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Title: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: TheSarge on January 22, 2009, 08:30:08 PM
If the Obama campaign represented a sleek, new iPhone kind of future, the first day of the Obama administration looked more like the rotary-dial past.

Two years after launching the most technologically savvy presidential campaign in history, Obama officials ran smack into the constraints of the federal bureaucracy yesterday, encountering a jumble of disconnected phone lines, old computer software, and security regulations forbidding outside e-mail accounts.

What does that mean in 21st-century terms? No Facebook to communicate with supporters. No outside e-mail log-ins. No instant messaging. Hard adjustments for a staff that helped sweep Obama to power through, among other things, relentless online social networking.

"It is kind of like going from an Xbox to an Atari," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said of his new digs.

In many ways, the move into the White House resembled a first day at school: Advisers wandered the halls, looking for their offices. Aides spent hours in orientation, learning such things as government ethics rules as well as how their paychecks will be delivered. And everyone filled out a seemingly endless pile of paperwork.

There were plenty of first-day glitches, too, as calls to many lines in the West Wing were met with a busy signal all morning and those to the main White House switchboard were greeted by a recording, redirecting callers to the presidential Web site. A number of reporters were also shut out of the White House because of lost security clearance lists.

By late evening, the vaunted new White House Web site did not offer any updated posts about President Obama's busy first day on the job, which included an inaugural prayer service, an open house with the public, and meetings with his economic and national security teams.

Nor did the site reflect the transparency Obama promised to deliver. "The President has not yet issued any executive orders," it stated hours after Obama issued executive orders to tighten ethics rules, enhance Freedom of Information Act rules and freeze the salaries of White House officials who earn more than $100,000.

The site was updated for the first time last night, when information on the executive orders was added. But there were still no pool reports or blog entries.

No one could quite explain the problem -- but they swore it would be fixed.

One member of the White House new-media team came to work on Tuesday, right after the swearing-in ceremony, only to discover that it was impossible to know which programs could be updated, or even which computers could be used for which purposes. The team members, accustomed to working on Macintoshes, found computers outfitted with six-year-old versions of Microsoft software. Laptops were scarce, assigned to only a few people in the West Wing. The team was left struggling to put closed captions on online videos.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/21/AR2009012104249.html?sid=ST2009012104276&s_pos=
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: Carl on January 22, 2009, 08:35:48 PM
Oh noes...you mean O might not have the benefit of a scripted media presentation but actually have to be himself????
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: DixieBelle on January 22, 2009, 08:39:43 PM
Well crap. That means another day without my pony!
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: Chris_ on January 22, 2009, 08:55:17 PM
Well crap. That means another day without my pony!

I wouldn't be holding your breath waiting on that nag, Dixie.  Given the new incompetence factor trhe new administration brings to the old bureaucratic red tape, your grandchildren might get your pony about the time they need to pay their 80% Socialist Security taxes.
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: Rebel on January 22, 2009, 09:35:32 PM
X-Box generation, meet the Get the ****ing job done generation.  :whatever:

I swear, the inmates are now running the asylum.
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: franksolich on January 22, 2009, 09:40:51 PM
X-Box generation, meet the Get the ****ing job done generation.  :whatever:

I swear, the inmates are now running the asylum.

You know, I v-a-g-u-e-l-y recall--no, I specifically recall--Time magazine, late January, early February, 1993, where the newly-arrived Clintonistas griped about the outdatedness of the computer systems used 1989-1993.

You suppose this is like that homeless template they use; they recycle old stories?
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: MrsSmith on January 22, 2009, 10:13:17 PM
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Two years after launching the most technologically savvy presidential campaign in history, Obama officials ran smack into the constraints of the federal bureaucracy yesterday, encountering a jumble of disconnected phone lines, old computer software, and security regulations forbidding outside e-mail accounts.

What does that mean in 21st-century terms? No Facebook to communicate with supporters. No outside e-mail log-ins. No instant messaging. Hard adjustments for a staff that helped sweep Obama to power through, among other things, relentless online social networking.

Am I the only one that remembers all the screaming about outside e-mail accounts the supposedly terribly important info that the Dims wanted so badly...and then they're surprised that access is denied??   ::)  What else could they expect after their  :censored: witchhunt?  ::) :thatsright:
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: docstew on January 23, 2009, 10:49:52 AM
Am I the only one that remembers all the screaming about outside e-mail accounts the supposedly terribly important info that the Dims wanted so badly...and then they're surprised that access is denied??   ::)  What else could they expect after their  :censored: witchhunt?  ::) :thatsright:

how about the outrage over Palin's use of a yahoo account to conduct state business?  where is that outrage now?
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: Tess on January 23, 2009, 11:48:04 AM
At least they have all the "O's".   :whatever:
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: dutch508 on January 23, 2009, 12:14:11 PM
Guess where all that money comes from to update the IT at the White House?

You want to talk dinosaur? I work off a D600...at Space Command...with no USB ports, no thumb drives, no or little outside access.

It's called your budget at work. Uparmored HMMWVs are more importaint than a ****ing facebook account.

****ing retards.
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: MrsSmith on January 23, 2009, 12:22:26 PM
how about the outrage over Palin's use of a yahoo account to conduct state business?  where is that outrage now?
It's different when it's Dims in power.  ::)  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: TheSarge on January 23, 2009, 12:23:34 PM
Guess where all that money comes from to update the IT at the White House?

You want to talk dinosaur? I work off a D600...at Space Command...with no USB ports, no thumb drives, no or little outside access.

It's called your budget at work. Uparmored HMMWVs are more importaint than a ******* facebook account.

******* retards.

I'm just speechless that they even thought they could keep all of their civilian toys.
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: Chris_ on January 23, 2009, 12:52:07 PM
X-Box generation, meet the Get the ****ing job done generation.  :whatever:

I swear, the inmates are now running the asylum.

Amuse yourselves like us grownups did, reichstag:

(http://www.mikecs.net/prodigeek/images/GeekOutMomentPong_E8A9/pong.gif)
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: Tess on January 23, 2009, 12:53:24 PM
Amuse yourselves like us grownups did, reichstag:

(http://www.mikecs.net/prodigeek/images/GeekOutMomentPong_E8A9/pong.gif)

PONG!!!!
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: docstew on January 23, 2009, 05:52:49 PM
PONG!!!!

No Beer?  Not playing...  :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: Jim on January 23, 2009, 09:57:47 PM
I read this story and it occurred to me that this is the LAST thing I would want published.

The O team has had unprecedented access during this transition.  But instead of taking some of those resources and planning to move the crew from Chicago to DC they were going around head hunting.

Seems to me that any executive with a move in their sights would demand that the logistics be seen to as opposed to what they did do.

Not only does the O's lack of executive skills come into highlight, so does the Chicago Mafia's.

Nobody is driving the bus....
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: Redstatecka on January 23, 2009, 10:11:22 PM
Sorry, but the story just doesn't hold water.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for Obama's transition team to not have known about this. Especially given the manner in which Obama has used Internet technology and mobile telephony, etc.

The Democrats are whining because that is what they do best. That and blaming others for their shortcomings, ignorance and just plain old stupidity.

But, of course, the advocacy/adversary media will spin the story as it did.
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: Tess on January 24, 2009, 09:29:25 AM
Sorry, but the story just doesn't hold water.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for Obama's transition team to not have known about this. Especially given the manner in which Obama has used Internet technology and mobile telephony, etc.

The Democrats are whining because that is what they do best. That and blaming others for their shortcomings, ignorance and just plain old stupidity.

But, of course, the advocacy/adversary media will spin the story as it did.

Of course they knew.  The thing is, they couldn't do anything about it before they were officially in office.  Bush was adamant about making sure there was a very smooth transition.  It isn't like they walked in and said, "What?  I've never seen this before!"  It is yet another stunt as part of the three ring circus that is the obama administration.  And a way to show how inept Bush was.  In reality things were done to protocol and there was no need for staffers to check their personal email or go on facebook while at work because they were actually WORKING.  This time around those people are going to need something to do while Obama wanders aimlessly around trying to strong arm reporters and chatting away on his blackberry.   :whatever:
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: Airwolf on January 25, 2009, 02:04:40 PM
If the Obama campaign represented a sleek, new iPhone kind of future, the first day of the Obama administration looked more like the rotary-dial past.

Two years after launching the most technologically savvy presidential campaign in history, Obama officials ran smack into the constraints of the federal bureaucracy yesterday, encountering a jumble of disconnected phone lines, old computer software, and security regulations forbidding outside e-mail accounts.

What does that mean in 21st-century terms? No Facebook to communicate with supporters. No outside e-mail log-ins. No instant messaging. Hard adjustments for a staff that helped sweep Obama to power through, among other things, relentless online social networking.

"It is kind of like going from an Xbox to an Atari," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said of his new digs.

In many ways, the move into the White House resembled a first day at school: Advisers wandered the halls, looking for their offices. Aides spent hours in orientation, learning such things as government ethics rules as well as how their paychecks will be delivered. And everyone filled out a seemingly endless pile of paperwork.

There were plenty of first-day glitches, too, as calls to many lines in the West Wing were met with a busy signal all morning and those to the main White House switchboard were greeted by a recording, redirecting callers to the presidential Web site. A number of reporters were also shut out of the White House because of lost security clearance lists.

By late evening, the vaunted new White House Web site did not offer any updated posts about President Obama's busy first day on the job, which included an inaugural prayer service, an open house with the public, and meetings with his economic and national security teams.

Nor did the site reflect the transparency Obama promised to deliver. "The President has not yet issued any executive orders," it stated hours after Obama issued executive orders to tighten ethics rules, enhance Freedom of Information Act rules and freeze the salaries of White House officials who earn more than $100,000.

The site was updated for the first time last night, when information on the executive orders was added. But there were still no pool reports or blog entries.

No one could quite explain the problem -- but they swore it would be fixed.

One member of the White House new-media team came to work on Tuesday, right after the swearing-in ceremony, only to discover that it was impossible to know which programs could be updated, or even which computers could be used for which purposes. The team members, accustomed to working on Macintoshes, found computers outfitted with six-year-old versions of Microsoft software. Laptops were scarce, assigned to only a few people in the West Wing. The team was left struggling to put closed captions on online videos.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/21/AR2009012104249.html?sid=ST2009012104276&s_pos=



No outside leaks of information to the enemies of the USA or in reality more like hampered.
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: TheSarge on January 25, 2009, 03:34:24 PM
Sorry, but the story just doesn't hold water.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for Obama's transition team to not have known about this. Especially given the manner in which Obama has used Internet technology and mobile telephony, etc.

The Democrats are whining because that is what they do best. That and blaming others for their shortcomings, ignorance and just plain old stupidity.

But, of course, the advocacy/adversary media will spin the story as it did.

Considering that the majority of his staff were in those very same offices a scant 9 years ago...this shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone.
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: bijou on January 26, 2009, 05:18:59 PM

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President Barack Obama's aides, who ran the most tech-savvy US election campaign in history, have been forced into a red-faced admission - the White House email system has crashed.

"Our email system is not working so well," press spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters at the start of his daily briefing on Monday.

"We'll endeavour to get you information from earlier in the day, hopefully in a little bit more of a timely manner, if we can get the email to work."

At one stage, Obama aides were forced to turn back the clock and hand out copies of memoranda signed by the president on cutting global warming, not via email as is normal, but by the dead tree method, on paper.

The email meltdown was all the more embarrassing as the White House only last week had revealed that the famously connected new president Barack Obama had won a battle to keep his BlackBerry -- albeit a high security encrypted device.
...
Heh (http://www.livenews.com.au/Articles/2009/01/27/Obama_White_House_suffers_email_meltdown)
Title: Re: Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Post by: thundley4 on January 26, 2009, 08:32:31 PM
The more cutting edge technology is also the most likely to break down, as the story above indicates, and also the more likely to be hacked.   Ask the RIAA and Hollywood about broken encryptions.