AM »
A bull is a dangerous,never to be trusted animal....the one you trust is the one that will hurt or kill you.
Cows almost never although we would had some that were more aggressive then others as far as kicking at you when you walked by in the barn or putting a milker on them.

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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2009, 07:35:49 AM »
A bull is a dangerous,never to be trusted animal....the one you trust is the one that will hurt or kill you.
Cows almost never although we would had some that were more aggressive then others as far as kicking at you when you walked by in the barn or putting a milker on them.

True that.  I NEVER turned my back on a bull, but if we had any cows that would kick, they went either straight to the stockyard or the freezer.  If we couldn't milk them, we ate them....
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Re: primitives discuss bovines
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2009, 07:47:22 AM »
I saw it coming and ran to save her - got there just minutes before and pulled her away.

One of them is slow.

I saw that - I figured it was primitive sarcasm

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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2009, 07:50:24 AM »
A bull is a dangerous,never to be trusted animal....the one you trust is the one that will hurt or kill you.
Cows almost never although we would had some that were more aggressive then others as far as kicking at you when you walked by in the barn or putting a milker on them.

I cannot tell you how many times those darn milk cows caused me fear or pain.

I visited a farm where we helped with the crops etc. I was 7 months pregnant at the time and had no problem with opening the fence gate to let the milkers Amble home to be milked.


I ran into the field and stood on a stone wall to open the gate.   It is fun to watch how the milkers come home at the end of the day.  It is like communal conscience's to see how at the end of day all the cows that had been laying down get to their feet and head for their barn.

I had opened the gate 50 times or more in the past but this time was different. A pregnant cow charged the gate, she was mean as a hornet.  I jumped behind the stone wall as the critters went past.

Once they were gone I closed the gate and very slowly made my way back to the barn.

That was an eye opener for me, I was not allowed in the barn, the crazy cow was in labor with twins.    I heard words such as block and tackle, breach births and the cow cannot feed twins.

Cow survived and just on calf, I went on to have my baby without block and tackle.


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Re: primitives discuss bovines
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2009, 12:24:13 PM »
I cannot tell you how many times those darn milk cows caused me fear or pain.

I visited a farm where we helped with the crops etc. I was 7 months pregnant at the time and had no problem with opening the fence gate to let the milkers Amble home to be milked.


I ran into the field and stood on a stone wall to open the gate.   It is fun to watch how the milkers come home at the end of the day.  It is like communal conscience's to see how at the end of day all the cows that had been laying down get to their feet and head for their barn.

I had opened the gate 50 times or more in the past but this time was different. A pregnant cow charged the gate, she was mean as a hornet.  I jumped behind the stone wall as the critters went past.

Once they were gone I closed the gate and very slowly made my way back to the barn.

That was an eye opener for me, I was not allowed in the barn, the crazy cow was in labor with twins.    I heard words such as block and tackle, breach births and the cow cannot feed twins.

Cow survived and just on calf, I went on to have my baby without block and tackle.



What you have to remember though is that they are animals without a thought process.
Once they have determined themselves to do a certain thing there is no changing their minds.
I have seen it with small herds being tormented by flies when they will panic and run.
You do not stop a running cow short of shooting her.

By and large though it isn`t a danger and would have no fear of walking through a barn full of them loose.

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Re: primitives discuss bovines
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2009, 11:43:14 PM »
At any rate, bovines are pikers when it comes to killing people, unless you count heart disease.
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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2009, 09:59:23 AM »
Working around large animals has always been dangerous.  Occupational hazard for those who raise 'em.  Working horses are a damn' sight more dangerous than cattle, FWIW.

We have 25 heifers and steers, 7 horses, 3 mules and a donkey. The donkey is by far the most dangerous of the lot. Normally docile, when he gets the scent of one of the horses in heat, he's an asshole!

The cows are pretty much as DUmb as a sack of hammers! They would fit right in over on the island! All I have to do is crack my whip and I can get them to do anything I need them to do. Amazing the similarity they exhibit with the DUmmies, just amazing!
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Re: primitives discuss bovines
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2009, 10:02:10 AM »
I cannot tell you how many times those darn milk cows caused me fear or pain.

I visited a farm where we helped with the crops etc. I was 7 months pregnant at the time and had no problem with opening the fence gate to let the milkers Amble home to be milked.


I ran into the field and stood on a stone wall to open the gate.   It is fun to watch how the milkers come home at the end of the day.  It is like communal conscience's to see how at the end of day all the cows that had been laying down get to their feet and head for their barn.

I had opened the gate 50 times or more in the past but this time was different. A pregnant cow charged the gate, she was mean as a hornet.  I jumped behind the stone wall as the critters went past.

Once they were gone I closed the gate and very slowly made my way back to the barn.

That was an eye opener for me, I was not allowed in the barn, the crazy cow was in labor with twins.    I heard words such as block and tackle, breach births and the cow cannot feed twins.

Cow survived and just on calf, I went on to have my baby without block and tackle.




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Re: primitives discuss bovines
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2009, 10:33:03 AM »
I saw it coming and ran to save her - got there just minutes before and pulled her away.

One of them is slow.

That is what I thought..... that was a very slow moving steer