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Interests => Religious Discussions => Topic started by: FiddlingAnt on April 03, 2014, 02:08:38 PM
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The much promote movie Noah debuted last weekend to less than blockbuster levels ($44 million) given the amount of money spent to produce and promote it ($250 million). It is clear that director Darren Aronofsky's warped retelling of the Noah story is not going to attract the massive interest of the church going public that helped the last high profile religious movie, The Passion of Christ to make over $600 million from a cost of $30 million. He is missing out on an untapped market. Four to five times as many people attend church each week compared to how many people go to the movies each week.
This movie is just the latest example of the secular world view seeking to supplant the traditional religious world view in modern America. Religion has been forced out of schools. Religious values regarding the protection of unborn life has been overruled. The traditional definition of marriage is being redefined. And now the Bible is being revised to replace the Word of God with a message not found in the Bible.
Aronofsky makes the excuse that there is not enough source material in the Bible for a 2 1/2 hour movie, so he had to creatively filled in the blanks and created conflict that is needed to keep interest in a story. I get that. I've dabbled in screenwriting myself (Jihad on Hollywood), so I know the elements of an engaging story. However, Aronofsky totally changes the message of the Noah story to promote an agenda not found at all in the Bible.
Aronofsky's Noah is a vegan Jason killing machine (without the hockey mask). He believes that God wants to destroy man because of his mishandling of the environment. The evil depicted in the movie is murder and people eating meat. Only the animals will be saved and he will make sure that he and all his family will die off, even to the extreme of killing his own granddaughters to prevent the birth of more humans. Aronofsky couldn't change the story beyond this (or we wouldn't be here). His Noah eventually changes his mind and tells his descendants to multiply and replenish the earth.
What did Aronofsky get wrong?
* The Bible clearly states that Noah and his wife and his 3 sons and their wives boarded the ark. Aronofsky leaves out the wives because his Noah wants to end man's life on earth.
* The Bible clearly states that Noah brought 7 of the clean beasts and only 2 of the unclean beasts onto the ark. The extra beasts were obviously here for food and sacrifice to God. Noah was no vegan and his ancestors included herdsmen who also performed animal sacrifice to God.
* The Bible clearly states that Noah was a righteous man with a righteous family. He was not against all mankind, he was only against evil mankind. God was not mad at men for ruining the environment. He was mad at the evil choices they made. What evil choices did they make? Well according the Jesus in Matthew 24:37-38, the last days will be like the days of Noah. The evils of the people God destroyed with the flood are the same kind we see in society today.
Much like Noah, Bible reading families teach against the values they see in general society - promiscuity, pornography, violence against women and children, abortion, divorce. Not ever eating meat and going green are not that big a deal and are not on the short list of how to get to heaven.
Noah will not reach the potential high box office it could have reached because it is not a Biblical message that active Christians can support like The Passion of Christ. If anything, it is continued evidence that Hollywood is on a mission to tear down traditional religion and build up secularism by treating the Bible as just another fairytale.
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Aronofsky's Noah is a vegan Jason killing machine (without the hockey mask). He believes that God wants to destroy man because of his mishandling of the environment. The evil depicted in the movie is murder and people eating meat.
Gosh. I even heard that there were giant rock monsters in it.
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Ho-hum......I just hope they run Ben Hur on TV before Easter.
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I'd skip Noah and recommend God's Not Dead
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You know what?
(http://www.pyenet.co.nz/familytrees/album_jen/album_fraserisland/slides/Coyote-butt.jpg)
Coyote butt.
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You know what?
(http://www.pyenet.co.nz/familytrees/album_jen/album_fraserisland/slides/Coyote-butt.jpg)
Coyote butt.
Cya l8r...
(http://a-z-animals.com/media/animals/images/original/alligator3.jpg)
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Was there a unicorn on the Ark??
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Was there a unicorn on the Ark??
There was one of those on Moses' ark.
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Was there a unicorn on the Ark??
Yes, two, both gay.
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My neighbor (across the street) saw it and had the same reaction. I won't even bother to rent this POS.
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Thanks for the review, FiddlingAnt. Good Lord that sounds atrocious.
I am so disappointed, because my stepson, an expert rock climber/tall heights worker, helped build the ark. We were kinda proud. I'm not going to that movie, though.
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Thanks for the review, FiddlingAnt. Good Lord that sounds atrocious.
I am so disappointed, because my stepson, an expert rock climber/tall heights worker, helped build the ark. We were kinda proud. I'm not going to that movie, though.
At least the ark is built to biblical standards.
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At least the ark is built to biblical standards.
And a high standard it is !
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Plenty of cubits?
:-)
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Plenty of cubits?
:-)
Bushels of 'em!
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There is only one reason why I would see it.... :-)
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There is only one reason why I would see it.... :-)
Master and Commander is better.
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There is only one reason why I would see it.... :-)
There's better movies to get your Russell Crowe fix, Sea: Gladiator, The Quick and the Dead, L.A. Confidential, American Gangster, etc.
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There's better movies to get your Russell Crowe fix, Sea: Gladiator, The Quick and the Dead, L.A. Confidential, American Gangster, etc.
Wondering about Noah, No way he and small family could have rounded up all the creatures on what they considered earth at the time.
Then the Bible does tell of other survivors from the flood, interesting.
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Master and Commander is better.
I never read the books so maybe that was why I didn't understand why M&C got slammed so badly. As a throwback to the old swashbuckler movies of old I got a kick out of it (despite Russel Crowe whose acting is on par with his singing*).
(*Les Mis the movie was one of only 2 movies I have ever walked out on)
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Wondering about Noah, No way he and small family could have rounded up all the creatures on what they considered earth at the time.
It is assumed God sent the animals to Noah. Except the unicorns.
Seriously, scripture doesn't SAY God sent them but it is assumed that is the case, as with other OT miracles.
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It is assumed God sent the animals to Noah. Except the unicorns.
Seriously, scripture doesn't SAY God sent them but it is assumed that is the case, as with other OT miracles.
I was taught it was the original build it and they will come moment. God himself pushed the animals towards the ark.
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There is only one reason why I would see it.... :-)
Lots of things made of wood?
O-)
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I'd skip Noah and recommend God's Not Dead
God's Not Dead was a good movie. Only inaccuracy I saw in it was the Muslim dad only beat his daughter, disowned her and threw her out of his house for becoming a Christian. In reality, he wouldv'e beheaded her.
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Maybe. But that may have been a little heavy for what they were intending
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There's better movies to get your Russell Crowe fix, Sea: Gladiator, The Quick and the Dead, L.A. Confidential, American Gangster, etc.
I have seen those, however I would like to see a brilliant mind
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I have seen those, however I would like to see a brilliant mind
That was one oddball movie. I enjoyed it.
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I never read the books so maybe that was why I didn't understand why M&C got slammed so badly. As a throwback to the old swashbuckler movies of old I got a kick out of it (despite Russel Crowe whose acting is on par with his singing*).
(*Les Mis the movie was one of only 2 movies I have ever walked out on)
Believe it or not, Crowe also sings a song in the Noah movie, so if you want to up your walked-out-of movies to 3, here is you chance.
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That was one oddball movie. I enjoyed it.
Ditto.
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Saw it for the first time last night.
I wanted to like it. I could see what Aronofsky wanted to do but it seems the execution was somewhat muddled. For example...
I would have made the end a little less Lord-of-the-Rings-ish. The Watchers swatting away at the Cainites just looked out of place in a movie trying to give the story a naturalistic feel. I would have made the Watchers appear as stone, fire, water etc. to coincide with how humanity has always attributed spiritual significance to these phenomenon.
A lot of the CGI looked 2nd rate. A lot of the directing seemed as if people weren't sure about how to portray their characters; much like how the acting in a pilot of a TV series is different from how the actors portray their characters a season later.
I liked the idea of seeing animals you think you could recognize from modern creatures but were meant to show ancestral forms. It's a nod to the fact that natural selection and scripture are not mutually exclusive ideas. However, in that same light I was disappointed that Noah and his family were all lily white. Mixed race actors would have filled the roles much better.
meh
Some initial thoughts.