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Interests => Living Off of the Grid & Survivalism => Topic started by: The Village Idiot on January 07, 2010, 05:32:09 PM
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Oh crap. Things have really hit the fan. You have no place in the country, you do have a backpack and shoulder gym bag. Your going to have to walk out of the city and try to get to a friends survival "camp". What is in/on your backpack/gym bag?
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I'm assuming a couple days to a week in transit through country I know well with minimal resistance and "regular" weather.
Backpack
First Aid Supplies
British style Square Mess Kit , fork and spoon combo.
Hexamine Fuel and stove
Matches (waterproofed container)
TP
2X Light plastic sheet (they're sold as disposable drop sheets for painting for like $5 each)
Diamond Steel
Light cord (I believe this is called hutchy cord in RAR circles)
Fishing tackle box - (hooks , sinkers , 100lb leader line , spare 80lb braid)
DEET based insect repellent
Chlorine based Water purification tablets
Inline "straw" type water filter.
Super saturated salt water in dripper bottle (leech remover and food seasoning)
Gatorade powder
Soluble multivitamin (similar to Emergen C)
Barley sugar
Aluminum water bottle with cup.
Tools
Stabbing Knife (The model is called "Pig sticker")
Bowie style Knife
Thumbstud Folding knife (Some cheap ass thing I picked up for about $20)
Regular folding knife (PUMA brand)
Gerber Multitool
folding Shovel
Hatchet
Wire saw
Rifle and all available ammo.
Two piece Fishing rod and reel (Shimano T-Curve rod - Diawa Saltist reel)
Torch and headlamp (Both made by Fenix)
Whatever food I had about that was easily portable at the time.
I'd probably grab the Handheld UHF radio and GPS if I thought they'd be of any use.
Oh - Tobacco. Several packets and a pipe. Liter of 190 proof spirit if there was room remaining.
Most of this stuff isn't collected together - but is distributed about in storage so it'd take an hour or so to get it packed.
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Oh crap. Things have really hit the fan. You have no place in the country, you do have a backpack and shoulder gym bag. Your going to have to walk out of the city and try to get to a friends survival "camp". What is in/on your backpack/gym bag?
It's gonna hit -2 or something here tonight...I'm carrying a water bottle with a wide lid, so I can refill with snow and let my body heat melt it, some extremely high calorie food, and the rest of both packs would be socks and blankets. I'd be wearing most of the clothing I owned...layers of PJ pants, then jeans, then sweats...layers of undershirts, t-shirts, sweatshirts...over all my coveralls...over that, my biggest coat. I'd also be wearing a face mask knit hat, a scarf, and over that the hoods of a couple sweatshirts. I'd wear my driving gloves under my insulated ski gloves. But I'd have to buy super-insulated boots before I could head anywhere...
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Some of that sounds expensive. I bet a lot of people would have to make do with a lot less. I'd probably concentrate on food first, then making sure I had changes of clothes and socks and things. Then some sort of sleeping bag, tarp/poncho. A towel. I found a travel pack at Wal-Mart with small mouthwash, toothbrush, toothpaste, comb, deoderant, disposable razor and small can of shaving cream. Its very compact. A small first aid kit would probably be about the same size. I do have a wind-up radio but the "TV channel audio" doesn't seem to work since they all went digital but I'd take it along. I need to get some type of camp stove and small pot/pan kit to go along with it. Gatorade powder is a great idea. I need to get me one of those water filtering bottles.
I think I'd take extra beans, beef jerky and crackers. Maybe some canned SPAM if there is any at hand.
If I could get a gun, I know where a 40 cal handgun is, heh.
extra pair of shoes? My laptop, of course. heh. Might make a good shield.
A ziplock with matches, napkins, wetnaps, utensils, salt, pepper, other packets. Water "cleaning" tablets. things like that.
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Some of that sounds expensive. I bet a lot of people would have to make do with a lot less. I'd probably concentrate on food first, then making sure I had changes of clothes and socks and things. Then some sort of sleeping bag, tarp/poncho. A towel. I found a travel pack at Wal-Mart with small mouthwash, toothbrush, toothpaste, comb, deoderant, disposable razor and small can of shaving cream. Its very compact. A small first aid kit would probably be about the same size. I do have a wind-up radio but the "TV channel audio" doesn't seem to work since they all went digital but I'd take it along. I need to get some type of camp stove and small pot/pan kit to go along with it. Gatorade powder is a great idea. I need to get me one of those water filtering bottles.
I think I'd take extra beans, beef jerky and crackers. Maybe some canned SPAM if there is any at hand.
If I could get a gun, I know where a 40 cal handgun is, heh.
extra pair of shoes? My laptop, of course. heh. Might make a good shield.
A ziplock with matches, napkins, wetnaps, utensils, salt, pepper, other packets. Water "cleaning" tablets. things like that.
I've been collecting outdoor gear and equipment for about 15 years - being an avid outdoors type person. I'm just now getting to all the high end , large and or expensive bits now.
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I've been collecting outdoor gear and equipment for about 15 years - being an avid outdoors type person. I'm just now getting to all the high end , large and or expensive bits now.
I am going as cheap as possible.
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Were I somehow caught without my Filipino man servant, my pimped out Chevy, or even my house and family, I'd pack as follows.
1 Tub of KFC
1 leatherman
1 handgun
1 bag fritos
1 water purifying bottle
assorted prescription pain killers
some para cord
1 guitar string (D)
2 lighters
I'd just walk home trailing chicken bones in a pharmaceutical haze. If I needed additional food, I'd trap something using the cord and guitar string. It would take me a couple of days walking to get home from the farthest point I go to on a daily basis. Any unused dope would be used for trading purposes and the uneaten fritos can be used to help start a fire.
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With all the "stuff" y'all will be packing, you'd better be "packing"...cause someone would most likely try and take it.
I'd bring: water, food, matches, radio, gun, and the clothes on my back - (oh, and a great pair of hiking boots).
Btw, all this week on the History channel, this is the very subject. Watching has been interesting and very informative. Let's hope it never comes to this...
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Mine would contain an ample supply of power bars, a dagger type knife, a utility knife, ammo for my .45ACP and my L1A1, sleeping bag, tarp, first aid kit WITH a surgical pack, nylon line, ronsonol and flints, a fire striker, and some steel wool. My .45ACP would be in it's holster. I would also have a canteen on my utility belt, with a load bearing harness. I'd also pack on my utility belt some spare magazines for my L1A1 & my USP Tactical. Somewhere in the mess would be a gun cleaning kit. I'd take some pharmaceuticals with me, too. Something to cook in would be nice and maybe a grate to cook on. Coffee would be imperative, along with a percolator.
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the uneaten fritos can be used to help start a fire.
I remember Les Stroud doing that. A bag of Fritos could be very useful, although I am addicted to them. That could be bad.
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Off the top of my head....
my rifle, ammo, and gun cleaning kit. (hopefully by the time the SHTF, I will have more than one weapon) And the rifle doesn't go in the pack.
Wind up flashlight
socks
bar soap
toothbrush
baking soda
water purification tablets
plastic cup or two
my french press~ if I can boil water, I have coffee
one stainless pot to cook with, a saucepan, so it is light
any lighters/matches that I have, and my zippo with flints and fluid
clothes for any condition: Not a party, but a selection for weather conditions.
My work boots.
My runner up work boots
beans
coffee
leatherman
towels?
canteen and camping dinner set~ plate, bowl, cutlery, and mug
any and all pharmaceuticals and vitamins in my medicine cabinet
dental floss
cotton balls
any candles I have in my house.
batteries, even if I don't have anything that needs em, good for barter.
and as many army blankets that I can stuff in my bag.
Oh yeah, and my rum.
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Oh crap. Things have really hit the fan. You have no place in the country, you do have a backpack and shoulder gym bag. Your going to have to walk out of the city and try to get to a friends survival "camp". What is in/on your backpack/gym bag?
Someone else is watching Armageddon Week on the History chanel too. Like maybe After Armageddon on Tuesday? :-)
I'd take water. Lots of it. High carb foods like bread, peanut butter, etc. MREs. A 9 volt battery with steel wool. A lighter. K-Bar. A gun with plenty of ammo. Underwear. Socks. Compass. Protein bars.
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Off the top of my head....
Well thats a load off your head. Not too heavy it seems to me, compared to others. heh.
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Well thats a load off your head. Not too heavy it seems to me, compared to others. heh.
Hardee har har. :whatever:
I was trying to answer, given what I know what I have right now. Kinda like a timed essay.
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Here is my "minimalist" list.
Backpack:
Flashlight
Extra batteries
Camp stove
Fire fuel cubes
Pan/pot/cup/bowl/utensils
Dry beans
Beef Jerky
Can of SPAM
Crackers
Frito’s
Powdered Gatorade/lemonade
Oatmeal packs
Hard candy
Energy bars/granola bars
Tea bags/other
Salt/pepper/sugar etc
Moist towel packages
Emergency thermal blanket package
Rope saw
Folding hatchet
Fishing line/lures/hooks
Bowie knife
First aid kit
Vitamin tablets
Chap Stick
Hand lotion
Portable crank-power radio
Compass/map
Canteen (2)
Water purifier
Water purification tablets
Extra socks, gloves, underwear, t-shirt, change of clothes
Roll of quarters
Aluminum foil
Nylon cord
Rolled tarp/plastic sheet
Rolled foam mat
Sleeping bag
Magnifying glass
Binoculars
Disposable Digital camera?
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Lose the flashlight and batteries. Buy lil' candles.
Ditch the stove unless it's a Dragonfly single burner.
Beans are heavy, try a dozen ramen noodle packages and/or mac and cheese.
Spam is heavy. Buy more dried meat and fruit.
Keep the fritos as they are pretty much the best fish bait on the planet. (really, what can't fritos do?)
Hard candy is awesome
Pack some corn meal, it's handy with fish. So is cooking oil.
Ditch the moist towels and buy a bar of soap and a washcloth.
Ditch the hatchet, keep the pig sticker.
Cameras are light, so are little notebooks and some pens.
Monoculars are lighter and cheaper than binoculars.
And where the Hell is your Bible?
Oh, and about 20 books of matches and at least two lighters. Even after the lighter runs out of fluid, you can still use the flint inside for making more fire.
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Beans are heavy, try a dozen ramen noodle packages and/or mac and cheese.
Spam is heavy. Buy more dried meat and fruit.
Keep the fritos as they are pretty much the best fish bait on the planet. (really, what can't fritos do?)
Hard candy is awesome
Monocular are lighter and cheaper than binoculars.
Where the Hell is your Bible?
Good suggestions and yes, I should add a Bible to the list. :thatsright:
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Oh, and about 20 books of matches and at least two lighters. Even after the lighter run out of fluid, you can still use the flint inside for making more fire.
The refills you get for Zippoâ„¢ brand lighters are tiny and contain several flints in a convenient little plastic case.
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This is actually the easiest scenario for me because I've done this. A lot. When I was younger and of less dubious character, my friends and I would try to outdo each other and see who could stay out the longest with the least amount of stuff. And no, I never even came close to winning.
But fritos emerged as the clear winner when it came down to weight vs energy, durability, multi use capability and flammability. Don't buy expensive "camping food" when you can find most dried and prepacked dinners right down the grocery isle. They're invariably lighter and cheaper. Buy a Swiss Army knife. Make sure it has tweezers, toothpick, scissors, and magnifying glass. Two metal cups. One for drinking, one for cooking cornbread or soup in. Plates are invaluable for fish, but the cup is the camp king. Make sure one of yours is a wide, shallow "sierra cup".
B.C. powder over Advil, but whatever is handy. No...B.C. powder for the win. You really will need some. Boiling water will eliminate the need for filters and pumps. Straining the boiled water though a handkerchief full of charcoal will sweeten the water right back up. So have a big plastic lightweight mug too. The ones with screw top lids get dirty and will make you sick after a while if you're not careful.
Peanut butter kicks ass. It's heavy, but it disappears pretty quick. A loaf of sammich bread does too. A paperback book about woodcraft is handy. ( It makes it a lot easier to find wild onions and roots.)Those lil' black thin soled Chinese slippers work great around camp and cost about a buck a pair. Guitar strings are lightweight and handy. Small crimp clamps are cheap and light and easy to use the leatherman with. You can make a bow out of green wood that will last about a day. Long enough to shoot any rabbits that come sniffing around the frito bait.
But if you can fish and have corn meal and some oil, you can last a surprisingly long time.
Blisters are inevitable, buy blister patches.
Coleman and others make cheap sturdy light up watches if you really need to poke around at night. My nephew has a ball cap with tiny lights built in the brim. I think it was six bucks. But cold will kill batteries.
Foot powder, or baby powder or gold bond, just get some.
Make a chess set.
Everything gets hung up in a tree at night.
Sugar packets, salt, pepper, jams, hot sauces and crackers from restaurants is also the way to go.
Don't forget the toothbrush or extra boot laces. Or hat. You being a Texan most likely already have a nice broad brimmed one. I'm stuck with a Top hat for a while myself, but hope to someday graduate up to one of those Sherlock Holmes dealies...maybe a big fur Shako like those guys in London wear.
Throw some of those office clamps and paper clips in the backpack and some Silly Putty too. (No more spilled mugs balancing on rocks. Stick it on the putty.)
And so on. It's a near endless list of tips and tricks. Just go out and practice making camp somewhere so when you finally bug out, it's routine.
Ah, and zippos are expensive, can leak and have fiddly bits. Advanced survivalists only.
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Boiling water will eliminate the need for filters and pumps. Straining the boiled water though a handkerchief full of charcoal will sweeten the water right back up. So have a big plastic lightweight mug too. The ones with screw top lids get dirty and will make you sick after a while if you're not careful.
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Actually you should use caution doing that. Boiling will kill most bacteriological hazards - and remove immiscible chemicals with a BP lower than water.
It won't actually remove any contamination - especially things like turbidity, radiological hazards , many common chemicals and so on.
Ideally the best method is distillation then post chlorinated to ensure nothing will grow in there. Even then you should really use semi-fractional distillation methods like a refluxing still run vented until it's at boiling point.
As for filtration - Sand filters and low porosity carbon filters are readily constructable in the field with som,e very basic materials.
After filtration to remove turbidity and whatever else it can take out - boil it. Still not as good as distillation but can actually be easily acomplished in the field.
You can also restore some of the "fresh" taste after boiling by pouring the water between two containers for a time (aerates it ).
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I notice allot of you don't have a water filter? I suggest you get one. I have had quite a few and now settled down on the MSR waterworks. They are reliable and easy to clean and maintain. I have 2 a mini and full size and a rebuild kit. They are without a doubt the most important item in any survival pack. Did you ever try to drink water with those clorine tabs in it? :puke:
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I notice allot of you don't have a water filter? I suggest you get one. I have had quite a few and now settled down on the MSR waterworks. They are reliable and easy to clean and maintain. I have 2 a mini and full size and a rebuild kit. They are without a doubt the most important item in any survival pack. Did you ever try to drink water with those clorine tabs in it? :puke:
Yes. Gotta let it sit for a bit after you thoroughly aerate it to make it even slightly palatable.
I can do without the water filter if I'm on foot. The rain forest creeks are perfectly drinkable in any area I'm likely to be operating in without more sophisticated systems.
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My bug-out backpack is also my hunting backpack - I bow hunt, when I can - and thus is always loaded with bug-out goodness. A water filter and a couple of 1 gallon water bladders, MREs, one change of clothing, a bivvy-shelter, and a first-aid kit leaning deeper into treating field traumas, and away from treating "boo-boos". I have a pouch full of tools on that pack for repairing my bow with, including a full replacement string and a small bow press.
In addition, right next to my pack is a loaded LB harnass. It has two pouches, each loaded with 4 full mags for the MAK-90; binoculars; and a 2-quart canteen. In a SHTF situation, it would get bungeed onto the backpack with the bow, I'd sling the rifle (and have the pistol riding innocently on my hip), and move out, either on foot or in the truck. My wife would have the shotgun for encounters with critters (2- or 4-legged variety) that managed to get past me and the rifle.
I also have pouches on my belt (the one keeping my britches from sliding off and dragging about my ankles) holding my leatherman, a folding knife and a flint and steel firestarting kit.
Finally, each member of my family has a smaller, lighter backpack, containing a change of clothes, a 1-quart canteen, and some MREs. Oh, and my wife has the TP roll.
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I notice allot of you don't have a water filter? I suggest you get one. I have had quite a few and now settled down on the MSR waterworks. They are reliable and easy to clean and maintain. I have 2 a mini and full size and a rebuild kit. They are without a doubt the most important item in any survival pack. Did you ever try to drink water with those clorine tabs in it? :puke:
Thats what the Gatorade or Country Time lemon ade powder is for.
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Sounds like your already prepped. Might need more TP, though. :naughty:
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Yes. Gotta let it sit for a bit after you thoroughly aerate it to make it even slightly palatable.
I can do without the water filter if I'm on foot. The rain forest creeks are perfectly drinkable in any area I'm likely to be operating in without more sophisticated systems.
All we need is a few months worth of dried food, arms and lots of ammo, a small Hibachi to burn whatever to hear up water or food.
Try and stay the heck at home. Those that bug out are not going to make it, those that stay put with just a small amount of planning have the best chance.
With a Nuke station down the road I have read the insane instructions on evacuation in case of a big problem. On one page people are told to wait on a street corner as buses will collect them and take them to a safe place. :rotf: Who is going to be driving these buses.?? Not me folks, I will be at home sitting on my roof drinking a beer and watching the mayham take place on the highway' Can anyone even imagine what our roads will be like.?
If I bug out I will die in the woods from something, no shelter, bad water, rabid animals, few of us have any idea how to live without a well controlled society that only excepts those that can benefit the comunity as a whole.
Worse comes to worse those that stock pile items from the dollar store to trade, cast iron cook where, those small Swiss Army knives that go for a buck apiece and could be worth a days worth of food to some one else ------Cosmetics is a biggie, men with something to trade to keep their woman's mouth shut may be willing to deliver 2 cords of cut wood for $20.00 worth of lipstick.
Only time one should leave an area would be for a fire storm, still after the incident one still goes back to find what they can of their life that did not burn.
Never really thought about this in the world of reality, lots of fun to think about how things can become. Going back to an era our grandparents did not live in.
It was just today I came across an old calender that the NUKE plant sent out a couple years ago and when I got to the evacuation plans began to laugh.
Nuts, this idea of bugging out is a recipe for disaster. If one is fortunate and their home is semi-intact, stay there. If the whole thing is blown away then is the time to become a scavenger, looter and savage.
What fun to think of planting a garden----untill you have to work the ground and actually do it. What fun to think about having a milk cow until you have to milk the sucker twice a day, making butter etc. is more work then swabbing 6 floors of office space.
Washing clothing in big iron pots of boiling water with a wash board scrubber with Lye soap is unacceptable, better a rock in the river.
Stay in a safe place should the SHIF. take much time to decide where you can survive best. If after 60-90 days things remain the same or get worse, then is the time to decide where you wish to die, at home or in a strange place.
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Lose the flashlight and batteries. Buy lil' candles.
Ditch the stove unless it's a Dragonfly single burner.
Beans are heavy, try a dozen ramen noodle packages and/or mac and cheese.
Spam is heavy. Buy more dried meat and fruit.
Keep the fritos as they are pretty much the best fish bait on the planet. (really, what can't fritos do?)
Hard candy is awesome
Pack some corn meal, it's handy with fish. So is cooking oil.
Ditch the moist towels and buy a bar of soap and a washcloth.
Ditch the hatchet, keep the pig sticker.
Cameras are light, so are little notebooks and some pens.
Monoculars are lighter and cheaper than binoculars.
And where the Hell is your Bible?
Oh, and about 20 books of matches and at least two lighters. Even after the lighter run out of fluid, you can still use the flint inside for making more fire.
Forget the ramen noodles. They have ZERO nutritional value. They might give some carbs, but that's a grasp. At best, they MIGHT make a turd. There's plenty of food in the fields, woods and streams.
I did forget to mention, I'd also pack up a fishing pole or at least some line and hooks at a minimum. (One can always make their own poles, especially here in North Texas/ Southern OK.)
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One thing that might be handy is one of those two wheeled things that folks sometimes use to move killed deer out of the fields. While they would restrict one away from rough terrain, that cart could come in handy for hauling extra goods.
(http://www.bowhunterssupplystore.com/media/Ameristep/Non-typical-deer-cart.jpg)
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One thing that might be handy is one of those two wheeled things that folks sometimes use to move killed deer out of the fields. While they would restrict one away from rough terrain, that cart could come in handy for hauling extra goods.
(http://www.bowhunterssupplystore.com/media/Ameristep/Non-typical-deer-cart.jpg)
I wonder if you could hitch that to a backpack and let it "follow" you.
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I wonder if you could hitch that to a backpack and let it "follow" you.
I don't see why not. In my case, something like that would make life a LOT better as I don't walk very well. I'm sure that some sort of harness could be simply fashioned so it would "tow" easily.
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I don't see why not. In my case, something like that would make life a LOT better as I don't walk very well. I'm sure that some sort of harness could be simply fashioned so it would "tow" easily.
Tents are so last century.... these also come in blue.
(http://www.igreenspot.com/wp-content/uploads/igloo-satellite-cabin3.jpg)
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Tents are so last century.... these also come in blue.
Just what I want, something to make me stick out like a sore thumb!! ::)
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Just what I want, something to make me stick out like a sore thumb!! ::)
Thats because if you want a rescue plane to see it... anyways, I am sure you could always spraypaint it camo
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I guess I'm the only one who would find extra socks, whiskey, and tampax indispensable.
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I guess I'm the only one who would find extra socks, whiskey, and tampax indispensable.
:lmao: Oops, I forgot about packing one of your mentioned items - yes, indispensable for sure!
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If I go ONLY by things in the house (no fair cheating, after all):
--.45 with extra clips and 100 rounds ammo
--12-gauge with all the 00-buck I can reasonably carry (50 rounds) and maybe 1 box of #4 shot
--Hunting knife--has a couple of hooks, fishing line, and waterproof matches in handle.
--Magnesium bar, 9-volt, and steel wool for fire starting.
--Wrist-GPS. They can last up to 24 hours continuous use on a single charge.
--10-12 MRE's.
--WATER and a wide-mouth METAL container.
--Water filter.
--Shelter half and thickest sleeping bag.
--Snowshoes.
--Small first-aid kit and 2-3 weeks worth of any necessary meds.
--Extra waterproof matches.
--Extra socks.
--ONE change of clothes.
--Extra water-resistant gloves.
--Battery-powered radio, and cell phone, just in case it starts working again.
--E-tool. Nothing like needing to shovel out something and having to use your friggin hands.
Pack it all up, and GTFO of Dodge.
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I guess I'm the only one who would find extra socks, whiskey, and tampax indispensable.
I said socks and rum. :-) And thank you for the reminder. Things coulda taken a bad turn.
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An e-tool can also be used as an axe or a weapon. A handy thing to have.
You have a .45 that uses "clips" ??? [/anal gun owner]
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Oh, Jesushtapdancinchrist.
MAGAZINES. Pardon the hell outta me!
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I guess I'm the only one who would find extra socks, whiskey, and tampax indispensable.
Actually, my survival kit contains about 2 dozen maxipads. Not only are they useable for any females in my party, they make excellent emergency field dressings. I always try to get as many "dual use" items as I can.
I have quite a large Survival Kit, that I have built up and maintained for over 20 years. And it has come in handy in several real-life situations, like the Northridge Earthquake, and hurricanes Ivan and Katrina.
First, it is all contained in 2 framed ALICE military packs, a civilian daypack, and an ACU CamelBak BFM (http://www.camelbak.com/en/government-military/hydration-packs/bfm.aspx). One of the ALICE packs is a large for my use, and the other is a medium for my wife. Listed are just some of the items I can remember:
3 day supply MREs per person
Tent
Military Poncho (2)
Poncho Liner (2)
1 gallon canteens per person (2 1 quart, 1 2 quart)
Wife has a 2 litre CamelBak, I have a 3 litre, a 2 litre, and 2 1 litre CamelBak bottles
Water Purification Tablets
Military CLS bag (2)
Sleeping Bags (2)
Hand axe-hammer-pry bar
Mini MagLight (2)
Matches, lighters, and Zippo (at least one of each per pack)
Leatherman
Battery powered lantern with AM-FM radio
Hand held FM 2-way radios
Solar battery charger
Spare NICAD batteries
Military E-tool (shovel)
Compass
Maps (National, regional, state)
Hand Held GPS
Heat tabs and stove
Military mess kit (and silverware for 2 people)
Pocket Fisherman
Motrin, Aspirin, Kaopectate, Malox, and Bactine
$100 in cash
Pad of water-proof paper and pens
The day pack has a change of clothes and boots, and sweaters and light jacket.
The larger pack also has military wet weather gear, and a few more odds and ends I can't remember. They are all kept at all times in the trunk of our vehicles. After all, these will do no good if we are stuck without them 50 miles from home. And when we take road trips, they go with us along with an even more complete kit in a large footlocker (which has things like a tool kit, tire chains, jumper cables, jump box-air compressor, tire repair kit, cases of MREs, tow strap, flares, tarp, coveralls, and 2 bodybags). I also have a CB radio in a metal case that I move to the vehicle we are in if we take a long trip (http://www.roadtrucker.com/slip-seat-road-case/k40-large-cb-stereo-metal-roadcase-speakers-roadcase.htm).
Each vehicle also has at least 1 case of water that is rotated monthly. My survival piece is a .380 pistol with 100 rounds and spare clips that is kept in a FannyPack holster. Of course my survival clothes are an old set of ACUs.
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and the kids wake up at 5AM to exercise and run 5 miles before breakfast
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Kind of concerned about Aaron Burr.
He hasn't posted since Feb 1
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and the kids wake up at 5AM to exercise and run 5 miles before breakfast
No, that's just me. :whatever:
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No, that's just me. :whatever:
heh
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Kind of concerned about Aaron Burr.
He hasn't posted since Feb 1
I was wondering about him too.
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Actually, my survival kit contains about 2 dozen maxipads. Not only are they useable for any females in my party, they make excellent emergency field dressings. I always try to get as many "dual use" items as I can.
I have quite a large Survival Kit, that I have built up and maintained for over 20 years. And it has come in handy in several real-life situations, like the Northridge Earthquake, and hurricanes Ivan and Katrina.
First, it is all contained in 2 framed ALICE military packs, a civilian daypack, and an ACU CamelBak BFM (http://www.camelbak.com/en/government-military/hydration-packs/bfm.aspx). One of the ALICE packs is a large for my use, and the other is a medium for my wife. Listed are just some of the items I can remember:
3 day supply MREs per person
Tent
Military Poncho (2)
Poncho Liner (2)
1 gallon canteens per person (2 1 quart, 1 2 quart)
Wife has a 2 litre CamelBak, I have a 3 litre, a 2 litre, and 2 1 litre CamelBak bottles
Water Purification Tablets
Military CLS bag (2)
Sleeping Bags (2)
Hand axe-hammer-pry bar
Mini MagLight (2)
Matches, lighters, and Zippo (at least one of each per pack)
Leatherman
Battery powered lantern with AM-FM radio
Hand held FM 2-way radios
Solar battery charger
Spare NICAD batteries
Military E-tool (shovel)
Compass
Maps (National, regional, state)
Hand Held GPS
Heat tabs and stove
Military mess kit (and silverware for 2 people)
Pocket Fisherman
Motrin, Aspirin, Kaopectate, Malox, and Bactine
$100 in cash
Pad of water-proof paper and pens
The day pack has a change of clothes and boots, and sweaters and light jacket.
The larger pack also has military wet weather gear, and a few more odds and ends I can't remember. They are all kept at all times in the trunk of our vehicles. After all, these will do no good if we are stuck without them 50 miles from home. And when we take road trips, they go with us along with an even more complete kit in a large footlocker (which has things like a tool kit, tire chains, jumper cables, jump box-air compressor, tire repair kit, cases of MREs, tow strap, flares, tarp, coveralls, and 2 bodybags). I also have a CB radio in a metal case that I move to the vehicle we are in if we take a long trip (http://www.roadtrucker.com/slip-seat-road-case/k40-large-cb-stereo-metal-roadcase-speakers-roadcase.htm).
Each vehicle also has at least 1 case of water that is rotated monthly. My survival piece is a .380 pistol with 100 rounds and spare clips that is kept in a FannyPack holster. Of course my survival clothes are an old set of ACUs.
Well, as long as you are prepared...
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May I suggest you add some rope and strong twine to the collection.
I also would add a bag of wide and long cable ties.
Both are cheap and easy to obtain - and a right pain in the ass not to have when you discover a use for them.
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I suppose it's cheating, but I keep such a backpack loaded up. It's about 35 pounds of stuff, including:
First aid kit, with hygeine supplies like backpacker TP, also pills to clean you out, stop you up, treat pain, and fight inflammation
2 canteens and a canteen cup
cooking supplies - metal pot, pan, and plate, plus a 16-oz bottle of shortening
Food - enough to go 72 hours of dried/foil-pouch stuff I replace yearly, but also salt and pepper
Poncho and liner, also a space blanket (the larger type, not the mylar-film pocket-sized one)
Tools - a can opener (No cans, but you never know what you might find or be able to take in the event), saw, backup folding knife, fork and spoon, machete, multi-tool, 550 cord, snare wire, a couple of dozen assorted nails, a lightweight backpacking e-tool, etc.
100 rounds of CCI high velocity hollowpoint .22s and a minimal flexrod cleaning kit
Water purification and fire/firestarting stuff including a couple of packets of solid fuel tabs and a couple of candles
Some basic fishing supplies including a gig head, also a net hammock that can double as a plain old net
Watchcap and leather work gloves, one extra set of socks and briefs
Some signalling stuff in case I want to be found - a couple of cyalumes, signal mirror, whistle, flares, pair of small hunting binos, small LED flashlight, you know.
Compass on the outside and a backup stowed, also a pin-on thermometer.
A very lightweight .22 that breaks down and is stowed in a soft case that gets strapped on last.
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First Aid Kit- Basic store bought kit (bandages, gauze, tape, things like that). Add a couple bottles of Immodium and Ranger Candy Light (400 mg Motrin, since I can’t get the real stuff) plus TP, unrolled and folded into a plastic bag. Bottle of liquid soap and deodorant.
Weapons- Rifle (trying to decide between a CETME or AK variant of some kind) with 6-8 loaded mags and 200 extra rounds. Kimber .45 with 3 loaded mags and 100 extra rounds. Pocket knife and hunting knife. Cleaning kit.
Tool kit- Multi-tool, compass, waterproof matches, magnesium bar with flint and steel, water filter, Esbit stove with several boxes of tabs, dynamo flashlight, candles, e tool, couple hundred feet of 550 cord, duct tape. Fishing line and hooks. Wire saw.
Food- 3 days worth of freeze dried plus a couple handfuls of energy bars. Canteen and cup plus Camelback. Brit style flat mess kit with utensils.
Clothes- 3 days change of underwear and wool socks. 1 extra pair BDU pants and coat. 1 extra pair boots. Poncho, longjohns, knit cap, gloves, wool blanket, winter coat and tarp. Needle and thread, both cotton and nylon so I can sew up minor wounds.
Other- Couple of books, whistle and mirror (glad I kept them from the Coast Guard), pipe and as much tobacco as I can shove in. Bottle of rum for morale and painkiller.
Plus I'd be wearing a pair of BDUs, sturdy boots and socks, sunglasses, boonie cap (I burn like a mofo), and watch. Figure I can trade that when it dies.
Basically, the plan is to get as far from civilization as possible and find a good place to hunker down and set up a base camp to store everything. Then, if I have to forage, just take what I need and stash the rest.
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What about a dynamo radio?
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What about a dynamo radio?
Thought about that, but if things get that bad, I'm not sure how much use it would be. Might be one of those "if I have it and can fit it, I'll take it" things.
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Thought about that, but if things get that bad, I'm not sure how much use it would be. Might be one of those "if I have it and can fit it, I'll take it" things.
do they make dynamo walkie talkies?
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What about a dynamo radio?
I have sold those before, and they are about as usefull in real life as a "shake flashlight". Crank and crank for 30 minutes to get 5 minutes of battery life.
My choice is my Zune. It has an FM radio built in, and I also have a small AM-FM-Short Wave I keep in my pack. I also have a Solio solar charger that I use for battery charging.
http://store.solio.com/Solio-Magnesium-Edition
My buddy made me a simple USB-to-battery charger to replenish AA and C cell batteries from the charger. But it also charges everything else from my cell phone to the AA and C cells in my flashlights.
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My buddy made me a simple USB-to-battery charger to replenish AA and C cell batteries from the charger. But it also charges everything else from my cell phone to the AA and C cells in my flashlights.
It will charge the Zune?
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It will charge the Zune?
One of the adaptors is to a USB. I just plug the Zune cord into it. It worked great when I was in Yuma a year and a half ago.
And one of the things I love about my Zune is the built-in radio. I use it every day to listen to AFN.
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One of the adaptors is to a USB. I just plug the Zune cord into it. It worked great when I was in Yuma a year and a half ago.
And one of the things I love about my Zune is the built-in radio. I use it every day to listen to AFN.
AFN has an FM station out there?
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AFN has an FM station out there?
We have 2 of them actually. One is a JackFM, the other varies between hiphop and top-40. We also have a few others.
Of course, I only listen to the JackFM one myself.
http://radiostationworld.com/Locations/Qatar/radio_websites.asp
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One thing that might be handy is one of those two wheeled things that folks sometimes use to move killed deer out of the fields. While they would restrict one away from rough terrain, that cart could come in handy for hauling extra goods.
(http://www.bowhunterssupplystore.com/media/Ameristep/Non-typical-deer-cart.jpg)
Thor that's covered,we have one.
My pack:
sm. hygiene kit
sm.first aid kit
sm.sewing kit
sm.surgical kit
sm.fishing kit
1mess kit
small bag of iodine/potassium &strontium citrate tabs
1-2oz bottle grapefruit seed extract
1-2oz bottle oregano oil extract
2 vials rhus tox 30c,2 vials ledum 30c,2vials apis30c
My pocket bible
2pkg.oregano seeds
2pkg. peppermint seeds
2pkg.squash and kale
1bottle with filter and water tabs
2-canteens with cup
water proof matches and pkg. birthday candles that don't go out
shake flashlight
compass
lock pick
doz. emerg-c
nylon cording
1white rag 1 brown rag
flint rock and steel wool
couple of protein bars,couple of MRE's
1-sm. tarp and solar blanket
1-poncho
1med weight jacket
1-extra pr. of socks
1-pr. knit pants
2-pkg. smokes for barter
What I'm wearing,pants t-shirt,lg. sleeve shirt,socks, and boots
1-9mm and ammo.1-boot knife,1utility knife with wire saw
And 1- Large Thor.
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And 1- Large Thor.
lol
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lol
What you said! HAHA!
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My hunting pack consists of...
120ft of Parachute Cord
Hand Saw
Two Multi-Tools
Fire Starter
Compass
Large skinning knife
.308 Rifle
20 Gauge Shot Gun
Adequate ammo for both
Compound Bow with 6 arrows, 4 broadheads.
I have several pairs of thermals, 6 pairs of wool socks, three gortex jackets, 2 gortex pants, 3 pairs of gortex boots, and jacket liners for two gortex jackets.
Only thing that is really missing is first aid items. I've got the knowledge, just need the kit.
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Even though it sounds like it's just for hunting day trips, you really might want to think seriously about adding a first aid kit to that.
My own bug-out bags are based on digging a hole and pulling it in after me for 72 hours. Philosophies differ.
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Off the top of my head, this is the first thing I can thing of for my BOB:
A handgun with extra magazines
A good thermal blanket
Lots of clean socks
Gloves, scarf, and a ski cap. don't dismiss a good scarf for keeping warm.
MRI's. Food and lots of it.
LED flashlight and extra batteries
Flints/matches/cotton... things to start a fire with.
And as a last-minute addition, a couple scratched CDs for mirrors, but a first-aid kit is a really good idea.
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Depends on how soon I get this Camelbak "Motherlode" ruck I've got my eye on.
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$150? Holy crap.
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I've heard wool is good for keeping warm. I don't make a habit of wearing wet clothes but I've heard (from the English mostly) that wool will keep you warm after it gets wet, unlike cotton.
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$150? Holy crap.
Yeah, I know. I plan on hitting some hikes this next spring and summer where I'll need that space and water containment, though.
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If I'm planning on spending the day at the junkyard, I'll freeze a gallon jug of water and bring it with me. By the time I get thirsty, it's usually ready to drink. Plastic jugs don't handle many freeze-thaw cycles well, though.
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I've heard wool is good for keeping warm. I don't make a habit of wearing wet clothes but I've heard (from the English mostly) that wool will keep you warm after it gets wet, unlike cotton.
I have some Cabela's wool socks I've worn while hunting and cracked into frozen creeks with. They did keep my foot somewhat warmer than cotton socks would have with the amount of water that got into the boot.
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Depends on how soon I get this Camelbak "Motherlode" ruck I've got my eye on.
I got a CamelBak ST-5 "Law enforcement" pack for an overnight on-foot hunting gear pack. They're great. Pockets and attachments everywhere.
I've heard wool is good for keeping warm. I don't make a habit of wearing wet clothes but I've heard (from the English mostly) that wool will keep you warm after it gets wet, unlike cotton.
Wool is great for warmth. Beats the hell out of cotton and most poly or cotton blends. Not that warmth is really much of an issue in my pert of the globe.
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Some sort of sutures/surgical instrument procurement is in the works also.
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Some sort of sutures/surgical instrument procurement is in the works also.
Let me know what you find. I need some of that stuff.
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Let me know what you find. I need some of that stuff.
Suture kits are available from any decent medical supply place - or ask your doctor if they can supply one.
I've used braid fishing line and a fishhook to sew up a dog once or twice and routinely use contact cement on myself for small holes. Wouldn't recommend either as a long term or major repair solution.
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Suture kits are available from any decent medical supply place - or ask your doctor if they can supply one.
I've used braid fishing line and a fishhook to sew up a dog once or twice and routinely use contact cement on myself for small holes. Wouldn't recommend either as a long term or major repair solution.
I've sewn myself up with nylon filament sewing thread and a small curved needle. I've also used super glue for cuts that are a little more than minor.
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Let me know what you find. I need some of that stuff.
Picked up one of these recently:
http://www.voodootactical.net/p-664-voodoo-tactical-fully-loaded-stomp-bag-medical-backpack.aspx