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Everything I Know About Weight Loss
« on: June 10, 2013, 11:22:32 AM »
I promised to start this thread about a year ago when I observed the occasion of my 5,000th post on the forum.
I will post a chapter every day or couple of days until I have posted my whole treatise.
I welcome all comments including any knowledge, experience or information other forum members might have on the subject.
If it seems appropriate I will try to answer all replies.
I hope you enjoy the thread !
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Re: Everything I Know About Weight Loss
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2013, 11:25:57 AM »
Preface...

I have been wanting to tackle this project for a long time. I have talked a lot about it. I have written about it. I have  thought a lot about it. I have even threatened to do it. But now I have done it.
What I was hoping for ideally, is to post my outline first, and then one subject a day thereafter to allow comments, criticisms, and even snide remarks, until I have posted all subjects.
I am especially looking for constructive criticism, but any comment whatsoever will be appreciated. You can offer additions, deletions, rearrangements, your own experiences, whatever blows your skirt up.
You may notice that I didn't follow the exact order of my outline. As I fleshed out my outline, I did rearrange some topics to flow more logically as I perceived flow. But further input on topic order would be appreciated for an even better possible flow and overall content.
Therefore, Mods, I request quite a bit of latitude in amending and modifying all my posts in this topic. I don't know what the default modify deadline is. It seems to me like it's an hour or so. I might need a week or more, at least in this one thread.
As you know, I have a congenital hatred of lurkers in my threads. I detest lurkers generally, but in this thread, they are not allowed. If you took the time to come here and see what's going on out of curiosity, or whatever, then take the time to make a comment. I don't care if it's "boo", or "fat rules". Just make a comment. THERE ARE NO EFFING LURKERS ALLOWED IN THIS THREAD. THAT GOES FOR YOU. If you don't believe me, try me, and I'll tell you how I really feel.
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Re: Everything I Know About Weight Loss
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2013, 11:29:36 AM »
It's all about carbs. Limit carbs and, for me, not eating past 6 PM and weight drops. Real simple.

Fat doesn't seem to make a great deal of difference. So cheese and nuts - within reason - are okay.

It's all about carbs and cutting way, way back on 'em.

Lurk on that one, 'zombie!  :-)
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2013, 11:30:24 AM »
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Re: Everything I Know About Weight Loss
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2013, 11:57:47 AM »
I've lost 5 pounds in the last 3 weeks or so, and I have a good 50 pounds to go before I reach my goal weight.  For me it is about being honest with myself about what I'm eating and eating in moderation.  Also, physical activity is huge when it comes to weight loss for me.  I was running regularly until I sprained my ankle a couple weeks ago.  I think it is just about healed enough for some easy jogging. 

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Re: Everything I Know About Weight Loss
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2013, 12:06:51 PM »
I am curious to see what does work for people, as I could stand to shed some weight myself.  The not eating after 6pm doesn't work for me, as I am not even home from my workday at 6.  I know I need to exercise more as well.  Motivation is a challenge for me.  Boo! Fat Rules!   :-)
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Re: Everything I Know About Weight Loss
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2013, 12:13:31 PM »
I am curious to see what does work for people, as I could stand to shed some weight myself.  The not eating after 6pm doesn't work for me, as I am not even home from my workday at 6.  I know I need to exercise more as well.  Motivation is a challenge for me.  Boo! Fat Rules!   :-)

One thing I'll do for exercise when I'm feeling particularly unmotivated is stick an audiobook on my iPhone and go for a nice long walk. 

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Re: Everything I Know About Weight Loss
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2013, 12:16:42 PM »
Celtic, and Iassa, Beautiful posts !
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Re: Everything I Know About Weight Loss
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2013, 01:11:42 PM »
OMG, I'm afraid to get a zobbie spanking for lurking  :popcorn:

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Re: Everything I Know About Weight Loss
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2013, 02:00:28 PM »
OMG, I'm afraid to get a zobbie spanking for lurking  :popcorn:

Some spankings might be pleasant.  :naughty:
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Re: Everything I Know About Weight Loss
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2013, 02:12:00 PM »
I know I need to exercise more as well.  Motivation is a challenge for me.  Boo! Fat Rules!   :-)

I'll be the chubby guy in the same corner as Tots holding the other side of the "Boo! Fat Rules" banner.  :lmao:

I'm hoping Jtyangel sees this thread, she seems to be someone very well versed in fitness. 
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Re: Everything I Know About Weight Loss
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2013, 03:01:06 PM »
here, Eupher, CC, wonderful. Thank you for not lurking.

I was going to publish my table of contents tomorrow, but due to a great response to the thread, here it is...

Basal metabolism ✓
Heart rate zones✓
A pound of fat is 3,500 calories, or 4 sticks of butter weighing one pound✓
Rate of weight loss✓
   Ideal caloric deficit✓
   Ideal weight loss rate✓
Methods of weight loss✓
   Dieting✓   
   Exercising✓
   Diet and exercise✓
Fat density versus muscle density✓
Muscle, water, and fat loss hierarchy ✓
Muscle, water, and fat gain hierarchy✓
Yo-yo dieting✓
Diet and diet items interaction✓
   Alcohol and Dieting✓
   Tobacco and Dieting✓
   Caffeine and energy drinks and dieting✓
My experience with weight loss✓
Vitamin supplements and weight loss✓
   "The 1,000 pound man starving on 15,000 calories a day"✓
Exercise✓
   Muscles
      Smooth✓
      Cardiac✓
      Skeletal✓
         Fast Twitch Sprint type , bulking heavy weights✓
         Slow twitch endurance type toning lighter weights✓
      Pyramids✓
         Up✓
         Down✓
         Neggies✓
   Exercise effect on hunger✓
      Physiolgical exercise effects✓
      Psychological exercise effects✓
   Methods of exercise✓
   Warm up and cool down✓
   stretching✓
   isometrics (static anaerobic)✓
   aerobic (calisthenic)✓
   anaerobic (dynamic)✓
   plyometric✓
   additive property of exercise✓
   Amount of exercise✓
   Buildup of exercise✓
   Post exercise metabolism effect✓
   Overexertion and injuries✓
Methods of calorie reduction or diet alteration sometimes aka "Lifestyle change"✓
   elimination✓
   substitution✓
   reduction✓
   Spreading✓
Managing hunger✓
   Ravenous✓
   Hungry✓
   Not hungry✓
   Full✓
   Sated✓
   Timing your hunger✓
Mechanism for hunger✓
BMI (Body Mass Index) aka % body fat✓
   Marathoner/Triathlete✓
      Male 6%✓
      Female 8%✓
   Normal 12 to 18(M) 14 to 20 (F)✓
   Overfat 18 to 26(M) 20 to 28 (F)✓
   Obese  above 26 (M) 28(F)✓
Discipline, managing habits✓
   Mindset✓
   Fasting✓
The starvation reflex✓
   On muscles✓
   On the stomach✓
Weighing protocols✓
Spot reducing✓
Snake oil weight loss machines✓
Snake oil weight loss supplements✓
Sauna effect, and hazards steam saunas, dry saunas✓
Fad diets✓
Weight Loss plateaus✓
Hydration✓
   Thirst levels✓
   Hydration levels✓
   Hydration and egestion✓
   Proper hydration✓
   Diuretics✓
      Tea✓
      Colas✓
      Coffee✓
      Any form of caffeine✓
   Dehydration✓
   Cellular cleansing✓
   Amount of intake✓
   Alcohol✓
   Substitutes to hydration✓
   Survival/ fasting starvation vs dehydration✓
Body types✓
   Endomorphic✓
   Ectomorphic✓
   Mesomorphic✓
Thyroid: my High School football coach✓
Age and Weight Loss✓
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Re: Everything I Know About Weight Loss
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2013, 03:13:38 PM »
Good God, 'zombie. Just go ahead and write an f'n dissertation.

At least you'd get credit for that in a PhD program.
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Re: Everything I Know About Weight Loss
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2013, 03:23:01 PM »
I am at my ideal weight at all times.  My ideal weight is determined by a flexible scale that aligns with whatever my weight is when I happen to weigh myself. 

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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2013, 03:26:11 PM »
I am at my ideal weight at all times.  My ideal weight is determined by a flexible scale that aligns with whatever my weight is when I happen to weigh myself. 
That's actually not a bad marketing idea. If you could come up with a product like that it might be "the better mousetrap".
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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2013, 03:31:20 PM »
That's actually not a bad marketing idea. If you could come up with a product like that it might be "the better mousetrap".

I would never make ugly "profit" from my system.  I shall provide it free to all the huddled masses for a nominal shipping/handling charge.

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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2013, 03:32:24 PM »
^And the world would beat a path to your door !
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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2013, 03:33:10 PM »
I would never make ugly "profit" from my system.  I shall provide it free to all the huddled masses for a nominal shipping/handling charge.


Don't tell me -- let me guess.

A case of non-pasteurized Guinness, flown overnight directly from Dublin, and a box of whatever kinda Cuban cigars that stink up the night air.
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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2013, 03:43:31 PM »

Don't tell me -- let me guess.

A case of non-pasteurized Guinness, flown overnight directly from Dublin, and a box of whatever kinda Cuban cigars that stink up the night air.

Nothing so complicated.  My system will fit on a three fold pamphlet and, as I said, will be free.  There will be a nominal shipping handling charge for postage and, not unlike the above mentioned cigars, to pay young Cuban girls to fold them on their thighs.

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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2013, 03:47:21 PM »
^You mean dominicans...
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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2013, 03:56:23 PM »
Coincidence?  Nah, Act of God.
As you can tell by my username, I am Tiny1.  That name was given to me when I was a bodyguard in Hollywood, 30 some years ago.  Then, I was 6'3 and 307 lbs.  I had a 40 inch waist, and a 60 inch Chest.  Now, that seems reversed.
I was injured 15 or so years ago.  I was out of work for almost 2 years.  Then, I had a genetic heart issue.  Seems I've had an enlarged heart, all my life.  With the onset of severe arthritis, I have gained almost a hundred more pounds.  My Dr. and I set down this week, and had a straight talk.  He seems to think my Testosterone may be slightly low, causing me pain with my arthritis, difficulty sleeping, and trouble exercising.   We discussed how to raise my numbers, without putting me on hormone therapy.
We talk for about 30 minutes, and I realize he is talking about a "modified" version of Atkins.  High protein, and high mono and saturated fats, complex carbs, with the addition of some T building foods.  Things like, walnuts, avacados, pumpkin seeds, etc.
Even though you can never exercise your way out of bad nutrition, exercise is critical.  But not just exercise, but intense interval stuff.  Big Movement Weight exercises, with lightweight, and loads of reps.   Intense cardio, like sprints.  90 second recover rates, and  short term workouts.
The reason I even commented, is that we always hear how our advanced age makes it harder to lose weight.   I think the reason in men, is this testosterone connection.  It only needs to be a bit low, to screw up your weight loss.  As soon as my Testosterone Test comes back, I'll begin.  I'll keep everyone posted.
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Re: Everything I Know About Weight Loss
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2013, 04:57:01 PM »
Nothing so complicated.  My system will fit on a three fold pamphlet and, as I said, will be free.  There will be a nominal shipping handling charge for postage and, not unlike the above mentioned cigars, to pay young Cuban girls to fold them on their thighs.

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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2013, 06:36:05 PM »
I usually need to shed the winter weight I put on.  This winter I put on 13#.  I enjoy going to a warm water therapy pool and doing water exercises in a group of us old farts.  There's also lap swimming and water walking.  Water walking really helps therapy-wise.

The warm water is bath temperature and is very nice to joints.  A pal who goes with me is healing from surgery, so I've been procrastinating going alone.  It's a bit of a drive.

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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2013, 06:41:31 PM »
Swimming is an excellent exercise for weight loss. It is low impact on the joints, and it has a doubling effect on calorie expenditure.
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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2013, 03:34:55 AM »
Installment 1...

My experience with weight loss

As a toddler on up, I was always very skinny, and all the way through high school, college, and until midway through my military service. I had the endomorph body type. I would estimate my body fat levels at somewhere between 5 to 7%, and I could eat anything I wanted. All that came to a crashing halt in my later 20's living as a bachelor in a 3 bedroom house with a guy room mate from my AOCS class. I had full days going where if I wasn't doing something career related, I was studying my 4th point of contact off. So there seemed to be no time for a well balanced home cooked meal, or even time to go to a restaurant for a decent meal. My diet consisted of, for nearly a year,  a concoction I called meat dip, Entenmann's chocolate chip cookies, and large quantities of soda. The main ingredients for meat dip were velveeta cheese, and ground pork sausage. I was getting most of the major food groups. That winter, my exercise regimen decreased to next to nothing, and as a result, I put on over 20 pounds by spring. I was literally shocked. It seemed like something unimaginable had happened overnight, and without warning. I have been skirmishing with up and down body weight ever since. My max was 210, or maybe more, I was too much of a coward to weigh myself when I was that big. As a baseline, I graduated high school just over 160 pounds, and maybe a pound or two more before my winter of discontent about 9 years later. Since high school I would like to think I have gained in muscle mass so that I imagine my ideal 7 to 9% body fat weight to be 170 to 175. At 170 that would mean I would have to lose 40 (or more) pounds to get to my target. That is a decent amount of weight for anyone to lose. I don't consider it to be small potatoes. And I fear, as I get older, it will be harder and harder to lose any excess weight, so I really want to get something done about it  sooner rather than later.
The current weight loss program I am on now, I describe to you as you continue to read.
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